It hasn't been that long since presidential candidates thought that it was
beneath their dignity to campaign for office at all. They stayed home and let
their party machines do the actual work of electing a president. We
can all hope for those more dignified times to return, but they won't.
Yes I watched the piece, and Obama was master of the situation. He has a sense
of humor, which is essential dealing with the attacks launched against him.
I've seen two "comedic" performances of late by politicos - Obama
and Ann Colter. One from the slightly left of center - Obama and one from the
right - Colter. Both were funny, but Obama was in much better taste, and he was
self-deprecating. Colter on the other hand was acid-tongued and took herself
all to seriously - self-deprecating never. I came away from Obama felling
pretty good. I came away from Colter angry. Obama was the better performance.
And no, Jay, I don't think he did the office any harm at all.
This is in keeping of the Obama model. Blame someone else. Anybody!
Obama really does look desperate. His signature accomplishment is smashing up on
the actuarial tables. The problem is that young people can do math. They know
that the costs of Obamacare are meant to be born on their backs, and that
it's a bad deal for them. So he desperately tries to sell them on this
messed-up plan, and they're not falling for it.Obamacare
can't be implemented in any election year, because it turns off voters. He
keeps unilaterally postponing key measures in the law, but he can't keep
this up forever. The American people eventually are going to "find out
what's in it."
I thought Obama was pretty quick, and funny, on the show. Plus it caused tens
of thousands of hits for healthcare.gov.
@ mohokat, blame? Obama isn't blaming anyone for anything. You attack the
President for something he didn't do. Mountanman, you do the same. I thought the Two Ferns bit was funny. There is nothing wrong with
reaching out to the target audience (it was a big success), and showing a sense
of humor, particularly in the context of the times. Right wing, chill out.
Esquire. Obama hasn't blamed anyone for his failures? Where have you been?
That is all he does is blame the GOP, GWB, coal, phony scandals or whatever else
he thinks he can deflect his failures on! There is not a "smidgeon of
corruption" in his administration is there, and if there is, its all someone
The sad irony of this is that Obama is much better at being a toast master, talk
show guest, deliverer of funny lines, reading a script ect. than he is at being
President. And, because he is good as a pop culture figure, he got elected.
Hopefully America will not make that kind of mistake again.P.S. At
the Al Smith dinner, Romney was much funnier than Obama. Guess he had better
writers for that one.
@esquireThe lead to the story is blame Nixon. The word blame is
Obama's biggest excuse for his failures which are to numerous to mention.
But you and your ilk keep running interference for the failure that is known as
@liberal larryHow many of those web hits actually resulted in the
purchase of insurance? The Obama administration will not release this number.
Believe me, if the news was good for them, they'd be telling us.
@Mohokat "The word blame is Obama's biggest excuse for his failures
which are to numerous to mention." If you love American capitalism you
should venerate Obama. The actions of his administration prevented a complete
collapse of the economy. So I say thank you President Obama since you, mohokat,
likely won't. That said, the administration saved the economy by pumping
life into the top - the big banks and insurance companies - hoping for trickle
down to the troops below. The troops are still waiting in large part. We
needed, and need, a lot more New Deal from Obama. We aren't likely to get
@ mohokat, surely you jest. The blame thing is your own invention. The writer
of the story brings up the issue as to Nixon, and you attribute blaming to
Obama. Pretzels have fewer twists and turns than this logic. And Thid, as soon
as the Republicans take responsibility for the 2008 recession and its resulting
deficit and other problems, then we can have a civil discussion about other
things. What I've seen the GOP do is leave a huge mess, and then blame the
next guy, complaining that he didn't clean it up fast enough. Take
responsibility for your actions, then you have a position of credibility. Until
then, you don't. (By the way, every major recession in the last 100 years
has happened under Republican Administrations. Isn't that interesting?)
