@imaute...Yep, the utes did have 21 wins... however 9 of those came
in pre-season on the utes home floor against teams that had RPIs in the 200+ and
300+ range (in fact 2 of them aren't even Division 1 games)... Take those
away and that's what you really had... As area 52 correctly said,
"Another wasted season"... lol.
This is how I look at it. I have great respect for the Ute Teams. They have made
great strides this year. LK is doing a great job. He has some good kids in the
program. I want them to succeed. I am also a live and die cougar blue guy. That
is the difference between me and Chris B. I hope Utah is successful. I
would like to see Utah join the Mens Volleyball League. Many in the PAC 12 are
involved and have been for decades. It is the best league in the country. You
can be cannon fodder there also.Jeff
@ stampederusUtah is projected to be a 2 seed in the NIT.
Punched in the mouth would be a major understatement. DES News was being way
too kind.U will be headed to the WCI tourney and will be a #1 seed
No one should enjoy seeing someone take that kind of loss and sooner or later
every team will experience a game where nothing is working. I would love to see
Utah make it into the NIT. I would love to see BYU in the NCAA, but
wouldn't mind one more game between the Cougs and the Utes.
I note with interest that a BYU-Utah match up may develop in the NIT. First of
all, Utah would have to male it to the NIT, which will not happen because of
their cream puff non conference schedule during the exhibition season. A great
confidence builder for the team but not one to impress the selection committee.
I know we are limited to 200 words so I simply refer everyone the the picture.
It speaks 10,000 words.
Utah got blown out by a far superior Arizona team. I watched this classic game
and the speed and defense of the Wildcats really impressed me. Utah was never in
this game. It was similar to a really good junior college team going against a
top ten team and being outmanned in every position. Arizona has the talent to
make it to at least the elite eight and maybe the final four.Utah knows
how much it needs to improve to be competitive next year.It was actually a fun
and interesting game to watch because Arizona played lights out.
Utah added money to the Pac 12 - The Pac 12 didn't want byu and
it had nothing to do with Sunday play.IF Notre Dame had a Sunday
rule and if they wanted to join the Pac 12 - we'd invite them in a
second.We'd work around their sunday issue trust me. The Sunday thing is just the reason byu fans tell themselves.There
are plenty of other reasons we aren't going to invite you to the Pac 12 and
why the big 12 isn't calling either.
20 wins maybe but not against quality teams. The pac needs to move on and get
someone that will not embarrass them on national TV. BYU would represent the
pac well but won't join due to Sunday play. Good for them.
20 wins, one in which the Utes pounded byu. Nuff said.81-64. Nuff said.In the next 2 years byu basketball will not get any more wins than their
football team vs the Utes. Mark it down.
So sad. Where or where did the good old days go in the MWC? Oh,
that's right; it was't the MWC, it was the WAC.Or maybe
not. It must have been the Skyline Conference.Well, that's the
price of getting into the PAC 8, 10 or 12 or whatever it is.Too bad,
A picture speaks a thousand words. Oh well, next year we wll dominate the pac
in both football and basketball. Chris, I will mark it down for you.
71-39. Enough said.
In the immortal words of chris b, "The scoreboard does not lie" or
something like that.I might add that the photo for this article also
does not lie. They must have drank too much of the crimson Kool-Aid, or maybe
they were doing what CB suggested and looked at the scoreboard.
CA. readerRocklin, CAIt appears that the U's basketball team
peaked when they played BYU, a little like their football team. You need to set
your sights a little higher._______________Look no
further than BYU football. No interest in setting their sights a little higher
than prearranged bowl games.
The utes have shown some great improvement but....for a touch of reality it is
important for everyone touting a 20 win season to remember that 9 of those first
wins came against the worst teams in the country and some of them were not even
div 1 teams. Can we really count them as a win? Had they played a
normal preseason schedule with at least 50% of them on the road their record
would have been more like 16 wins. The early cupcake wins will not be rewarded
by selection committees.
I don't believe this game is truly reflective of where the Utes are as a
team right now. It's obvious that great strides have been made over the
teams of the past few years. However, my concern would be if the team started
to believe what the fans are touting. The 21-win season also does not reflect
where this team really is. The PAC12 standings are a more realistic look, a
solid .500 record, not dead last in the league, and actually hung with the big
boys in several games. If I were a Ute fan, I'd have every reason to be
very optimistic about the future, but I would be very cautious about using the
21 wins as an actual measure of success.
