How about the Gaels? Tough loss for the Utes against a higher seeded team from
the WCC in a "high school gym"!!! Guess Utah was not as excited to be in
the NIT as was stated on an article in the DN!!!Go Cougs beat the
so is the NIT now some prestigious bball tournament that everyone wants to be
in? huh Ute fans?
yabutsSuch a nice retort to my Chris B imitation. I'll watch
the game tonight and in all honesty it really doesn't make a difference to
me who wins.If the Utes win it will finally mean they've turned
a little more towards success. I have no qualms in recognizing improvement. Good
grief it surely didn't take a lot to go up from these past few seasons. But
winning against St. Mary's would be something to tip a hat to.On the other side of the coin if we have a win for St. Mary's this would
just be another humiliation for the Utes... playing in a high school gym, losing
to a WCC conference opponent, losing in the first round in the NIT and so
forth.You get the picture I'm sure.Who ever wins
I'll be smiling either way but if I get a good laugh tonight...
you'll understand by all the comments come tomorrow.It's
all in good fun... it's a rivalry.And yes I enjoy BYU's
football schedule each year... I'm sure you enjoy the holidays too.Go Gaels!
@stgAnd yet BYU is in the NCAA, and the committee chairman said they
were "comfortably in" and utah is playing on the road in the nit to a
team from a conference you disparage. Go figure huh?
Brio: "That's probably why BYU is rated as the better team by literally
all national rating services."False. Ken Pomeroy: Utah 36, BYU
50; ESPN Basketball Power Index: Utah 34, BYU 42; Massey: Utah 47, BYU 50;
Sagarin: BYU 42 (83.39 rating), Utah 43 (83.38 rating). The only system with any
real disparity in BYU's favor is the antiquated RPI, which has historically
a lower rate of predicting winners than the BPI or Sagarin. "Literally
all" is not even close to the same thing as 40%.And to your
football point, Utah ended the season rated higher than BYU, despite having a
losing season while BYU had a winning season. Was definitely not a successful
season for Utah (I'll let you determine your own definition of
"success", as you did "literally all"), but at least I have
facts that I didn't make up to back up my opinion that Utah was indeed a
better team than BYU.
Uteology, Stop with the selective pregame spin. I hope the Utes win,
but your constant excuses, just make it easier for BYU fans to have it come back
to bite you. BYU might have taken Utah to the woodshed in the MC, so what? If
Utah loses to a team BYU swept, I expect you to come back and give analysis.Worst case scenario is for Utah to lose tonight in a HS gym to a team
BYU swept exposed on ESPN2. Welcome to the big leagues of the PAC.Give it a rest bro. They win, cool, they lose, BYU fans will have a field day
with the loss.
"Krystkowiak acknowledged there was some disappointment at getting a No. 5
seed for the NIT"Dude, it is a problem YOU created by scheduling
the weak preseason you did! Stop whining and get a stronger schedule, and go
whip St. Mary's.I think "most" of the comments on this
board are pretty classy. I would like to see more of it. As much as I dislike
most of the fan-hate shtick, I wish the Utes the best, and regardless of
conference affiliation, I wish the Utes a victory, and bring home the W tonight.
I'm proud the Utes are back!
If I was to say I don't care that BYU lost the game this season to utah
then I would be lying, I care. But at the same time if you asked me would I have
preferred BYU beat utah then gone to the nit, or would I prefer BYU loses to
utah but goes to the NCAA......well let's just say I like the way things
turned out this season and I'd be willing to live with it that way every
season if I had to. Fortunately BYU beats utah most seasons, in fact this is the
first time utah has won in 7 tries, and then BYU still goes to the NCAA while
utah goes to the lowly nit for their first post season appearance in more than
half a decade. Yea I'll take what I got as a fan this year.
We shall see.
The goal for Utah was to rebuild the program this year, mission accomplished.The NIT bid is a major step up for the program, it is not a slight as
BYU fans continue to mock. Which ironically is where they were last year.Utah's 2013 OOC schedule wasn't created to compete for a NCAA
bid.Just like BYU's 2014 football schedule wasn't created to
compete for a Playoff bid.
@BrioUtah did beat BYU in the Huntsman Center, and almost beat
Arizona. But away from home, Arizona completely befuddled and embarrassed them,
and BYU would probably take them to the woodshed. ----------Actually, Utah completely befuddled and embarrassed BYU by running BYU
off the court in less than 5 minutes of play. With less than 2 minutes left in
the game and up 22 points Utah showed mercy and stopped playing. Utah was taken to woodshed by only TWO teams both on the road: RPI #4 Arizona
and #14 UCLA.Against teams like #31 Colorado, #40 Stanford, #44 ASU
we were able to compete on the road, in fact they just "squeaked" by
against Utah.So would #32 BYU take Utah to the woodshed at the MC?
Highly unlikely, a close game either way.
Brio, Arizona certainly embarassed and befuddled the Utes at the MGM arena, but
in Tucson, the game was very close until the closing minutes. I
like the Utes chances against Saint Mary's. They are a very disciplined
team, but if the Utes can get the ball inside and play solid defense they should
come out the victor.Good luck Utes. I hope you can keep the season
going and continue to get in much needed practice and added experience.