Esquire. You forgot the Jimmy Carter recession! Wasn't that one
Marxist and EsquireDon't you realize that the 2008 collapse was
the result of many years of mistakes by both the Bush and especially Clinton
administrations? In fact the record shows Bush tried to do some reforms to
Fannie and Freddie, but the Dems controlling Congress would have nothing of it,
(especially Barney Frank who laughingly said that all was well) and the
Republicans when they controlled Congress pretty much punted too. You
can't just say Bush and the GOP did it all by their lonesome. And every
major recession in the last 100 years has ended long before this one. So, this
is now Obamas recession, and he is a Democrat. And, I could have ended this
recession if I had been given 7 trillion dollars to work with. What happened?
It's not the Republicans fault that 7 trillion of added debt in 5 years has
been spent and we are still in a recession. Which answers why Marxist idea of
more New Deal is not going to work. Something is very wrong in current
Washington D.C. policy, and it ain't because of a few T-Party folks.
Nate"...His signature accomplishment is smashing up on the
actuarial tables. The problem is that young people can do math. They know that
... Obamacare, ... it's a bad deal for them."This why we
need Common Core, so young people will no longer be able to do the math, and
liberals can reign through lies.Obama does great, as long as
everyone around him loves every word that comes out of his mouth. It
is when someone thinks Obama is wrong, or disagrees with him on any issue, that
he turns snide, vicious, or pouts. I don't think he has ever listened to
any different point of view. If he faces someone who disagrees with him, he runs
for the press to validate him.I wonder who told him he was wrong,
and made him go running to this 'comedy' show for self-validation?
While this has, predictably, digressed into a dump on Obama comment section, I
think it's important to go back to the original story. The president
appeared on what was supposed to be a funny show; it was the first time
I've ever seen it. And it's terrible. The president should have bailed
on that one.
The Two Ferns show was delightful, classic satire. Loved it.
Polls consistently show that people who are the most informed about the ACA are
the most in favor of it.The approval rating is over 50% if you poll
most of the components of the ACA, especially if you don't tell people they
are parts of the dreaded "Obamacare!"There was huge
opposition to Social Security, and Medicare by the conservative right, now
Republicans run on supporting these programs. In 10 years it will be the same
situation with the Affordable Care Act, who's general outlines where
dreamed up by the ultra conservative Heritage Foundation.
marxist: "I came away from Obama felling [sic] pretty good. I came away from
Colter [sic] angry."Which means that for normal Americans (i.e.
those who are not Marxists, Maoist, Communists, Socialists, Liberals,
Progressives, etc.), the reaction would be exactly opposite.Jay has
it nailed it. Obama's constituency is blissfully uniformed, lost in world
of crass and obscene entertainment. And the only way reach them is to debase
yourself and your office, pull off the man-hole cover and descend into their
world. Increasingly, elections will be won and lost - not by the strength of
your ideas or your character - but by your eagerness to swim in the cesspool.
Just par for the course. POTUS and FLOTUS are obsessed with the banal celebrity
worship that is so prevalent among the uninformed (give the people bread,
entertainment (sports) and a corrupt government can do any thing they want).
Europe and the middle east on fire, Americans suffering with low employment and
rising debt - and the "King and Queen" of America golf, lavish parties
and vacations without the slightest hint of holding back.The Jimmy
Fallon "Ew" "comedy" segement with FLOTUS was pretty pathetic
and demeaning - bizarre to say the least.
Much ado about nothing. It was a mildly funny show, in no way inappropriate,
and it may have helped some young adults to sign up for healthcare, which is
good for everyone.Must everything Obama does generate outrage?
This character is very comfortable on comedy shows...much more so that in front
off congress or having to actually govern. What a joke. The office of the
President is a laughing stock to the country and world thanks to the entertainer
@SCfan"So, this is now Obamas recession"We've
gained private sector jobs over 50 consecutive months in a row and been
officially out of a recession for over 3 years.@Harrison Bergeron"Obama's constituency is blissfully uniformed, lost in world of crass
and obscene entertainment. "As opposed to the side that thinks
tax cuts increase revenue ?(we could cut taxes and have so much left over money
we could start some wars... how'd that work out for Bush's budgets?).