To borrow a line from Chris B; "Onward and upward to pac 12 glory". I watched the replay of the game last night and I can say that the utes laid a
huge egg with 8 players with triple singles. The alleged best player in the
state had 5 points and noone was in double figures. Even on a terrible night
Haws gets 16-20 point. The debate as to who is the best player in the state
Sadly they missed the free throws earned from getting 'punched in the
maybe BYU and Utah will meet in the NIT.... put them together in round 1 because
I am afraid if you wait for a later matchup, you will miss it
Wouldn't it be funny if the Utes and the Cougars met in the NIT final? And
everyone who follows college basketball knows this is a possibility if the
Cougars bubble doesn't stay inflated through this Sunday. Now that would
be a game to look forward to watching.
It was a herculean effort by the Utes. Their effort in this game alone, if not
their performance, should qualify them as standard bearers for the conference.
Bachynsky's near triple single and Wright and Loveridge's near double
figures scoring (combined stats) is worthy of note. Coach small k should be
considered for the coach of the tournament award solely on his ability to
motivate the troops in this specific game.There DesNews, tell me how
that is off the topic of an article titled 'utes get punched in the
Cheer up, Ute fans. Your coach K is doing much better with the program than
those last couple of coaches the U had....and your team will be a respected
contender in the Pac next year. As for the Wildcats - this is looking to be a
year where the stars are coming into alignment for them. This time they're
looking to make a serious run at the big trophy - and anything less will be a
let down for them. So take comfort in the fact that your guys lost to a very
good team - one that's got a legit shot at being the national champs.And maybe the Utes will get another shot at BYU in the NIT in a week or
The last few minutes of that game was agony. Watching the Utes rally to end up
with 39 points was a crushing blow that I haven't fully recovered from. To
think . . a few more AZ points or a few fewer Ute points, and Chris B's
integrity would've been tested. Would he have actually stuck to his
self-imposed lifetime D-News ban if they'd lost by at least 36? We'll
never know.The sports gods are cruel indeed. I may never recover
After that performance, the Utes are a shoo in for the Big Dance.
Look, I'm not trying to rub salt in the wound, but for those of you looking
for a bright spot in the Ute season by pointing out they won 21 games this year,
I think you need to reflect on your non-conference schedule before making that
pronouncement. The Utes played some good games this year, got some good wins,
and almost got some great wins. Overall, I think the program is headed in the
right direction. But a 21 win season doesn't mean much with the Ute's
Well, I was feeling bad after my Cougs lost. But, now,I'm feeling like the
world is still in perfect balance. Losing and coming back a bit is nice.
And BYU has some real issues to figure out. Rose needs to understand that one
and done every year in the tourney ain't cutting it for most fans.But seeing Utah get schlacked-creamed-whooped-pummeled, well, it make a bad
day for a Ute fan, but a glorious day for a Coug! Go....uh...anyone playing
This game is hardly a reflection of the entire season. The Utes improved
tremendously--I would have never predicted that they would win 20 games after
last year.As for Chris B.--I hope you learn a lesson. Win and lose
graciously. Glad to have you as a fan of the Utes, but don't embarrass the
Ute Nation by posting comments on BYU games. Eating crow is a dish most would
avoid. Not sure if BYU will make it to the dance, but they have been in the
conversation for several weeks and everyone has them on the bubble. The Utes
diid outplay them in December but that was one game (not a season). I would trade the BYU win for a trip to the tournament.
Hey Copacetic, go check the comments before mine. I never jump on and bash the
Cougar articles. Really, one statement? More like 6 or 7 of the first page.
I've said before that Chris B. is a bit much, but some of us like to just
cheer for the Utes, and keep it fairly positive and civil. BYU fans seem to
accuse Ute fans of always commenting on their articles, but it seems like it
goes both ways. I don't think I was "overly" dramatic, "get
real"? Good season Utes. Tough one for the Aggies today also. Weird how
some games you just come out flat. Kind of my point of the prior post. Cougar
fan in Logan? Seems like a contradiction.
I said before the season started that this Arizona team has the most complete
starting five in the nation. Losing Ashley in the middle of the season was a
small hiccup for them, but they've put it back together since then.
