So if Target did use a model with the exact same body shape as the picture that
ended up being shown would the feminists and body image people stop their
crying?I don't think so.If the argument is based
solely on the fact that Photoshop was used - fine, go cry about it. Tell us how
its impossible.But what about next time a very attractive and thin
model is used somewhere and she ISN'T photoshopped?You're
still going to cry and say its unattainable. We have a bigger(pun
intended) problem of big people in this country than we do of too skinny people.
So if our choice is the country obsessing over losing weight vs.
obsessing over what their next fast food meal will be - I'll take obsessing
over looking skinny.
Chris B, Extremes in either direction are never a good thing, but you
clearly don't seem to know much about the dangers of obsessing over looking
skinny. I have been one of those who obsessed about being skinny to the point of
being nothing but skin and bone because I wanted to be more like the models
being thrown in our faces from the media. Fortunately I have been able to
recover somewhat, though it has taken years, and can see how unrealistic and
unhealthy the obsession really was. Anorexia and other eating disorders are real
and dangerous and I have known many, many girls who have struggled to overcome
them. These images from all over the media (including adds from Target) that
proudly show the gap that so many pro ana girls are striving for is anything but
good.Good to see people stand up to unrealistic views of how a woman
@ Chris B: "But what about next time a very attractive and thin model is
used somewhere and she ISN'T photoshopped?"Depends - did
she get that way without surgery but through proper diet and exercise?If a model is healthy and thin, that is great - 30 years ago that was the
standard. The standard nowadays is too often surgical enhancement or
photoshopping - both of which prevent very impossible standards. (And for the
record, this is so prevalent, they are now doing the same thing to male models
causing young men to have body image concerns also.)I will agree
with you that being overweight is also a concern, but we are not talking
dichotomies here - the choice is not skinny or fat. There is a very valid
middle ground and that is where we need to encourage people to be.
@ Chris B: "We have a bigger(pun intended) problem of big people in this
country than we do of too skinny people. "So if our choice is
the country obsessing over losing weight vs. obsessing over what their next fast
food meal will be - I'll take obsessing over looking skinny."Interesting thing about that - individuals who suffer from eating disorders
related to being thin are a smaller (no pun intended, the subject is too serious
for that) percentage of the population than individuals who are obese, however
individuals with eating disorders related to being thin, particularly anorexia
nervosa, have an increased risk of death higher than the increased risk of death
related to obesity.An obese individual is 3x (300%) more are risk of
death than an individual of normal weight - an individual with anorexia nervosa
is 6x (600%) more at risk of death than an individual of normal weight, twice as
at risk as an obese individual. Just because they are harder to
point out in a crowd and their appearance may not be as "objectionable"
as that of someone who is obese, doesn't mean it is a better state - it is
actually much more dangerous.
Target + PicasoNot much different than the rest of the shopped world
these days. The sad part, is with how much people obsess about their
"health" these days, it's not much different than some actual
Maudine,"An obese individual is 3x (300%) more are risk of death
than an individual of normal weight - an individual with anorexia nervosa is 6x
(600%) more at risk of death than an individual of normal weight, twice as at
risk as an obese individual." And, like you say, we have more
people who are obese than we do people who have a serious eating disorder - and
more people in the country are dying from being too large than they are from
being too skinny.
The problem with the Target ad was not that it was photoshopped. Everyone does
that these days. What made Target a target was that it was photoshopped so
badly. It looks like something I would have done the first day I was learning to
use Photoshop. Blank rectangle between her thighs, jagged spot of flesh under
her armpit, etc, etc.. I'm inclined to think of it as a demonstration of
why middle management should hire professionals for some jobs and not try to do
photo production themselves.