Unlike the writer, it was funny as well as classic satire. The comments to the
opposite just add to the humor.
Obama loves poor people so much that he makes more of them everyday!
Actually Nixon had already been elected when he did that appearance. Roger Ailes
was in charge of Nixon's 1968 "makeover," so I guess we can blame
him. If that name sounds familiar he is also the one who create Fox News and is
still President of Fox Broadcasting.
#Bergeron "Obama's constituency is blissfully uniformed, lost in world
of crass and obscene entertainment." I assume you think I am part of
Obama's constituency. I'm not. I'm a Marxist. He's a
liberal Democrat. But I feel the need to defend Obama, as he has rendered
valuable public service in keeping the unstable American economy running. To get
back to the two political entertainers I mentioned - Obama and Colter. I
challenge you to find one thing in Obama's act which was obscene. It was
good clean fun, and yes funny (does this drive you nuts?). Colter's acidic
cracks about Christie's weight, Bush I, and the looks of various
personalities were at the very least mean, and maybe obscene. If you like
Colter you are no judge of talent, sir.
@ MarxistIn the immortal words of Col. Sherman T. Potter, Horse
"Low-information voters trend younger and are more likely to be unmarried.
They typically remain at least nominally ‘undecided’ until the
bitter end, and generally do not read or watch extensive political or news
coverage. They may care about economic issues in theory, but the tax rate
doesn’t impact their day-to-day existence....'Democrats
– Barack Obama in particular – go after these voters with gusto. The
2008 Obama campaign broke ground by advertising on Xbox video games, prompting
thousands of stoners to get off the couch and out to the polls. In 2012, when
young women visited a beauty blog, they were likely greeted with video ads of
Eva Longoria or Scarlett Johansson telling them Obama was fabulous. And lest we
forget the infamous ad where Girls star Lena Dunham invited her fellow young
women to make their “first time” special with Barack Obama." -The Hill
marxist: "To get back to the two political entertainers I mentioned - Obama
and Colter [sic]."Sadly your characterization is accurate. But
only one is supposed to be an entertainer, the other is supposed to be a
re:vern001This guy is "supposed" to be the President of the
United States for heaven sake. That title used to carry respect and dignity - no
more thanks to your community organizer / entertainer n chief. The man is an
embarrassment to the United States. When you think of the great men like John
Kennedy and Ronald Reagan who inspired so many and led the free world against
Communist aggression and then you see this little clown on every late night
comedy and entertainment show on the networks ...on a regular and repeating
basis ...you get the idea that this is a non-serious guy who was elected by an
uniformed and non-serious public and then the sharp decline taking place of this
once great country makes total sense.
George Bush's completely unintentional comedy was far worse. Or better,
depending on what you laugh at.
The bit was funny.And agreed, the comments from the rabid Obama haters, --
makes it even funnier!
"If you love American capitalism you should venerate Obama. The actions of
his administration prevented a complete collapse of the economy."Yeah, and the actions of Neville Chamberlain prevented a second world war. Oh
wait, it didn't!Actually, that's probably not the best
comparison. After all, Chamberlain's actions probably didn't make
things any worse, unlike Obama's actions which did.@Schnee"As opposed to the side that thinks tax cuts increase revenue ?(we
could cut taxes and have so much left over money we could start some wars...
how'd that work out for Bush's budgets?)."Interesting
comment. First of all, research shows that increasing taxes hurts the economy,
which will then hurt government revenue. Lowering taxes helps the economy, which
benefits government revenue. And talking about Bush's budget and the wars,
have you ever wondered how Bush could have had so much money to start 2 wars AND
still have added LESS debt than Obama did? Wow! Obama's policies must be
absolutely terrible if in the short span of 3 years and 2 months he added MORE
to the debt than Bush did in all 8 years with 2 wars!
Appearing that sketch was a smart move on Obama's part.It's had a lot of you tube hits, and that means he's getting the
message out.If it works, do it . . . and who cares what Right Wing
naysayers have to say about it?
Hutterite, not often do I agree with you, but in this instance, 100%.