Back Talk,Sounding like most BYU fans actually is not a bad thing. I know
this is a sensitive subject because I have no idea about your background, and I
do indeed try to follow the Second Great Commandment. But to attain a level of
respect among most readers, you need to be sure your spelling is accurate and
you have a minimum of grammatical errors, for starters. People understand the
occasional slip, but a pattern immediately sends your credibility into the tank.
On top of that, one's analysis needs to make sense. Is it possible to be
right about Lloyd being the deciding factor against Florida when no one
else--fan or basketball "expert"--talked about that? Yes, but it's
extraordinarily unlikely. Was BYU's downfall really the lack of another
scoring guard? Or was it perhaps instead the lack of another reliable scorer
close to the basket to keep the Florida defense from packing into the lane?
Lloyd might have helped. But to think that a reliable post presence would not
have been of significantly more value simply doesn't make sense from a
I'm not giving up on Worthington but I'm also not willing to go
without another option on the roster. BYU does have another big guy coming back
from a mission (can't remember his name right now) and another
6'10" freshman in Andrus planning to play a year before leaving (the
Mika plan). I'm hoping with them, we'll have more options in the
paint and also hoping Luke make great strides.
Cougar Passion- not sounding like most BYU fans is not really a bad thing.As for the Florida game, you could also list several other "if"
reasons why BYU lost that game. I dont diagree that Davies would have helped
BYU win or that "Chris" Collingsworth would help BYU as well if he were
stil here. "If" Jimmer would have had a better shooting night they also
would have won. So what?I guess I mention Lloyd becuase BYU is
playing Oregon who has Llyods brother on their team. Plus, we were talking about
one of the last NCAA games that BYU played. Lloyd proved to be a difference
maker against Florida becuase of the style of play that he had. It is too bad
that he wasnt able to be there the next year. As for Worthington,
size does matter and I understand that some kids are recruited simply because of
that. Like I said, i hope I am wrong and that he will develop into becoming an
effective player. As of now, not much help other than a body blocker and foul
giver. Oh do I hope that BYU can win against the "corporate"
sponsor Oregon team.
Gonzaga has this guy named Karnowski on the roster. Last season, he barely
played; and when he did, he didn't look that great. But, look at him this
season. Not a bad player!I'm not saying Worthington is going
to be a Karnowski and contribute next season as a solid post player. However,
with a year of Division I experience, he certainly could be much improved.
Don't give up on him yet. Jimmer wasn't much of a player his first
I think Worthington made marked improvements as the season went on and I think
he has a bright future at BYU... as long as they continue to ease him in. I
think coach Rose used him perfectly this year (as the Kaufusi enforcer
replacement) and hope he can refine his game to the point where he makes a
meaningful contribution. He's on his way. Go Cougs!
Back Talk,Your post doesn't have the look or feel of those of many
BYU fans. I won't be much more clear about it than that, but, among other
things, I'm guessing that most BYU fans thought the loss of a post presence
in Brandon Davies was the reason we lost to Florida the next year rather than
the absence of Lloyd, and that injuries to big men, particularly Chris
Collinsworth who could still be playing this year if recovered, make the
disparaging of a 6'10" kid who wasn't even recruited by his home
school a rather petty point. I am frankly grateful for any contribution Luke
Worthington makes as a freshman, and I get the impression Dave Rose has been as
well. I'm sure if Coach can recruit another guy his size either out of
high school or from the JC ranks that can fit at BYU and do better, he will do
What I remember is that Michael Loyld was the key reason BYU beat Florida. It
was too bad that he wasnt around the next year so that he could have done it
again. I beleive he would have made the difference that year as well. Remember
Obuo's heavy handed layup attempt toward the end of the game? Lloyd was
fast and smooth. Hopefully, Winder and Carlino will be step up and
help BYU beat Oregon this year.As for Worthington, there has to be a
JC guy or a transfer that could be of more help than he has been or will be.
Hopefully, I will be wrong and he can turn into the guy with the fangs painted
on his mouthpiece from St Marys. BYU cant continue to play with only
3 players who are scoring threats. It kills the spacing.