McConnell, while probably not an NBA talent, is a quintessential smart,
unselfish college point guard. Nick Johnson is the conference POY for a reason,
he can play the 1-3 positions seamlessly. Hollis-Jefferson is as athletic a wing
as any in the country. Gordon may be the next Blake Griffin in the NBA, and
Tarczewski is a prototype big man that got a lot more athletic this year in
addition to his size. Their depth is a little suspect, but they're playing
much better of late. IMO they'll be the odds on favorite in the NCAA.WildcatFan, congrats on the win. Good luck to the Cats tomorrow and in
the next few weeks!
Best thing the team can do is throw this tape away and move on. I don't
suspect this group would ever play this poorly again unless they remembered they
actually had before. Half-court defense wasn't half bad, but as soon as
they started turning the ball over, UA's transition is just too good for
about any team to stop.
I know this wasn't Utah's best day by a long shot. You guys gave us
more fits this year than anyone else and you are most definitely on the right
track. I hope you take the NIT to finish off this year, you deserve to end
well. I also think you will be in the top tier next year with this team back,
along with your new class. I am happy to get the win, of course, but I'm
hoping you get to celebrate as a postseason success story before it all gets
I feel your pain, Utah fans.Sometimes your team goes out and lays an
egg.BYU did against Gonzaga and Utah did against a red hot Arizona
I feel bad and disappointed for the Utes, but I feel even worse for Chris B. I
have a feeling his vacation is turning into a nightmare he didn't expect.
I must admit I didn't expect what happened either as I totally believed
they were much better than what I saw today. Too bad!
UteologyEast Salt Lake City, Utah@CougarSunDevilDN
should approach this with the "glass is half full" approach. I would
title the article "Utah misses PAC-12 Championship game by two games by
losing to Arizona in their PAC-12 record setting performance."At
least BYU made it interesting in the second half of the Gonzaga game.-------------Good for them, because they certainly didn't do
in the second half of the Utah game. Well that is until we showed mercy at the
end:2nd Half - 1:26 Utah 77 - 55 Go ahead and pump your chest
since the last time utah beat byu in a basketball game on either court was in
2007,but apparently you were either not born then or just chose to have
if someone had of told me at the first of the season that we would have 20 wins
and wins over byu, ucla, ASU, Cal and play the other teams close...and MAYBE go
to the NIT...I would have questioned that...but most of it happened.Today was a disaster...and the only silver lining is that Young probabaly hurt
himself in the draft so he should come back, unless he likes Europe. Loveridge
needs to work in the off season or he will be taken over by youngsters next
year. Big improvements this year...I am happy...was sickened by the
performance today but one game does not a season make...Go Utes...
William, please. That nonsense is ridiculous. Look at the horrible comments
after BYU loses. Those are 5 year old comments by your precious kids....er
people. Utah got demolished, sent to the woodshed....of course the rival is
going to laugh at that. BYU made it to the final and only lost by 11. Utah
gets annihilated in their second game.
I wouldn't read too much into this one game, but it is a good measuring
stick on how far the U has to go to truly be a top echelon team in the PAC-12.
Utah can be justifiably proud of the progress they've made this
year and if Wright stays they should be better next year. And if they continue
to play good solid defense, they'll be able to stay in most games.That said, most PAC-12 teams look past the U and thus don't play their
best against them (though the defense does have a lot to do with that). As the
U continues to improve and is viewed as more of a threat in the league, they
will get the attention of contending teams in the conference and beating those
teams will be even more difficult.The good news is that only small
incremental improvement will have its rewards. In a conference that will likely
continue to get 5 to 7 teams into the tournament, a tournament birth next year
may be within reach.Best of luck to the team.
Takes the sting out of the Gonzaga loss.
@CougarSunDevilI love the Ute fans bragging about the Utah win over
BYU because it only shows how relevant BYU is still to Utah. -------------And here you are bragging about your rival's big
win over Utah. Assuming you are a ASU fan, which would imply that your rival is
Arizona.I can't ever recall bragging about BYU's big win
on some other teams thread.
It appears that the U's basketball team peaked when they played BYU, a
little like their football team. You need to set your sights a little higher.
@CougarSunDevilDN should approach this with the "glass is half
full" approach. I would title the article "Utah misses PAC-12
Championship game by two games by losing to Arizona in their PAC-12 record
setting performance."At least BYU made it interesting in the
second half of the Gonzaga game.-------------Good for
them, because they certainly didn't do in the second half of the Utah game.
