Published: Friday, March 14 2014 8:40 p.m. MDT
Hey the Hammer - How can you justify your claim that the "Democrats are
terrible at governing?"That's nonsense.Clinton
left GW Bush a prosperous nation with a recent history of balanced budgets, a
nation at peace with strong allies, and a good economy.And GW and
his Republican gang DESTROYED it all.That's Republican
governance for you.
Reagan ran as a Conservative but governed and ruled as a Moderate. Unlike Lee,
he built bridges with the opposition and regularly crossed the aisle to
compromise. That's why Reagan was popular - not because he rigidly adhered
to the ideals of just one party.
I love how people here just cherry pick facts about Reagan for there own
ideological support. Lets see if we can set the record straight on some of
them.1. Reagan -Raised taxes-Democrats like to pull this one out but
neglect to tell how the initial GDP growth that got us out of Jimmy Carters
disaster was because he cut the tax rates and loosened the regulations choke
holds on our industry. The tax raises principally were in the 2nd term of office
when his spending was in defence to make the USSR collapse and bring down the
berlin wall (Something the democrats pathetically tried to give gorbachev the
credit for) Another dirty secret was that the democrats were supposed to pass
some of the pollicies he had been pushing for but Democrats lied and took the
tax raises w/out putting the policies through. Same thing happened with Amnesty.
The deal was that Reagan would leagalize the illegal aliens in our country but
congress was supposed to secure the border at the same time. Again they lied. If
anything this reinforces the need for conservative solutions and reject
democrat/marxist faithlessness(the ends justify the means huh?)
Physician, heal thyself.
Yeah, Mr. Lee, we've heard all this before.When you guys gonna
stop talking and start seeking real solutions?
Democrats' Republicans, answers? All of you must be kidding. Right?
Didn't think so, and now we know why we have problems.
By the standards of today, Reagan was a moderate. He could actually talk and
negotiate with democrats in a reasonable manner. If Reagan was a Utahn, he
wouldn't make it on the ballot because the far right fringe controls
(controlled, he he) accesss to the ballot. We need to govern with sound
principles but we also need to be practical. There is no need to just be an
obstructionist (Mike Lee) to appointees and judges that have been vetted by
other Republicans as good, but you want to obstruct out of spite. Govern out of
principal not out of spite or political games. You can make a point, but
don't shut down the government and hurt millions of people for a losing
fight that damaged the Republican brand (I noticed you didn't do it this
past opportunity, and its a good thing because Republicans would of lost big in
Nov. if they tried that again).
The minute Mike Lee and his "new conservative" partners start talking
they'll start tanking. Mike's future in 2016 looks pretty bleak based
upon his senate record, defaulting personal loans, and possibly the campaign
accusations that were exposed in the Swallow investigation.
Ideas like having campaign contributors buy your house that you can't make
mortgage payments on?I don't think Mike Lee's ideas are
going to win anything other than a quick trip to the slammer. He and Swallow
deserve to go to jail for the laws they've broken. The constitutional
expert needs to abide by the law just like the rest of us.
to 2 bits"Maybe it's time for somebody who's
neither..."I'm ahead of the curve I voted for Gary Johnson.
re: Blue & TolstoyRR would be considered a RINO by
today's GOP. The same GOP who BTW who marginalized Ron Paul & totally
ignored G Johnson.
Ideas? What ideas? If you say you're not hiding them, let's see them!
It's one thing to trumpet that you have ideas, it's another to put
them out there so we can discuss them. So far the only idea I've heard from
Mike Lee is "Obama baaaad, Obama baaad. . . "
Garbo: I find it ironic that given the record of our current president, which
many like yourself, rather than talking about his accomplishments want to point
the finger of blame on someone else for the failures, Reagan stood by his
record! Whether you liked it or not, he stood by his record. The only thing we
here from democrats is the reason why something isn't working. don't
you find that striking? In fact, it is just the opposite now! Even Democrats
are running away from his signature accomplishment, only, again, to point the
finger of blame on the Republicans for something that Obama should be shouting
from the roof tops as his legacy! As for me, both parties have a legacy of
failure that even the most ignorant would be compelled to admit without wonder
as an utter failure of leadership! No one in his right mind, in any country in
the world, would admit that the United States is a model of governance that has
produced citizenship one would attribute to the laws passed by its governing
chambers! instead, it has been a mockery!
