These kinds of articles are needed. The sports world forgets that the WCC even
exists because other than Gonzaga no team has really done much in decades.
A better article would be explaining Ute fans to St Mary's...Ute fans: Mostly the same demographic as BYU fans - white, blond, LDS, from
Utah, don't smoke or drink, etc., live mostly at home, come from the same
families and have tons in common with BYU fans, but will swear up and down that
they are completely different. And they try real hard to BE different, but in
the end are still pretty squeaky clean conservative compared to everyone else
outside Utah. I have tons of friends and family that are Utah fans.
I just crack up at all the big deal we make about how "different" we
are. OK, some are, but really we have a lot in common.
Utah should be fine in this one. St. Mary's had a pretty down year and the
Utes put together a remarkable season. While it is at St. Mary I expect the
Utes to win this one down the stretch by five to eight points. Good Luck Utah.
@eastcoastcoug Amen! That's funny
eastcoast - No, a majority of us are NOT LDS and we absolutely like our
differences. Only half of the population of the state of Utah is LDS and I think
you would agree 99% of non-LDS people are either Utah fans or fans of other
schools(not byu). Most Utah fans are NOT lds.And just look at the
Utah football team and the byu football team - there clearly are big differences
No problem with marys because we are in a prestegous conference and that means
we are better and can win them pretty good when we play.
@ CBI see you are not following through with the wager concerning BYU in
the Tournamentask Ken he saw.A large percentage of Utah fans are
LDS. 62.2 percent of Utah is LDS as of 2012 Gallup pollI ran a
multimillion dollar business in Salt Lake County where I get to know hundreds of
people really well. You typically have Utah fans who are LDS and like Utah
for whatever reason.Then you typically have Utah fans who don't like
BYU (some LDS some not).Out of the first 10 people I thought of that I
talked sports with 6 were BYU fans (2 not LDS) 4 were Utah fans (2 LDS).I
have non LDS people in my family and they are avid BYU fans.Though it may
not be as high of a percentage as what I said many Utah fans are LDS.Out
of 8 of my best high school friends 6 of them are utah fans and LDS.you
can tell by the reduction in attendance at Utah Basketball games what was it
St. Mary's has had some stand out players in the last few years, but talent
wise is down this year. I'm more than a little surprised St. Mary's is
a 4th seed and Utah a 5th seed. Maybe a nod to Utah's extremely weak
nonconference schedule? If not, then difficult to explain.The Utes
are the better team, they should have no problem beating St. Mary's unless
Utah has a really bad game and St. Mary's has a really great game which, I
think, is very unlikely.
Check out the new USA today articleBYU is 2.05 times more influential in
the world than the U.LOL Pac-12 what
Dear Saint Marys,Utes Basketball and it's fans are nothing like byu.
BeSmartCheyenne, WYWhat? Do you have only 10 friends...or is
it 14? And your study is validated by attendance at basketball games? LOL!!
I am actually planning on seeing the Utes play for the first time tonight. I
don't have the pac network. I am curious to see their JC guard play,
sounds like the real deal. Most of these teams are very similar in talent.
Haven't seen the Vegas line but I would give St. Mary's the edge
playing at home. My impression is that the Utes are better but they are pretty
lousy on the road. Time will tell.
eastcoastcoug, very funny comment, and it already worked, as seen above.
Yes the WCC is lesser known which is why I am certain the Utes will beat St.
Mary's badly. I mean why even play the game with this lesser known
program. The Utes are in the PAC 12 and should just get a free pass right to
the next round. Of course should they fail to win and be upset by
the WCC representative I suspect it will be the fault of the referees, or an
injury or you can always talk about how the Utes are in the PAC and beat BYU in
football last year.And did I mention the Utes are in the PAC 12. In
case you missed that, the Utah Utes now play in the PAC 12. That is the
greatest program in the whole world. Its a harder schedule than playing in the
NBA. BYU only has to play Gonzaga. But the Utes play again teams
that have men taller than redwood trees. So this game should be easy for them.
IDC, it's virtually a pick'em. When betting first opened, SMC was
listed as a 3 point favorite, but nearly every source now has the game as either
a pick'em or with Utah as a 1 point favorite.SMC is a pretty
solid team, and I expect probably a close contest most of the game. If Loveridge
and Taylor can get hot (or at least better than lukewarm) shooting, I think
Delon will get some space to create and take control late. Defensively, Waldo is
the biggest concern I have, but with 20 potential fouls to give between
Utah's 4 bigs that regularly see time, I don't see him getting into
much of a rhythm. 45% FG and winning the rebounding battle I think will be
sufficient for a good Utes win.
