eastcoastcougFor an "old timer" you certainly haven't
been paying much attention to BYU basketball lately - BYU has won at least one
game in 3 of their last 4 NCAA appearances (which, by definition, is
"advancing"), plus they "advanced" all the way to the NIT
semi-finals in Madison Square Garden last season.
"Wondering how BYU got 31 NCAA losses in just 28 appearances. Has the
tournament not always been one and done?"The NCAA used to play a
game to determine the 3rd and 4th place teams in each region.
Utah lost to Oregon 68-70 in OT at home with a completely healthy team.With Collinsworth, BYU lost a narrow 100-96 overtime game on the road that the
Cougars lead for the majority of the game.If Collinsworth
hadn't been injured, it's quite obvious that BYU would have been much
more competitive vs. the Ducks on a neutral site.Bottom line:The NCAA Selection Committee (the only group that matters) considered
BYU worthy of a 10th seed in the Big Dance.Utah wasn't even
It is sad about Kyle's loss. He is the only BYU player who has the overall
talent to play on a top 20 program.
Wondering how BYU got 31 NCAA losses in just 28 appearances. Has the tournament
not always been one and done?
Nice entertaining season. Next year should be fun. Thanks Dave and team. In
sports, sometimes things go your way, sometimes they don't. Lots of
positive memories for the season. Go Cougar volleyball!!!
Both sides be happy with what you have. You will not go far with what you have.
Both schools have good players just not great players. Neither team has 3 point
threats and without future NBA stars you need shooting. Neither team has NBA
stars or shooting. BYU plays no defense at least Utah tries.Both
sides are saying wait until next year, but without some major changes it will
not be much better.
KenUtah played 2 games against WCC teams this yearAverage score: 69.5 points85 > 69.5Here's
another observation...Kyle was injured and out for the seasonBYU's tournament bid was on the bubble. An invitation could have gone
either way.BYU had lost to Oregon in overtime previously.Without
Kyle a loss was very possible.I don't recall a single hyped up
comment stating a BYU run in the tournament.There were no disparaging
remarks made against Oregon by any fans.Utah had the weakest
preseason schedule.St Martins, Evergreen St, UC Davis, Grand Canyon,
Lamar, Savannah St., etc.Utes had a miserable road record.Utes
scored 13 points against Arizona in the first half, ended with 39Several
Ute fans associate the terms 'high school gym', 'church
league' as synonymous with the WCCSeveral Ute fans thought their team
could end up in Madison Square GardenSeveral Ute fans predicted the St.
Mary's game was won before it played and by half time as well.Somehow a BYU loss to Oregon just does not hurt nor does it sound as bad as
the Utes losing to a #4 WCC St. Mary's team in your crimson bubble world.
I agree with 79Ute - both Utah and BYU were awful this year.I'm
an old-timer....BYU fans always think we "belong" in post season play
(football and basketball) and we always get our behind kicked. We've
advanced, what, 3 times in the NCAA's in the past 50 years??I'm not sure why none of this ever lands on Coach Rose. He just has not
prepped our guys to play vs. quality competition. Our guys always play flat and
uninspired. No killer instinct. No stepping it up a notch. Do these kids even
watch March Madness? I'm tired of hearing all the excuses.
@Chris B and Ken - And how did Utah fare in the Mighty NIT against an inferior
WCC team???Oh wait thats right they gave the game away and the refs
were against them. They didn't take the game seriously because they are
sooo much better. How is the Pac 12 fareing in the Tourney oh thats
right only one win and how about Colorado. Boy they sure showed how powerful
the Pac 12 is.Just saying tough loss to be without a great player
like Kyle. Hope he is back to 100% next year.
Losing to a higher ceded team hardly "proves' that you dont belong in
the tournament. It looks like Fowlers description of some commentators judgement
can apply to other people as well. There were frustrations in
BYU' season but overall they had very positive year. Looking forward to
even better times in the years to come.
byu played 4 games against pac 12 teamsAverage score:Pac
12 93byu 85
Can we all please agree that the facts demonstrate unequivocally that neither
BYU nor Utah was very good this year and quit trying to establish who was
better? Neither was good - period. Let's all get behind
Harvard and North Dakota State!
Some criticized BYU’s selection as a No. 10 seed. Shelby Mast of USA Today
said BYU was in but not at 10. Ditto for bracketologist Joe Lunardi. Doug
Gottlieb of CBS said the Cougars shouldn’t be in at all, and BYUtv’s
Blaine Fowler called him an idiot for saying so. NCAA selection committee
chairman Ron Wellman said the Cougars “were comfortably” in even
with star Kyle Collinsworth injured.Note des news, that
"naughty" word "idiot" above is a quote from your article. Well, byu sure proved them right!
Tough shoes to fill for sure. Anyone that says otherwise is delusional.