His idea is to lose Billions by shutting down the government and this will work
next time? We need a reality based Senate representative and Lee should resign
over tea party tantrum.
It is disingenuous to compare today's conservative movement to the Reagan
conservative movement. This is an uncivilized, mean-spirited,take no prisoners
movement. The Reagan revolution was pragmatic and civilized.There is
no way Reagan would be accepted by today's GOP. Sad...
Let's just set the record straight! I believe that government does not
have any solutions and not only do the democrats have no answers, but it is
their answers that have kept millions in poverty, ruined the free enterprise
system, which is the backbone of this country, and destroyed initiative by
placing millions on the government plantation system. I am not a Republican by
a Long ways, nor do I ascribe to both parties desire for war! I am a part of
the new America that will destroy the welfare state, make the Constitution
something that democrats and republicans don't support because they like
the power that comes along with slavery! I am not an extremist, unless an
extremist is someone who believes in God, family, and country, all of which the
Democratic Party and the Republican Party have forgotten! I am not alone, as
represented by 40 percent of the populous that doesn't align itself with
Republican or Democrat! republicans and Democrats are lazy people who have
forgotten the values of honesty, integrity, and virtue, as evidenced by the
myriad of promises that were just lies to promote party loyalty ! I am the
future, the new American!
Two significant problems with this bipolar editorial: first, we can trace
today's rampant inequality to Reaganomics, which cut taxes on the wealthy
and encouraged a supply-side greedfest that George H.W. Bush labeled "voodoo
economics," and second, the policies Mike Lee suggests will solve our
inequality are the same ones that gave us the inequality in the first place.Mike, welfare does not cause inequality; inequality necessitates
welfare. If you stop getting the cart before the horse, you might begin solving
this devastating problem. Go ahead, take welfare away from some people. They
won't get jobs unless those jobs exist in the first place. And those jobs
don't exist because demand is too low. Demand is too low because the wealth
is going to the top, where little of it is spent on consumable goods and
services.You need to watch the documentary "Inequality for
All" and pay special attention to business tycoon Nick Hanauer, who
understands very well the problems with our economy and doesn't consider
himself a "job creator." He insists that consumer demand is the job
creator and giving him more money will not create a single job.
Seriously? I admit I took the bait and read all the way to the end of the
article looking for Sen. Lee's ideas...nothing. Are these ideas state
secrets? I have an idea...and it's a good idea...and
you're really going to like it...and it's going to lead the party to
victory...but I'm not going to tell you what it is. But it's going to
help the poor, and the middle class and protect us from evil rich people and
corporations...well maybe that's more than one idea...but I'm still
not going to tell you what it is.The Senator has no problem writing
at length to invoke the halo of a past politician, but can't share anything
about the ideas he claims to have. Almost as troubling is that those that
comment spend all their breath debating whether the past politician is worthy of
the praise given to him by Sen. Lee.Try again Senator. But put the
idea up front next time, since as you can imagine, I won't make the mistake
of reading all the way to the end again looking for it.
I like Mike Lee but so far there is no new Republican Party; like the Democrats
they are still too self-seeking, except for some of the so-called Tea Party
congressmen.With the likes of Behner and McConnell and Hatch and the
many other politicians of both parties are deaf to the people we need a thorough
electoral purge, and a Third Party that has as its platform the things that a
majority of the nation want but can get from neither the democrats or
republicans. We need a balanced budget amendment, an end to
constant foreign wars, an enforcement of immigration laws, an end to special
perks for senators and congressmen and presidents, an end to government
snooping, cheaper energy prices, jobs for Americans (legal residents and
citizens), more personal freedom, a government that listens to the people.The Republi- crats don't deliver. I don't see how we can
avoid a Third Party that is truly popular and I hope they draft Mike Lee. He is
one of the few good ones.
Anti-establishment conservatives indicates how radical this extreme segment has
become. Last anti-establishment group was the hippies of the late sixties.
Democrat. Republican. From here there is little difference between the two -
like the days when "Ford" and "Mercury" were the same product
with some difference in surface packaging. Both sides are funded by, and pass
legislation to benefit, the 1% with little regard for the voters they are
supposed to represent. There are many people in Washington I will
vote against, few I will actually vote for and support in any way.
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