Dear Saint Marys,Unlike you and the rest of the WCC, byu fans are obsessed
with the PAC 12 and it's emblem.
@ Chris B."The sports world forgets that the WCC even exists
because other than Gonzaga no team has really done much in decades."This succinctly describes the Utah basketball program as well. Sounds
like the Utes have finally found a home. Mark it down. LOL!
Chris BSalt Lake City, UT"The sports world forgets that the WCC
even exists because other than Gonzaga no team has really done much in
decades."I guess the "sports world" excludes Salt Lake
City and County. Most of the LDS, non-LDS, and U of U students/fans
certainly know the WCC (and its high school gyms) exists.
I hope the patron saint of St. Mary's and all the other "saints"
pray hard for a St. Mary's victory tonight.
Chris B. is a true blue BYU fan, still in the closet. His comments only cause
Cougar fans to rise and shout and love their team all the more. Though they
surely wouldn't admit it, Y players are no doubt given fodder for fuel by
Chris B. comments as well. Utes will beat St. Mary's because
Coach K. won't let them lose, Utah has a good man at the helm there.
From a Cougar, Good Luck, Utes. Play like you did against BYU and you will win.
Wow, eastcoast, you really struck a nerve with Chris B as he emphatically states
most Ute fans are NOT LDS. Hilarious! But it probably factors in to his hatred
of all things Blue and White.All the Ute fans I know personally (at
least 40 people) are all LDS. But then I live in Utah county.
This is a reasonable summary of St. Mary's but they are not the team
they've been in recent years. I think Utah can/should win this game pretty
easily. SM just doesn't have the depth needed to keep up in the paint.
Waldow is good but can get frustrated easily if hounded for position. Should be
a good one. Ute fans should take in all the sights and excitement of that HS
gym while they have the chance. We all know how secretly they envy playing in
those types of gyms regularly. (Yes, my sarcasm font is on)
Chris B:"The sports world forgets that the WCC even exists because
other than Gonzaga no team has really done much in decades."Yep,
and there are still people that call it the PAC10 even though they know there
are 12 teams in it. I was talking with a Florida fan the other day...he's
from Orlando, and he said quote: "I wonder if the PAC10 kept their
receipt?" We were just talking football (Georgia vs Florida) and then in
general and he brought that up. Needless to say I was I was laughing my head
@KralonYour take is spot on; nicely done. I have watched St.
Mary's vs. Gonzaga (3 times), BYU and San Francisco. I have watched Utah
about 10-12 times. No way Utah should lose this game. This St. Mary's team
is down this year. Gonzaga crushed them in each contest. It's college hoops
though; you never know.
Go Utes!!! I'm counting on a Ute victory...they have made great strides
this year...kicked our butts...
As we know the utes can have a really bad game and you never know when it is
going to happen like the Pullman game or 13 points in an entire half against
Arizona on national TV Let's just hope they have one of those games
Since BYU swept the Gaels this season, our Utes shouldn't have any trouble
stomping Saint Mary's.
The 2012 census says 62.2% of Utahns are LDS. Hasn't changed in 10
years.A few more stats about the U and the Y:50-60% of
Utah students are LDS, 98% at BYU 84% of Utah students come from the state
of Utah, only 33% at BYU77% of Utah students are White, 86% of BYU
students are WhiteUtah was ranked 20th as "most religious", BYU
was 10thUtah applicants: 3.55 GPA, BYU applicants: 3.80Percent
of students living at home: Utah 80%, BYU 15%. Far more Utes live with Mom than
in the Frat houses. Not the image the Utes like to portray..
ekuteLayton, UT"Dear Saint Marys,Unlike you and the
rest of the WCC, byu fans are obsessed with the PAC 12 and it's
emblem."Oh, so those are BYU fans driving all of those cars with
pac 12 stickers on them... Now I understand!
eastcoastcoug: "Far more Utes live with Mom than in the Frat houses."I'd like to know where you got that stat from. I lived off campus
and commuted my entire time at the U, but was 300 miles from "Mom".
I'd say about 90% of the students I associated with also commuted, but
maybe 10% of them actually lived with "Mom".
Honestly, I've never seen a PAC 12 sticker but I heard that there's
one out there and everybody in happy valley noticed it. lol.
Good entertainment tonight. Especially the similarities between The U and Byu
fans. Very funny.
