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Published: Friday, March 14 2014 8:40 p.m. MDT

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GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey the Hammer - How can you justify your claim that the "Democrats are terrible at governing?"

That's nonsense.

Clinton left GW Bush a prosperous nation with a recent history of balanced budgets, a nation at peace with strong allies, and a good economy.

And GW and his Republican gang DESTROYED it all.

That's Republican governance for you.

UTAH Bill
Salt Lake City, UT

Reagan ran as a Conservative but governed and ruled as a Moderate. Unlike Lee, he built bridges with the opposition and regularly crossed the aisle to compromise. That's why Reagan was popular - not because he rigidly adhered to the ideals of just one party.

liberty or ...?
Ogden, UT

I love how people here just cherry pick facts about Reagan for there own ideological support. Lets see if we can set the record straight on some of them.
1. Reagan -Raised taxes-Democrats like to pull this one out but neglect to tell how the initial GDP growth that got us out of Jimmy Carters disaster was because he cut the tax rates and loosened the regulations choke holds on our industry. The tax raises principally were in the 2nd term of office when his spending was in defence to make the USSR collapse and bring down the berlin wall (Something the democrats pathetically tried to give gorbachev the credit for) Another dirty secret was that the democrats were supposed to pass some of the pollicies he had been pushing for but Democrats lied and took the tax raises w/out putting the policies through. Same thing happened with Amnesty. The deal was that Reagan would leagalize the illegal aliens in our country but congress was supposed to secure the border at the same time. Again they lied. If anything this reinforces the need for conservative solutions and reject democrat/marxist faithlessness(the ends justify the means huh?)

BYR
West Bountiful, UT

Physician, heal thyself.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Yeah, Mr. Lee, we've heard all this before.

When you guys gonna stop talking and start seeking real solutions?

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Democrats' Republicans, answers? All of you must be kidding. Right? Didn't think so, and now we know why we have problems.

cmsense
Kaysville, UT

By the standards of today, Reagan was a moderate. He could actually talk and negotiate with democrats in a reasonable manner. If Reagan was a Utahn, he wouldn't make it on the ballot because the far right fringe controls (controlled, he he) accesss to the ballot. We need to govern with sound principles but we also need to be practical. There is no need to just be an obstructionist (Mike Lee) to appointees and judges that have been vetted by other Republicans as good, but you want to obstruct out of spite. Govern out of principal not out of spite or political games. You can make a point, but don't shut down the government and hurt millions of people for a losing fight that damaged the Republican brand (I noticed you didn't do it this past opportunity, and its a good thing because Republicans would of lost big in Nov. if they tried that again).

FT
salt lake city, UT

The minute Mike Lee and his "new conservative" partners start talking they'll start tanking. Mike's future in 2016 looks pretty bleak based upon his senate record, defaulting personal loans, and possibly the campaign accusations that were exposed in the Swallow investigation.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Ideas like having campaign contributors buy your house that you can't make mortgage payments on?

I don't think Mike Lee's ideas are going to win anything other than a quick trip to the slammer. He and Swallow deserve to go to jail for the laws they've broken. The constitutional expert needs to abide by the law just like the rest of us.

Wally West
SLC, UT

to 2 bits

"Maybe it's time for somebody who's neither..."

I'm ahead of the curve I voted for Gary Johnson.

re: Blue & Tolstoy

RR would be considered a RINO by today's GOP. The same GOP who BTW who marginalized Ron Paul & totally ignored G Johnson.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Ideas? What ideas? If you say you're not hiding them, let's see them! It's one thing to trumpet that you have ideas, it's another to put them out there so we can discuss them. So far the only idea I've heard from Mike Lee is "Obama baaaad, Obama baaad. . . "

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Garbo: I find it ironic that given the record of our current president, which many like yourself, rather than talking about his accomplishments want to point the finger of blame on someone else for the failures, Reagan stood by his record! Whether you liked it or not, he stood by his record. The only thing we here from democrats is the reason why something isn't working. don't you find that striking? In fact, it is just the opposite now! Even Democrats are running away from his signature accomplishment, only, again, to point the finger of blame on the Republicans for something that Obama should be shouting from the roof tops as his legacy! As for me, both parties have a legacy of failure that even the most ignorant would be compelled to admit without wonder as an utter failure of leadership! No one in his right mind, in any country in the world, would admit that the United States is a model of governance that has produced citizenship one would attribute to the laws passed by its governing chambers! instead, it has been a mockery!

