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Jay Evensen: Obama's comedy appearance — let's blame Nixon

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  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 13, 2014 12:09 a.m.

    It hasn't been that long since presidential candidates thought that it was beneath their dignity to campaign for office at all. They stayed home and let their party machines do the actual work of electing a president.

    We can all hope for those more dignified times to return, but they won't.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2014 12:58 a.m.

    Yes I watched the piece, and Obama was master of the situation. He has a sense of humor, which is essential dealing with the attacks launched against him. I've seen two "comedic" performances of late by politicos - Obama and Ann Colter. One from the slightly left of center - Obama and one from the right - Colter. Both were funny, but Obama was in much better taste, and he was self-deprecating. Colter on the other hand was acid-tongued and took herself all to seriously - self-deprecating never. I came away from Obama felling pretty good. I came away from Colter angry. Obama was the better performance. And no, Jay, I don't think he did the office any harm at all.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 13, 2014 5:49 a.m.

    This is in keeping of the Obama model. Blame someone else. Anybody!

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 13, 2014 7:48 a.m.

    Obama really does look desperate. His signature accomplishment is smashing up on the actuarial tables. The problem is that young people can do math. They know that the costs of Obamacare are meant to be born on their backs, and that it's a bad deal for them. So he desperately tries to sell them on this messed-up plan, and they're not falling for it.

    Obamacare can't be implemented in any election year, because it turns off voters. He keeps unilaterally postponing key measures in the law, but he can't keep this up forever. The American people eventually are going to "find out what's in it."

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    March 13, 2014 8:03 a.m.

    I thought Obama was pretty quick, and funny, on the show. Plus it caused tens of thousands of hits for healthcare.gov.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 13, 2014 8:14 a.m.

    @ mohokat, blame? Obama isn't blaming anyone for anything. You attack the President for something he didn't do. Mountanman, you do the same.

    I thought the Two Ferns bit was funny. There is nothing wrong with reaching out to the target audience (it was a big success), and showing a sense of humor, particularly in the context of the times. Right wing, chill out.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    March 13, 2014 8:21 a.m.

    Esquire. Obama hasn't blamed anyone for his failures? Where have you been? That is all he does is blame the GOP, GWB, coal, phony scandals or whatever else he thinks he can deflect his failures on! There is not a "smidgeon of corruption" in his administration is there, and if there is, its all someone else's fault!

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    March 13, 2014 8:24 a.m.

    The sad irony of this is that Obama is much better at being a toast master, talk show guest, deliverer of funny lines, reading a script ect. than he is at being President. And, because he is good as a pop culture figure, he got elected. Hopefully America will not make that kind of mistake again.

    P.S. At the Al Smith dinner, Romney was much funnier than Obama. Guess he had better writers for that one.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 13, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    @esquire

    The lead to the story is blame Nixon. The word blame is Obama's biggest excuse for his failures which are to numerous to mention. But you and your ilk keep running interference for the failure that is known as Obama!

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 13, 2014 8:41 a.m.

    @liberal larry

    How many of those web hits actually resulted in the purchase of insurance? The Obama administration will not release this number. Believe me, if the news was good for them, they'd be telling us.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2014 8:53 a.m.

    @Mohokat "The word blame is Obama's biggest excuse for his failures which are to numerous to mention." If you love American capitalism you should venerate Obama. The actions of his administration prevented a complete collapse of the economy. So I say thank you President Obama since you, mohokat, likely won't. That said, the administration saved the economy by pumping life into the top - the big banks and insurance companies - hoping for trickle down to the troops below. The troops are still waiting in large part. We needed, and need, a lot more New Deal from Obama. We aren't likely to get it.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 13, 2014 9:00 a.m.

    @ mohokat, surely you jest. The blame thing is your own invention. The writer of the story brings up the issue as to Nixon, and you attribute blaming to Obama. Pretzels have fewer twists and turns than this logic. And Thid, as soon as the Republicans take responsibility for the 2008 recession and its resulting deficit and other problems, then we can have a civil discussion about other things. What I've seen the GOP do is leave a huge mess, and then blame the next guy, complaining that he didn't clean it up fast enough. Take responsibility for your actions, then you have a position of credibility. Until then, you don't. (By the way, every major recession in the last 100 years has happened under Republican Administrations. Isn't that interesting?)

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    March 13, 2014 9:35 a.m.

    Esquire. You forgot the Jimmy Carter recession! Wasn't that one interesting?

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    March 13, 2014 9:52 a.m.