Well that is until we showed mercy at the end:2nd Half - 1:26 Utah
77 - 55
As a Cougar fan (and a UA grad to boot) I want to congratulate the Utes on an
excellent season, and doing much better than last year. Looking at statistics,
there is variation in performance every game. Sometimes you combine one of your
poor performances with another teams best performance, and perhaps this happened
for you today. Better luck in the NIT, and be happy for the good times you had
The ONLY good thing about this game is that we don't have to listen to
Chris B. spew!!
To 99% of Utah fans..it was a tough loss. As some of you say, sometimes your
team just comes out a lays an egg...like BYU did against Utah this year. It
happens to all teams and it happened to Utah today. I love the progress Coach K
is making with Utah and I cheer for all teams from Utah. So congrats on a 20+
win season. Coach Rose is a great coach and a wonderful role model to all. We
are lucky to have great coaches leading our teams.Utah has a bright
future and I wish them well. I simply do not understand all the disrespect on
both sides of what used to be a rivalry. Any objective fan on either side
would have to see that BYU or Utah would struggle a LOT vs the Pac12 until such
time as the obvious recruiting advantages kicked in. The biggest mistake the
Pac12 made was not packaging BYU and Utah together. That would have made things
very fun for years to come. Oh well. Most know why that didn't happen.
Chirs B?? ... Silence, beautiful silence.
By the way that was Chris B saying he would never post on another story if the
utes lost by 36. 4 more points!
Brutal game, GREAT SEASON.I was disappointed that the team
didn't compete, but given their youth, I would expect them to grow and put
the work in so that doesn't happen again.Congrats to Coach K,
his staff and the team for building a product I as a huge Ute fan am very proud
of, and very excited about the future.Go UTES!!
@ William Wallace:Get real. Literally one guy mentioned the overall
record between Utah and BYU over the last decade or so and you respond with
"Once again, the 12 year old like comments come pouring out of Cougar
nation." Wow. That's really "pouring" it on. What a total
exaggeration and funny way of trying to deflect from that total embarrassing
blowout loss today!OK. Forget that single 12 year comment from
"Cougar Nation" and simply tell us when was the last time the Utes beat
BYU in any game away from the Huntsman Center, and/or what Utah's record is
against Dave Rose's teams.
let's see, if we could describe Utah's loss to Arizona with a movie
title... would it be Delta Farce, Say Uncle, Defenseless or Lemony
Snicket's a series of unfortunate events?
So close! This thread came from another story about the utes. I quote:"worf,If Utah loses by as much as you say I'll
never post on a single des news article for the rest of my lifeUtah
has a very good chance at winning.And then we'll be dancing.And guess what? If we get in we could be the team that bounces byu
OUT.LOL"Worf predicted utah would lose by 36. He
was so close. 4 more points!
Its great to see the progress made up at the U the last couple of years. Coach
K has them on a great path. This is just a loss along the way. Better days
I had noticed this morning that Lundardi actually had Utah knocking on the door
of the NCAA tournament. So I was curious to see how they performed against
Arizona today. Even with a loss, a competitive game could have potentially
moved them up a bit closer to getting a bid.This is not what they
needed. Bad time to fall flat on your faces, Utes, since we all know you
couldn't afford it.Good luck in the NIT. You might just see
BYU there as well, since it seems the prognosticators are over-blowing the
Collinsworth injury. Might the selection committee over-emphasize it as well?
How come Chris B is nowhere to be found? Maybe it has something to do with
another one of his infamous "mark it down" predictions. Besides
predicting the wrong winner, this latest one was off by only 35 points in his
predicted point spread. And Utah was only 29 points short of his predicted score
for them. And to think some Ute fans were making fun of BYU's
loss loss the other night. What goes around comes around. And sometimes at an
even worse level.
After all the pre-game hype from the loudest elements of the crimson crew--aided
and abetted by Coach K (as in a baseball term)--I was amazed at the
disappearance of "the two best players in Utah," and the totally lost
looks on the Utah players and coaches as they endured this beat down.Contrary to what some have suggested the Utes were beat 2 minutes into the
second-half. If you can re-run it pay close attention to their body language,
even ignoring their facial tells.Hope they can fix-the-wreck before
the NIT calls. Perhaps they can match BYU's final four in the NIT of last
year. Good luck, Utes!