@BeSmartUSA Today? No thanks I stopped reading the 'matrix
control system' information a long time ago. BYU has
fans/members spread throughout the country and beyond. They have their TV
station, although I have not been impressed checking it out. Nevertheless, BYU
has prospered with their ESPN relationship for the most part. Look, there is a
lot of things to be proud of as a BYU fan, but those same publications that laud
you sometimes turn on you. Don't be lost on the fact that that is part of
how your influence is seen to them. Yes BYU can get a break in the polls over
Utah at times when both are close to equal, but it's the overall image that
@Chris B.This whole 99% of us this and that all the time is not
representing us Ute fans well at all. I have a split decision percentage of
friends all throughout my 43 years here in Utah that are LDS and Utah fans. So
don't make all of us out to be on some crusade against the church. Sure we like to to see ourselves as different and unique in our own ways
and some of us can't stand the culture in Provo. Back in the day, all my
trips to hang at BYU for the weekend with childhood friends on campus was Planet
Pluto for sure. But many of us respect BYU while wanting to beat them badly.
I think the nation knows about about the WCC and St. Mary's. The whole
nation saw St. Mary's take utah to the woodshed. An embarrassing night for
Not all ute fans,-but to the sarcastic ones:This was a great win by
the Gaels. Justice has been served.
@ Chris and ekute:You guys crack up most of us who try to be
objective.Yes Chris, these articles are needed because when an average WCC
team beats the Utes, that isn't saying much.Always seeing the world
in red has gotta sometimes be painful.How does it feel getting beat
by the 4th place team who "hasn't done much in decades" and from
"a conference that no one has heard of" and by double-digits no-less?
Ouch! I guess that those WCC teams can play some ball…
Spokane UteSpokane, WA@KralonYour take is spot on;
nicely done. I have watched St. Mary's vs. Gonzaga (3 times), BYU and San
Francisco. I have watched Utah about 10-12 times. No way Utah should lose this
game. This St. Mary's team is down this year. Gonzaga crushed them in each
contest. It's college hoops though; you never know.When the wcc haters on
here do nothing but put down their schools and cal it church lesgue like most
of the so called ute fans on here have done ,it really tends to tick of the
players on those teams off which is 1 reason why utah got their butts handed
to then tonite of course it helps when the trash talk is e mailed to their
Wow this was a hilarious night for basketball. All the pac12 prestige down the
toilet to the 4th place team from the might WCC in a gym that holds 3500
@StGtoSLCUS News says 86% live off campus. The U. is known as a
"commuter school" for the number that live at home and drive into campus
every day. 84% are from the state of Utah. Wow. Mostly the Wasatch Front.
That's a high percentage for a small state. 31% of undergraduates are over
25 years old.Look at the number of apartments around the campus
compared to most US universities. There just aren't that many. I've
known scores of people that lived at home. I've also known several student
ward bishops who have confirmed this as the majority of their students.BYU has the Honor Code. Utah students live by Mom and Dad's rules until
they're over 25. Isn't it great...we just have so much in common!!
Tators,It was an embarrassing and it's worrisome that we haven't
seen the Utes resolve their issue with closing out games on the road or that
Delon doesn't have a midrange shot. Hopefully with hard work this summer a
more refined and mature team will return for next year.I don't think
that guy from Ct. has ever been to Utah or to a Utes event. Even his description
of a byu fan is off base. Like I said, I've never noticed a PAC 12 sticker
but you can't deny that if they're out there they definitely get under
the skin of the detractors. lol.
@ ekute:You are correct. BYU and it's fans are nothing like
Utah and it's fans. And BYU's fans are very thankful for that...
totally grateful. Best compliment we've received in quite awhile.
Thanks.BTW: BYU is totally not obsessed with the PAC12. However, we
do enjoy how it's able to keep Utah tucked away in it's basement in
football and lower-tiered in basketball. And the PAC12 stickers are the
entertainment of the year for BYU fans. Absolutely hilarious how Utah fans stick
them on anything and everything before ever earning them! @ Chris
B:Even if "the sports world doesn't know much about the
WCC" (as you put it), Utah certainly does by now... after being taken to the
woodshed by a very average WCC team who "hasn't done much in
decades". And by double digits, no less.Wow! Talk about setting
yourself up for a gigantic fall.LOL!
@Epoint....the Titanic had a good man at the helm as well.Speaking of
disasters...did you see the one last night in Moraga?
eastcoastcoug, again funny, and would be funnier if it were true. There are
apartment buildings all over downtown SLC filled with U students, nowhere near
that number live with their parents.