    Marxist and Esquire

    Don't you realize that the 2008 collapse was the result of many years of mistakes by both the Bush and especially Clinton administrations? In fact the record shows Bush tried to do some reforms to Fannie and Freddie, but the Dems controlling Congress would have nothing of it, (especially Barney Frank who laughingly said that all was well) and the Republicans when they controlled Congress pretty much punted too. You can't just say Bush and the GOP did it all by their lonesome. And every major recession in the last 100 years has ended long before this one. So, this is now Obamas recession, and he is a Democrat. And, I could have ended this recession if I had been given 7 trillion dollars to work with. What happened? It's not the Republicans fault that 7 trillion of added debt in 5 years has been spent and we are still in a recession. Which answers why Marxist idea of more New Deal is not going to work. Something is very wrong in current Washington D.C. policy, and it ain't because of a few T-Party folks.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    March 13, 2014 9:58 a.m.

    Nate

    "...His signature accomplishment is smashing up on the actuarial tables. The problem is that young people can do math. They know that ... Obamacare, ... it's a bad deal for them."

    This why we need Common Core, so young people will no longer be able to do the math, and liberals can reign through lies.

    Obama does great, as long as everyone around him loves every word that comes out of his mouth.

    It is when someone thinks Obama is wrong, or disagrees with him on any issue, that he turns snide, vicious, or pouts. I don't think he has ever listened to any different point of view. If he faces someone who disagrees with him, he runs for the press to validate him.

    I wonder who told him he was wrong, and made him go running to this 'comedy' show for self-validation?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 13, 2014 10:29 a.m.

    While this has, predictably, digressed into a dump on Obama comment section, I think it's important to go back to the original story. The president appeared on what was supposed to be a funny show; it was the first time I've ever seen it. And it's terrible. The president should have bailed on that one.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    March 13, 2014 10:48 a.m.

    The Two Ferns show was delightful, classic satire. Loved it.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    March 13, 2014 10:49 a.m.

    Polls consistently show that people who are the most informed about the ACA are the most in favor of it.

    The approval rating is over 50% if you poll most of the components of the ACA, especially if you don't tell people they are parts of the dreaded "Obamacare!"

    There was huge opposition to Social Security, and Medicare by the conservative right, now Republicans run on supporting these programs. In 10 years it will be the same situation with the Affordable Care Act, who's general outlines where dreamed up by the ultra conservative Heritage Foundation.

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    March 13, 2014 11:26 a.m.

    marxist: "I came away from Obama felling [sic] pretty good. I came away from Colter [sic] angry."

    Which means that for normal Americans (i.e. those who are not Marxists, Maoist, Communists, Socialists, Liberals, Progressives, etc.), the reaction would be exactly opposite.

    Jay has it nailed it. Obama's constituency is blissfully uniformed, lost in world of crass and obscene entertainment. And the only way reach them is to debase yourself and your office, pull off the man-hole cover and descend into their world. Increasingly, elections will be won and lost - not by the strength of your ideas or your character - but by your eagerness to swim in the cesspool.

  • el steve o Herriman, UT
    March 13, 2014 12:07 p.m.

    Just par for the course. POTUS and FLOTUS are obsessed with the banal celebrity worship that is so prevalent among the uninformed (give the people bread, entertainment (sports) and a corrupt government can do any thing they want). Europe and the middle east on fire, Americans suffering with low employment and rising debt - and the "King and Queen" of America golf, lavish parties and vacations without the slightest hint of holding back.

    The Jimmy Fallon "Ew" "comedy" segement with FLOTUS was pretty pathetic and demeaning - bizarre to say the least.

  • vern001 Castle Rock, CO
    March 13, 2014 12:41 p.m.

    Much ado about nothing. It was a mildly funny show, in no way inappropriate, and it may have helped some young adults to sign up for healthcare, which is good for everyone.

    Must everything Obama does generate outrage? Chill out!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 13, 2014 12:56 p.m.

    This character is very comfortable on comedy shows...much more so that in front off congress or having to actually govern. What a joke. The office of the President is a laughing stock to the country and world thanks to the entertainer and chief.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2014 2:47 p.m.

    @SCfan
    "So, this is now Obamas recession"

    We've gained private sector jobs over 50 consecutive months in a row and been officially out of a recession for over 3 years.

    @Harrison Bergeron
    "Obama's constituency is blissfully uniformed, lost in world of crass and obscene entertainment. "

    As opposed to the side that thinks tax cuts increase revenue ?(we could cut taxes and have so much left over money we could start some wars... how'd that work out for Bush's budgets?).

