CAUCUSES,really in this day and age?,What a 17th century farce and Utah is so
wealthy and connected to the internet.Politicians rather,STATESMEN SHOULD BE
Hey BU52,You're about 2 weeks late to the party. Herbert
signed. Nothing meaningful will happen in the courts. 45 states have made
similar reforms. It's over. What's new is law. Thank goodness. From,#1 Champ
I'm really not sure of the nuances of the proposed legislation. However,
from the standpoint of grass-roots participation, I really liked the "Mass
Meeting" system in Utah. This is where the neighborhood could gather and
make their wishes known; where delegates could be selected from the group to
represent at County and State conventions. Your political ability, if you had
any such ambitions, would be initially tested by your ability to get friends and
neighbors to come out and support you. Ever since then, other
places I've lived (and where I currently live), I've always felt that
the Party Apparatchiks controlled everything, including who got to run, the
platform, etc. To be sure, some of that is also true in Utah; but at least
there is a clear(er) opportunity for the individual citizen to make themselves
felt. (I also like the idea behind the Caucus systems in places like Iowa,
"Bailout Bob" LIKED the caucus system when it elected him.Not so much when it held him responsible for his votes.For 18
yrs.(almost 40 for Hatch)we listened to BOTH of them tell us how
"conservative" they were, and how they would work to "stop the
spending" in D.C. They didn't do that. Instead, they "reached
across the aisle", "compromised" (to the tune of 17 trillion debt),
and "went along to get along". Now they think its' UNBELIEVABLE
that anyone question whether they should hold public office - in perpetuity!There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with being a democrat; just admit
it upfront.Gov. Herbert - please veto the direct primary bill. ONLY
the political party themselves should be allowed to nominate their candidates.
One would think that "former Senator" Bennett would be content to keep
quiet.This campaign on his part to change the Utah process strongly
suggests that he thinks it was the process that denied him a place on the ballot
instead of his record in Congress.His attitude - of entitlement -
like that of others who have been in Washington too long - is one of the
greatest problems we have in our republic.Utah should not change its
caucus system to a more open primary process. The power of the caucus is the
only way either party can get rid of a bad, but persistent incumbent - short of
losing the seat to the opposing party.
I hope that Bennett explained to the reporter why it would have been a good
thing to give him a shot at the ballot, and the reporter just cut that out.
Because the way Bennett is quoted in the story, it makes it sound like the
purpose of elections is to elect candidates who somehow deserve it, instead of
elect candidates who will carry out the will of the people.
Twenty two years of voting in Utah and it still is not a fair voting system.
Whether you like Sen. Mike Lee or not you should consider the following. The
delegates almost eliminated him at convention.re: Sen. Bennett in
2010. He was not in the top 2 coming out of convention. In fact the more
moderate of the two, Tim Bridgewater was selected by 57% of the delegates in the
last round of voting by the delegates. If he had received 60% Tim Bridgewater
would have been the party nominee and Mike Lee would have been eliminated.Sen. Bennett endorsed Tim Bridgewater during the primary, but with
voters ticked at TARP and ObamaCare, they went with Mike Lee.Sen.
Mike Lee was the party nominee after the primaryThe Neighborhood
Election and Convention system in Utah is the best way to make sure a grassroots
process can win over large amounts of money. It is the only way someone with
$100,000 can go against someone with $2 million in election funds.We
have a system that that does NOT favor the incumbent, the wealthy or the famous.
This is a good thing, and should be preserved.Adding the Lexus Lane
to the ballot for the rich and famous is not a good thing.
How dare we get rid of the one of thee Republican stablishment candidate without
thier aproval (Bob Bennett)We have to change the entire
election system to ensure that doesn't happen again.The government
and the political parties run this country not the people.Caucus will stay
as is, no compromise or we'll run their sorru behinds out of office.
The more I hear Bennett whine the happier I am that the convention system is in
place. I hope Herbert saves the state some money in a court battle by just
vetoing the bill and allowing private organizations to choose their candidates
as they want. That does sound like a Republican principle.