Congrats Utah on a turnaround season. Should be a great game Provo next year. Go
@Eddie"They can't say, " wait til next year"! Because
next year will be just as bad if not worse."They return almost
everyone and they have a top 40 recruiting class coming in while they've
made massive gains the past two years under Krystkowiak. The most logical
assumption is that they'll be better next year.
Once again, the 12 year old like comments come pouring out of Cougar nation.
Some games you just flat get blown out. Nothing to explain. Sports are funny
that way. To those who are saying it's a wasted year, well, I have to
disagree. I think the program is in good shape, with good things on the
horizon. Other than Chris B., who said the Ute program had arrived. It's
a work in progress, and I like what has happened the last two years. I really
like the guys coming back. This coaching staff is starting to put the pieces
together. Thanks for a great year, and good luck in the NIT. I will be
supporting you just like always.
ImaUteFanWest Jordan, UTArea52 - I wouldn't call this a
wasted year. The Utes have 21 wins (the first 20 win season since 2008-09) and
they will likely be heading to the NIT tournament.Oh, and there was
that 81 - 64 win.OH and what about all the BYUwins over utah since 2007 the
cougars own u in bsasketball but as most utes you cant see past your crimson
@ImaUteFanBe careful about bringing out the 81-64 because we can
respond asking you what the record between the two teams is for the past decade?
The following list of teams scored more points against Arizona than Utah just
did. Cal PolyLong Beach StateFair Dickinson (not sure
which division they're in)Rhode IslandDrexelNew Mexico
StateSouthernNorthern ArizonaQuite the company to be in.
Ok, Ute fans don't get upset. I'm just playing around with you guys.
You're team was a lot better this year. Something to build on. I love the
Ute fans bragging about the Utah win over BYU because it only shows how relevant
BYU is still to Utah. If BYU was so inferior, it wouldn't constantly be
brought up. Good luck in the NIT, I can see you going pretty far as
long as this loss doesn't demoralize your team. I don't think it will.
Arizona is #4 for a reason.
What is it with Utah Men's basketball teams (USU/UU/BYU) who all fell
totally flat in the first half of their tourney games? Is is lack of
preparation or fatigue? Nonetheless, congrats to all Utah teams for
excellent seasons. Hopefully at least three Utah teams will make the Big
Dance-Weber/UVU/BYU. Bottom line: kudos to coach K and his running
Utes for a vast improvement over the last three years. 20+ wins is an amazing
feat. And hopefully a long run in the NIT.
Utes made a huge improvement this year over last. Let's hope they keep
Area52 - I wouldn't call this a wasted year. The Utes have 21 wins (the
first 20 win season since 2008-09) and they will likely be heading to the NIT
tournament.Oh, and there was that 81 - 64 win.
That was embarrassing to watch - nothing good whatsoever came from that 2 hours
of my life.@CougarsundevilThat was funny - well done.I am glad however to see the improvement going on up at the U. I think
both BYU and UofU basketball are going to be fun to watch over the next few
years - people (fans) forget that college sports is cyclical. You have good
recruiting classes some years and then other years not so good. I
for one am excited to watch over the next 3-5 years cause there's gonna be
some good basketball played in the state of Utah!
Half a game and they can only score 13 points? That is a record that will be
remembered for a long, long time. And the bad thing about it is that the Utes
can do nothing about it! They can't say, " wait til next year"!
Because next year will be just as bad if not worse.
Utah didn't have a chance in this game. Looks like another wasted year!
Ouch!! That one hurts. I think was the only game this year that my Utes have
been totally blown out. Like I said, they needed to play better in this one
than they did against Washington, but I guess they didn't get the message.
Hopefully they can regroup for some wins in the NIT.
I thought BYU's loss to Gonzaga was bad. Arizona's superiority to
Gonzaga doesn't quite explain a 32 point loss, and it really wasn't
even that close. Oh well, by making it to 39 points I guess we can consider the
game a success after only scoring 13 in the first half - another round of
stickers for everyone, its on me.
DN should approach this with the "glass is half full" approach. I would
title the article "Utah misses PAC-12 Championship game by two games by
losing to Arizona in their PAC-12 record setting performance." At least BYU made it interesting in the second half of the Gonzaga game.
Glad I thought the game was later so I could miss this mess.