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    Unlike the writer, it was funny as well as classic satire. The comments to the opposite just add to the humor.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2014 3:29 p.m.

    Obama loves poor people so much that he makes more of them everyday!

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    March 13, 2014 4:15 p.m.

    Actually Nixon had already been elected when he did that appearance. Roger Ailes was in charge of Nixon's 1968 "makeover," so I guess we can blame him. If that name sounds familiar he is also the one who create Fox News and is still President of Fox Broadcasting.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 13, 2014 5:06 p.m.

    #Bergeron "Obama's constituency is blissfully uniformed, lost in world of crass and obscene entertainment." I assume you think I am part of Obama's constituency. I'm not. I'm a Marxist. He's a liberal Democrat. But I feel the need to defend Obama, as he has rendered valuable public service in keeping the unstable American economy running. To get back to the two political entertainers I mentioned - Obama and Colter. I challenge you to find one thing in Obama's act which was obscene. It was good clean fun, and yes funny (does this drive you nuts?). Colter's acidic cracks about Christie's weight, Bush I, and the looks of various personalities were at the very least mean, and maybe obscene. If you like Colter you are no judge of talent, sir.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 13, 2014 5:37 p.m.

    @ Marxist

    In the immortal words of Col. Sherman T. Potter, Horse Hockey!!

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    March 13, 2014 5:58 p.m.

    "Low-information voters trend younger and are more likely to be unmarried. They typically remain at least nominally ‘undecided’ until the bitter end, and generally do not read or watch extensive political or news coverage. They may care about economic issues in theory, but the tax rate doesn’t impact their day-to-day existence.
    ...
    'Democrats – Barack Obama in particular – go after these voters with gusto. The 2008 Obama campaign broke ground by advertising on Xbox video games, prompting thousands of stoners to get off the couch and out to the polls. In 2012, when young women visited a beauty blog, they were likely greeted with video ads of Eva Longoria or Scarlett Johansson telling them Obama was fabulous. And lest we forget the infamous ad where Girls star Lena Dunham invited her fellow young women to make their “first time” special with Barack Obama."

    -The Hill

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    March 13, 2014 6:09 p.m.

    marxist: "To get back to the two political entertainers I mentioned - Obama and Colter [sic]."

    Sadly your characterization is accurate. But only one is supposed to be an entertainer, the other is supposed to be a President.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 13, 2014 9:43 p.m.

    re:vern001

    This guy is "supposed" to be the President of the United States for heaven sake. That title used to carry respect and dignity - no more thanks to your community organizer / entertainer n chief. The man is an embarrassment to the United States. When you think of the great men like John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan who inspired so many and led the free world against Communist aggression and then you see this little clown on every late night comedy and entertainment show on the networks ...on a regular and repeating basis ...you get the idea that this is a non-serious guy who was elected by an uniformed and non-serious public and then the sharp decline taking place of this once great country makes total sense.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 13, 2014 10:09 p.m.

    George Bush's completely unintentional comedy was far worse. Or better, depending on what you laugh at.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    March 14, 2014 7:22 a.m.

    The bit was funny.
    And agreed, the comments from the rabid Obama haters, -- makes it even funnier!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    March 14, 2014 9:40 p.m.

    "If you love American capitalism you should venerate Obama. The actions of his administration prevented a complete collapse of the economy."

    Yeah, and the actions of Neville Chamberlain prevented a second world war. Oh wait, it didn't!

    Actually, that's probably not the best comparison. After all, Chamberlain's actions probably didn't make things any worse, unlike Obama's actions which did.

    @Schnee

    "As opposed to the side that thinks tax cuts increase revenue ?(we could cut taxes and have so much left over money we could start some wars... how'd that work out for Bush's budgets?)."

    Interesting comment. First of all, research shows that increasing taxes hurts the economy, which will then hurt government revenue. Lowering taxes helps the economy, which benefits government revenue. And talking about Bush's budget and the wars, have you ever wondered how Bush could have had so much money to start 2 wars AND still have added LESS debt than Obama did? Wow! Obama's policies must be absolutely terrible if in the short span of 3 years and 2 months he added MORE to the debt than Bush did in all 8 years with 2 wars!

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    March 15, 2014 6:47 p.m.

    Appearing that sketch was a smart move on Obama's part.

    It's had a lot of you tube hits, and that means he's getting the message out.

    If it works, do it . . . and who cares what Right Wing naysayers have to say about it?

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    March 17, 2014 8:50 a.m.

    Hutterite, not often do I agree with you, but in this instance, 100%.