@ Mormon Ute:Actually, Brio's statement was probably quite
realistic. BYU is about as dominant in the Marriott Center as Utah is in the
Huntsman Center. And considering how competitively BYU played (and sometimes
beat) ranked teams (considered much better than Utah) when they played in Provo,
there's truly not much doubt the Cougars would've won going away if
Utah would've played BYU there. Very similar to what Utah did to BYU in
SLC. Both teams are very dominant at home.So yes, it was a very realistic
Brio,Just to slightly correct your facts. The Utes didn't get
dominated by very many teams even on the road so I don't think your
assessment is accurate. Yes, the number 4 team in the country did dominate them
on a nuetral court, but in most of the Ute's conference games they were
competitive. That includes road games. So to say BYU would have taken the Utes
to the wood shed in Provo isn't very realistic.
Very few people dispute that Utah is a very good team... at home. But on the
road, that's often a completely different story. They often don't seem
to be the same team.Utah did beat BYU in the Huntsman Center, and
almost beat Arizona. But away from home, Arizona completely befuddled and
embarrassed them, and BYU would probably take them to the woodshed. That's
probably why BYU is rated as the better team by literally all national rating
services.The team Utah and BYU played in common on the road,
Stanford, indicates that very point. BYU beat Stanford at Stanford while Utah
couldn't get the job done. So once again, like in football,
Utah fans hang their hat on the single and only nail they've got... that
single game against BYU, and try to extrapolate too much from it. However,
national pundits aren't buying into it. That's why BYU is going
dancing while Utah earned a chance to sit by a window and watch... quite similar
to what happened during the football season. Facts don't lie,
especially when open enough to look at the bigger picture, which some people
obviously are not.
This is a great opportunity for the Runnin Utes to gain some tournament
experience which is very valuable for this young team going forward. The
benefits of this will carry forward for several years.Go Utes!
Memo To the Utah "Pac 12" utes;Next year don't be
afraid to schedule Weber State in the preseason, it will help your RPI and you
can ask them about their experience of making the Big Dance "in case"
you just happen to make it next year.
Let's win this whole thing and prove to everyone that we're the 69th
best team in the country!!!
Yabuts,Since it is better then almost all of our WAC and MWC schedules,
Yes I do like our up coming football schedule and if the team can cut out or
down the injuries especially to the secondary then they could have a very nice
run!!! And we the fans will get to see most if not all the games on TV!!! Which
we could not do in the WAC or MWC!!!Go Cougs beat the Ducks!!! Rise
If the game was played at the HC then Utah most likely would won by double
digits.#60 SMC is as good as #62 California, it's good road
test.. We have a great chance of winning tonight even if Loveridge struggles
again, just like we did at Cal, in a close game After starting off
0-6 (0-5 in PAC-12) on the road, to teams like #218 WSU, #101 Washington, and
#82 Boise State, Utah finished 3-3 in 2nd half of the season on the road. IMO that's called improvement considering the wins were against
similar teams we were losing to in the start of the season: #170 USC, #101
Washington, #62 Cal.For a comparison BYU is 1-2 (33%) vs PAC-12 on
the road, Utah is 3-8 (27%).
Spokane Ute,You make some valid arguments but you could exchange Utah for
BYU in most and it would fit! BYU had interest from the Big East but we see what
happened there as it imploded and the Big12 wanted BYU to give up TV rights like
the MWC did to BYU so it was not the right fit either!!! BYU/Utah is a great
rivalry just some fans on both sides inject too much hate into it which is a
shame because the two schools were cut from the same bolt of cloth by the same
men!!! Good Luck to all the Utah schools in post season!!!Go BYU
beat the Ducks!!! Rise Up!!!
SAMMYG:I bet you also love your upcoming football schedule...
BYU= Big DanceWeber state= Big DanceU of U= NITMy,
my, the planets are all in alignment. This is one great day for this fan.
Utes win one game in the past fifteen, and it's a slaughter?--It
happens!Arizona brought reality.The better team is at
I hope Utah wins this one big just shut the mouth of byu trolls.
I love how the BYU fans talk about our "crimson colored glasses" when
they seem to see everything through "royal blue colored glasses"!Let's throw out the records, the RPIs, the SOS, etc. and look at
the one head to head competition this season: 84 - 61. And that is a FACT no
matter what color of glasses we are all wearing.
Winning the battle doesn't always mean you win the war. Ute fans love to
point to the drubbing they administered to the Cougs as a sign that their team
is better. For one game they were. Three words describe what this really is all
about: Body of Work. BYU did what Utah couldn't/didn't do. They beat
Stanford at Stanford. They had a meaningful, tough, pre-season schedule. They
beat some good teams during this pre-season schedule. They were never blown out
by the great teams they played, and in fact had a real chance to beat some of
the best teams in the country. The old bigger brother down South rears it's
envious head again.
I look forward to the game. Pretty good matchup. Considering where the Utes were
two years ago, the NIT is good thing. BYU fans are having trouble dealing with
this and I'm not sure why? I mean the polls say there better, even though
the score board say otherwise. I guess you have to grasp for moral victories
when ever possible. Especially considering you got slaughtered, on the court, by
the team you are comparing yours too. Go Utes Go!
Even though we are none and done in the ncaa tournamant we will be more than one
and done in NIT because we will win all our teams and win the NIT national
I love my WCC membership!Go Gaels!
Away game? So the utes got a little too excited and premature when they sent out
an email to season ticket holders saying there would be a postseason home game?