Published: Thursday, March 20 2014 12:10 p.m. MDT
I think the reason the Administration won't tell us how many young healthy
people are signing up is... they know it's not good. And that means
premiums are going to have to go way up in a year or two (once we find out how
short we are and can't pay the bills).They want this bad news
to be broken by the NEXT administration. So the NEXT administration looks like
the bad guy (HE raised your insurance premiums, not me...).It's
a good strategy. Cover the bad news up till you get out and then blame the new
guy for the fallout (kinda like when Obama took office).I wonder if
the new guy is going to run the country for 8 years whining about how he
inherited this insurance mess from his predecessor...Seems to be the
All the politicos out there are probably right... it's a total success.
What does some silly physician know about any of this anyway?
It's what us politicos think about it that matters, isn't it? These
physician's concerns don't even matter. I don't know why the
DMN would publish a letter from a physician. This is politics. And only what
the Obama defenders think should matter.
@2 bits"And that means premiums are going to have to go way up in a
year or two (once we find out how short we are and can't pay the
bills)."In a year or two the mandate penalty gets larger. Plus
you're forgetting one of the things the Republicans have complained about,
the so-called insurance company bailout effect that triggers if there's
insufficient premium control.
Schnee,I just think it's highly suspicious that ACA was passed in his
first term (the first year I think)... but the most painful parts were marked
from the start to not go into affect until 2016 (when he's gone). And
other parts were put off later on.Isn't it a little weird to
pass your landmark legislation... and put implementing the bulk of it off till
you are gone or almost gone?? And that assumes he would get a second term. If
not... ALL of it would have happened under his successor.===If it's great law.. and it's great policy... why not implement
it NOW?Why must the biggest parts wait till after your
re-election... and the parts with the biggest possibility of negatives for the
people must wait till after you are gone?I mean if it was so
great... why not implement ALL of it in his first term (so we would know if we
wanted to give him a second term or not)?
I have to bring back up what Badgerbadger said: Insurance isn't healthcare.
Even uninsured people in the United States have greater healthcare (not to
mention living conditions) than most places in the world.
@Schnee "...mandate penalty...bailout..."Sure, that's
what the law says, but there's an election coming in 2016. Who's to
say Obama won't postpone the pain again by decree? He's between a rock
and a hard place, because voters will hate the mandates and the bailouts, but
his signature accomplishment goes down in flames without them.
@Badgerbadger "I have yet to see anyone turned down for health care, let
alone lines of people. Insurance yes, health care - no." OKAY, we have an
excellent, if tragic, statistical experiment underway, pitting states which have
adopted medicare expansion a la ACA, and those that haven't like Utah. A
few of us socialists intend to compare outcomes.
When promoting this lame failure of a healthcare system, bho and his fellow
deluded leftists went on and on about how there are 50 million uninsured
citizens in the country. Obamacare has now signed up about 7 million if you
believe the current lies? Of the 7 million it is starting to sound like maybe
15% of them are people who didn't have insurance before obamacare (remember
the big lie about how nothing would change if you liked the doctor and coverage
you already had), or have actually paid their premiums. Yeah that is a leftists
measurement of success! Sorry but I can't stop laughing when I hear
bho cheerleaders tell us things like: "I've had the same insurance for
15 years", and then in the next breath tell us how it changed 7 years ago,
and anyone with a brain knows it changed again the past year and a half, just to
comply with all the new abortion and other mandates. How about the silliness of
an alleged doctor, telling us about NO difference between now and pre-obamacare.
Notice he didn't tell about all the increased, and more affordable
healthcare he is now providing? What a joke!!
Yes Badger, it's all about insurance not healthcare and since you and I
have been covering the costs of healthcare for the uninsured, it is appropriate
that they start contributing. Healthcare providers across the spectrum are
equally to blame that healthcare is absorbing 20+% of the biggest economy of the
world. I find it ironic that it took a democratic POTUS with a obstructionist
Congress that finally got a republican healthcare proposal enacted into law.
Soon you will realize that the best solution would be what all other
industrialized nations have figured out long ago. A single payer system. HR 676
would be the best method.
@GaryO:"Because it's good for America, and more and more people
are beginning to realize that."I'll admit Obamacare is good
for the nation except for one thing... the requirement to purchase health
insurance or pay a fine. What kind of government would require anyone to
purchase something they don't want or need? Answer: A socialist kind of
government.What this means is that the government can also require
you to buy and eat broccoli... or pay a hefty fine.
@2 bits:"In realityville, if we don't pay enough in premiums to
pay the bills... it will go bankrupt."Not so. In realityville
if there's not enough premiums to pay the bills or to subsidize insurance
for the poor, the government will simply raise taxes to make up the difference.
A very slippery slope.Not only that, soon the government will be
deciding what kind of healthcare you are entitled to. If some old geezer needs
a hip replacement, too bad. Just go home and take a pain pill, is the advice of
our beloved leader.@pragmatistferlife:"The only thing the
ACA says to insurance companies is the policy has to cover certain
things."True, and why would I be needing insurance to cover
pregnancy or breast cancer?@one vote:"Sorry Ben, the ship
has sailed."True, and we all know what happened to the Titanic.
I agree with "Gary O"...and would like to add this isn't about
"control" it's about giving more people the ability to pay their
health care bills. About six million or more have signed up because they need
insurance...I'm one and glad to have it after seven with none. The previous
health insurance system was failing miserably and this is a good step to correct
it. (I'm sure more corrections are to come). This is similar to the country
addressing the problem of the elderly in 1965 when Medicare was instigated. Now,
I don't think wish that would have been overturned for their parents and
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