RE: MyPerspective"What in the world are you talking about? Go
look at the recruiting services and take note of all the teams that already have
commitments. What it Mendenhall doing that is so special?"I went
ahead and looked it up for you... Here is a list of all the 2015 commits to
PAC12 teams so far (I know PAC12 affiliation is the most important thing for you
which is why I chose that conference for the sample).AZ - 1
commitment (3 star)ASU - 2 commitments (both 3 star)CU - 1
commitment (3 star)Oregon - 1 commitment (3 star)OSU - 1 commitment
(NR)Stanford - 2 commitments (both 4 stars)UCLA - 5 commitments (two
5 star, one 4, two 3)USC - 3 commitments (one 5, one 4, one 3)Utah -
4 commitments (all NR)UW - 2 commitments (one 4, one 3)WSU - 1
commitment (4 star)BYU - 4 commitments (one 4, three 3)And thus we see that only one team in the conference has more early
commitments than BYU. AND as Cougsndawgs mentioned this is a down year for
early commitments (although the four that we have look pretty solid).
Mangum will not be coming to BYU. The direction of the coaching is not back to
the passing attack of the past but to three yards and a cloud of dust made
famous at Nebraska. If you like dust, be my guest. I buy tickets to watch a
wide open passing attack. With the dearth of decent games and this new
announcement, the school just bought back my tickets. Doesn't interest me
WR:His arm looked pretty good in the video. Yes some mechanics need to be
honed but that's not unusual for a young player. His speed and athleticism
jump out as you watch him though so I think his upside can't be ignored.
I hope I am wrong, but he sounds a lot like another quarterback that can run
but can't throw. We know by now this does not work, but it looks like
we'll going that way.
Really convenient, the kid's future has already been decided by
"stars" and trolls. He won't even have to play college ball. I
wonder what the star count is between Mercer and Duke.
MP:Go look at the 3 star recruits on the scouting/recruiting sites. Many
of them have interest from various schools but very few have actual scholarship
offers at this point. 2015 is actually a low number of offers for Bronco from
what he typically has. He usually has more commitments by now so this year may
be an anomaly in that regard. The point is most 3 star players don't have a
lot of scholarship offers yet...it filters through 5 star, 4 star, and then
eventually offering 3 star players as the numbers become more clear. That's
what CB doesn't seem to understand. I guarantee this kid will have more
power conference offers before his recruiting process is over.
CougsndawgsWest Point , UT"Most players don't get
offers as early on as BYU offers them. Bronco has always been about early
commitments."What in the world are you talking about? Go look
at the recruiting services and take note of all the teams that already have
commitments. What it Mendenhall doing that is so special?
DuckhunterDidn't you know that per the crimson bubble star
adjustment scale, every Utah is stars +3 and every BYU recruit is stars -3?
Looks like a good player. Don't really care what the U peanut gallery has
to say...they will see him first hand just like us in a couple years and we will
see just how good he is then.Just a quick lesson in recruiting for
those that have no clue...we won't mention any names. Most players
don't get offers as early on as BYU offers them. Bronco has always been
about early commitments. This guy will get more offers as his recruiting
Good luck to the kid.He's gonna enjoy BYU academics.
to Big CougarWell. Rise & Shout! If Hoffman has 1/2 the career
Derrick Shelby has had (so far) that will be something indeed.
Depending on how this summer and next season goes, this kid could very likely
rise up to a 4-Star. I have family that live out in that area and the talk
is...this kid is the real deal! With all the other recruits coming in and
returning missionaries already arriving, it looks more and more like a special
season ahead for the BYU Cougars. I already know where u'll be. 4-5, 3-6,
2-7, next is 1-8?
@Pendergast"Chris B has a point. If a 3 star prospect who lives in P12
country & 3 his best offers were as listed. What does does that really say
about the player?"It says that with another year to go and
several summer football camps yet to attend, it's early still and he is
being waited on by other schools. Good examples from others in this board
referencing Fred Warner. USC pulled out all the stops late trying to steal him
from BYU (but failed).It's been Bronco's philosophy that
if he likes a kid and feels the kid would be successful in the culture at BYU
then he offers him and doesn't play the waiting game. He also likes to take
chances on under the radar kids who don't get a lot of offers. Cody Hoffman was a good example. His two offers were BYU and Sacramento St
(iirc). Now he's leaving BYU as one of it's all-time bests and is
looking at a likely NFL career.
Decent football player. I hope it works out for him and BYU. I also hope the
coaches find some people to block for him.
