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Published: Tuesday, March 18 2014 11:43 p.m. MDT

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LovelyDeseret
Gilbert, AZ

I used to consider myself a Democrat. They seem to have figuratively shot themselves in the foot with their lack of moral values and then not ridding themselves of their immoral elected officials.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

It would be a good process, but, I have found attending the democrat caucus at least in my neighborhood; it is simply a one issue party. Everything boiled down to who supports gays the most and how to get gay marriage approved. Which is fine to cover that topic, but, being the only topic it's hard to understand who the "best" candidate might be; since they will face more issues than just gay marriage.

The biggest trouble to run for office is money. Politics only benefits those with money and the means to buy and court voters. Which takes time, which you can have if you have money.

The system needs to open up, so, anyone can run and have a chance to get their platform out.

But neither political party would ever give up "control". But they'll give you lip service in how important you are and say things to make you feel good. As they find more ways to take your money.

Wonder
Provo, UT

@Lovely Deseret -- Democratic politicians are more immoral that Republican politicians? How do you figure that. Democrats don't lack moral values. They just value things like helping the poor. You know, un-Godly things like that.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@LovelyDeseret

I hope morality of elected officials isn't your only criteria for voting. There's plenty of immoral apples in both barrels.

Fan-attic
ROY, UT

I went to a Democrat caucus once, to give it a shot. All I heard was complaining about Republicans. I hope that was not representative of all Democrat caucus meetings. I am going to try the Republican caucus tonight, to see if they can do more than complain about Democrats.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

I think Liberal Ted said it all. Anyone is sorely mistaken to think that elected officials from either side have a monopoly on virtue. However, both Democratic and Republican "followers" are delusional if they believe that either party is interested in solving problems. It will take independent minded people working within those parties to change the direction of this country and, more importantly, independent minded citizens filled with virtue, thrift, and a work ethic to make a difference. Anyone-and I mean anyone-that thinks that more government involvement to solve problems will work is so far removed from reality to warrant a therapist! Sorry! The truth hurts!

SG in SLC
Salt Lake City, UT

I attended my precinct's Democratic caucus meeting last night, and the topic of same-gender attraction and marriage never came up in our group; nor did Republican-bashing, for that matter. We did talk a lot about immigration reform (most of the discussion closely followed the Utah Compact approach and the LDS church's stated position on the issue), environmental issues (somewhat diverse but reasonable views, in my opinion), and education (again, diverse but reasonable views). Of course, your mileage may vary, and that holds true whether you attend a Democrat or Republican caucus -- some will be very balanced and moderate, while others will get off into the weeds of fixating on ideological purity and opposition-bashing.

In my experience, the Democratic Party is a "big tent" (especially in Utah). There is room in the Party for pro-life Democrats, pro-choice Democrats, immigration amnesty Democrats, immigration hard-liner Democrats, pro-Second Amendment Democrats, pro-gun control Democrats, liberal Democrats, conservative Democrats, and everything in between. In contrast, my experience has been that those who are not completely in lock-step with the Republican Party platform tend to get labeled as RINOs and marginalized. Again, your mileage may vary . . .

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

SG in SLC
Salt Lake City, UT

Agreed, our Caucus discussions revolved around Education and the Enviroment -- specifically;

Utah's race to the national bottom of the list of per pupil spending, clearing beating West Virgina by a large margin on our way to the very, VERY bottom,
and
Utah's filthy, polluted air -- it's impact of both citizens health, and the negative economic impact it's having on our state by companies unwilling to either say or relocate here because of it ---
and
the GOP's lack of action to do anything about it.

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LovelyDeseret
Gilbert, AZ
I used to consider myself a Democrat. They seem to have figuratively shot themselves in the foot with their lack of moral values and then not ridding themselves of their immoral elected officials.

11:39 p.m. March 18, 2014

FYI --
(former) Utah AG John Swallow was a Republican, and resigned from office for bad values, immoral actions and ethics.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Went to South Davis County Demo caucus last night. Nice turnout. Thoughtful discussions about education and air quality. I was surprised to see so many of my neighbors there -- and without paper bags over their heads!

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