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

His idea is to lose Billions by shutting down the government and this will work next time? We need a reality based Senate representative and Lee should resign over tea party tantrum.

dave
Park City, UT

It is disingenuous to compare today's conservative movement to the Reagan conservative movement. This is an uncivilized, mean-spirited,take no prisoners movement. The Reagan revolution was pragmatic and civilized.

There is no way Reagan would be accepted by today's GOP. Sad...

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Let's just set the record straight! I believe that government does not have any solutions and not only do the democrats have no answers, but it is their answers that have kept millions in poverty, ruined the free enterprise system, which is the backbone of this country, and destroyed initiative by placing millions on the government plantation system. I am not a Republican by a Long ways, nor do I ascribe to both parties desire for war! I am a part of the new America that will destroy the welfare state, make the Constitution something that democrats and republicans don't support because they like the power that comes along with slavery! I am not an extremist, unless an extremist is someone who believes in God, family, and country, all of which the Democratic Party and the Republican Party have forgotten! I am not alone, as represented by 40 percent of the populous that doesn't align itself with Republican or Democrat! republicans and Democrats are lazy people who have forgotten the values of honesty, integrity, and virtue, as evidenced by the myriad of promises that were just lies to promote party loyalty ! I am the future, the new American!

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

Two significant problems with this bipolar editorial: first, we can trace today's rampant inequality to Reaganomics, which cut taxes on the wealthy and encouraged a supply-side greedfest that George H.W. Bush labeled "voodoo economics," and second, the policies Mike Lee suggests will solve our inequality are the same ones that gave us the inequality in the first place.

Mike, welfare does not cause inequality; inequality necessitates welfare. If you stop getting the cart before the horse, you might begin solving this devastating problem. Go ahead, take welfare away from some people. They won't get jobs unless those jobs exist in the first place. And those jobs don't exist because demand is too low. Demand is too low because the wealth is going to the top, where little of it is spent on consumable goods and services.

You need to watch the documentary "Inequality for All" and pay special attention to business tycoon Nick Hanauer, who understands very well the problems with our economy and doesn't consider himself a "job creator." He insists that consumer demand is the job creator and giving him more money will not create a single job.

let's roll
LEHI, UT

Seriously? I admit I took the bait and read all the way to the end of the article looking for Sen. Lee's ideas...nothing. Are these ideas state secrets?

I have an idea...and it's a good idea...and you're really going to like it...and it's going to lead the party to victory...but I'm not going to tell you what it is. But it's going to help the poor, and the middle class and protect us from evil rich people and corporations...well maybe that's more than one idea...but I'm still not going to tell you what it is.

The Senator has no problem writing at length to invoke the halo of a past politician, but can't share anything about the ideas he claims to have. Almost as troubling is that those that comment spend all their breath debating whether the past politician is worthy of the praise given to him by Sen. Lee.

Try again Senator. But put the idea up front next time, since as you can imagine, I won't make the mistake of reading all the way to the end again looking for it.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

I like Mike Lee but so far there is no new Republican Party; like the Democrats they are still too self-seeking, except for some of the so-called Tea Party congressmen.

With the likes of Behner and McConnell and Hatch and the many other politicians of both parties are deaf to the people we need a thorough electoral purge, and a Third Party that has as its platform the things that a majority of the nation want but can get from neither the democrats or republicans.

We need a balanced budget amendment, an end to constant foreign wars, an enforcement of immigration laws, an end to special perks for senators and congressmen and presidents, an end to government snooping, cheaper energy prices, jobs for Americans (legal residents and citizens), more personal freedom, a government that listens to the people.

The Republi- crats don't deliver. I don't see how we can avoid a Third Party that is truly popular and I hope they draft Mike Lee. He is one of the few good ones.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Anti-establishment conservatives indicates how radical this extreme segment has become. Last anti-establishment group was the hippies of the late sixties.

Stormwalker
Cleveland , OH

Democrat. Republican. From here there is little difference between the two - like the days when "Ford" and "Mercury" were the same product with some difference in surface packaging. Both sides are funded by, and pass legislation to benefit, the 1% with little regard for the voters they are supposed to represent.

There are many people in Washington I will vote against, few I will actually vote for and support in any way.

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