Silly gaggle of comments from you know who. His usual nonsense. Looks like the
kid can play, whether he winds up as a BYU QB or a DB, he looks like a
keeper.The only insightful comment was that BYU is not recruiting
drop back passers any more. Guess what. They don't recruit single wing
tailbacks anymore either.The offense of today is the pass/run guy.
Been coming for years. Who runs the West Coast Offense any more?
@christinaThe issue here, as always, is your hypocrisy. When a kid
that is a 3 star commits to utah you trumpet it as a great pick up no matter who
else offered him simply because he has 3 stars. But since this 3 star kid
committed to BYU now you want to play the "who else offered him" card.
You do realize most of us simply laugh AT you don't you?
As is often the case, the number of stars means nothing. Look at Jake Heaps.
Some kids have the ability to play college ball. Some don't. As I recall,
some unwanted kid named Cody Hoffman got an offer from BYU, and look what
its interesting to see so many ute s fans mock a 3 star recruit. have you
looked at the utes 2015 commits so far? 1 three star athlete the other three
dont even have a star ranking. Byu now has 5 3 star recruits for 2015. maybe you
should be a bit more worried about who you are bringing into your prestigious
Chandler Cox, a 3 star recruit from florida has a recent BYU offer. Checvk him
There were more players from Portland State in the last Super Bowl than from the
U of U.
BYU has made 13 offers and 5 out of the 13 are 4 stars.Difference is BYU
has a two commits that are 4 stars in one of the recruiting outlets.Utah
has 3-3 star commits.
To the Ute fans who will read this article in order to write disparaging things
about BYU and/or this 3-star recruit, please realize that the U has never, in
the history of football, outrecruited the Y when it comes to quarterbacks. That
was true when they were in the same conference and it will continue to be true
with BYU as an independant, including this instance with this very fine HS QB.
From Feb 27"A good coach can turn a team full of 1-2 stars nobodies
into national champions.Right?"Oct. 10th "Some
byu fans try to convince themselves that 1-2 star byu kids are just as talented
as 4 star Alabama players because stars don't mean anything."Want
As for the kid himself, well just like all of the rest of you I really
don't know anything about him other than what has been written, so just
like christina I don't have a clue if he'll be a good player or not,
but it is obvious that BYU is looking at a different type of QB these days. They
are now recruiting dual threat types.
@be "smart" - Can you back up your claim I've ever said byu only
gets 1-2 stars?You wouldn't make things up would you?Interesting you note Utah and how many offers are 3 stars guys and then leave
out byU? Are their numbers ever worse than Utah's if you're saying
Utah's show a big difference in quality? Typical byu fan
@ PendergastYou have to look at the situation.Oregon has offered 55
scholarships already for next year. Not a single 3-star recruit.USC has
offered 79 with 2-3 star recruits.Big name schools do not offer 3 star
recruits this early. As high players commit lower ranked players receive high
offersUtah has offered 82 scholarships and about half are 3 star guys
(shows a big difference in quality of programs)Fred Warner last year was
an early three star commit who had early offers from BYU an New Mexico State,
but by the end 7 pac schools had offered him.I am not saying this kid is
the next Mariota but he will have Pac-12 offers by signing day like most 3 star
@PendergastChris B might have had a point if he hadn't referenced
"BCS schools". There is no BCS.
re: BeSmartChris B has a point. If a 3 star prospect who lives in
P12 country & 3 his best offers were as listed. What does does that really
say about the player?
Everyone knows now that BYU is recruiting someone Utah will be offering him a
According to CBs Philosophyhe is a 3 star quarterback and BYU only gets 1
to 2 stars.Same thing happened with Fred Warner last year. He committed
early then the Pac came with offers later on.Guy will be offered by
several pac schools by signing day.
It sounds like BYU has given up on the drop back, pocket passing game.
cb - is it stars that matter or number of offers? U seem to flip flop whenever
it's convenient for you.
I'm more concerned with how well we develop these kids once they get to
BYU. We don't have a great record of turning good talent into great talent.
Until Bronco hires some coaches that know how to do that, we'll be a
I hope that Mangum ends up returning to BYU. With the change of offensive
philosophy, he may end up going elsewhere. Boise State or Washington may now be
his best fit.Not a lot of competition for this player. Remember,
some QB become great DB's.
I think he could be totally pretty awesome.
So were Portland state and Colorado state just some of his offers or all of
them? Does anyone know if even one of the 50 or so bcs teams offered him?
Great start to a great recruiting class.2014 - 2015 - Hill2016
- 2018 - Mangum2019 - 2020 - Domena
Way to beat out Porttland State on the recruit.