DN Subscriber, you know that immigration laws are federal laws, don't you?
It's not the state office holders that are supposed to be
enforcing them.By the way, I'm ALL for investigating crooked
Democrats and well as crooked Republicans.
Swallow is no different than any other citizen - he broke the law and should
receive punishment for the crime. There should be no special treatment - if we
were in his shoes we wouldn't receive special treatment. Hopefully there
will be no "dragging of the feet" in sentencing him to whatever degree
it is decided upon. What Swallow did was an injustice to the State of Utah and
to the system.
What about all the "buyers".
It amazes me that people believe John Swallow is the only politician engaged in
this type of conduct. He certainly got caught, but conduct similar to this is a
standard for politicians at every level through to the chief executive office of
the United States.
Why should we assume this corruption reaches back only to Swallow and
Shurtleff?Yes, they got caught.But for everyone who gets
caught, how many don't get caught?
LDS Liberal, hate to break it to you but this GOP (Conservative) Partisan has
said that Swallow was oily from day one. I voted against him in the convention
and primary election and left my ballot blank for AG in the general election. I
knew this was going to happen because I had heard rumors dating back to when he
ran against Matheson. Shurtleff should fall with him.
So now what?And I have to think that Swallow was only emulating
Shurtleff. I can't believe Swallow operated in a vacuum.
Greed is good. And the profit motive is the best possible motive.Just ask Adam Smith, Ronald Reagan, and the Republican National Committee.Besides, it's not really greed. It's just a healthy
self-interest.The invisible hand of capitalism (a very good thing)
grabbed swallow and handled him like a rag doll, forcing him to nod his head
when people came up to him with bribes and requests for favors.That's Republican leadership for you.
What about the companies and political organizations that went to the justice
sales and paid money through dummy companies? They should be subject to criminal
prosecution too, time to call a Grand Jury.
Well, Mr Swallow has cost the state at least $400 million in hard cold cash and
at least $100 million in reputation...and is he going to be permitted to receive
a state pension as if he has been one of our most faithful state servants?
Mr Swallow should be prosecuted and his retirement package should be stopped. He
should also have to make restitution.
Swallow is the tip of the iceberg in what is clearly a corrupt Utah Republican
political machine beholden to the most extreme elements of its members, and
moneyed interests with deep pockets.
Swallow's attorney does make a good point - that the legislators in
judgment of Swallow are doing the same thing in accepting political
contributions. I'll not argue Swallow is innocent. No, I'll argue
the legislators are just as guilty. He simply got caught.
AG office for sale...I thought it was an auction to the highest
He should be held accountable for the $2M.
Will he still receive that huge retirement package? If so, that is totally not
Strong language. Unfortunately, it confirms the gossip and worst fears.One does wonder whether this will reach back to Shurtleff. I am glad a real,
practiced attorney has taken the reins. Reyes is a certain improvement. Should
Sim Gill run for AG, we would have excellent candidates to choose from. It
would, however, be awkward to have Sim prosecuting the ex-AG while seeking the
AG post. Nonetheless, I think highly of Reyes and Gill.
I do not know which GOP partisan "commentors" are so sorely missed but
at least we have the gloaters to amuse us. I agree that John Swallow should be
prosecuted for whatever laws he has broken.
If Swallow had admitted his mistakes and resigned early on, the investigation
likely would have cost a fraction of this amount. He stonewalled and lied, now I
hope he will be forced to pay the consequences by facing serious criminal
prosecution. I also join other outraged taxpayers in demanding that he forfeit
any and all state retirement benefits.
To Iron Rod...There was a great deal more at stake than hunting the
birds with the money that was spent there. It is about the land they live on.
Millions, if not billions of dollars are at stake from oil and gas if those
lands are tied up because a bird that lives on it is endangered. To keep that
bird off the endangered list is huge when it comes to income for the state of
Utah. If the bird is on the list, there will be no permits for oil and gas
exploration, or fee income and other income from those endeavors. The state
loses big time. Efforts to increase those bird numbers are worth it monetarily
as well as environmental.
Copacetic, I'm pretty sure that LDS Liberal was using the word
"funny" not in its meaning as providing fun and comedy, but more in its
other sense of "strange, bizarre, disquieting." In that assessment I
have to concur with LDS Liberal.
Dont worry, the office and AG are still for sale. Just as corrupt as they were
under swallow. Look up AG agent Ron Barton. How does this kind of thing keep
@ LDS Liberal:It doesn't say anything much positive about
anyone who could find any facet of this negative and sad story to be
"funny".I'm sorry that you do.That fact is, very
few commentators (GOP or otherwise) wrote that they felt Swallow "was
completely innocent", especially once the evidence starting surfacing. Your
exaggerating appears to be trying to make this more politically provocative
between readers than it really is or should be. Again, nothing funny
about this story whatsoever.
Now they have to honor the findings and put him away. These acts do not merit
anything short of incarceration. To blatantly abuse the assumed sanctity of the
AG's office for personal gain, and doing so in criminal fashion is
inexcusable and an example should be made here.
Tell me how does this report differ from the Lt Governors report and that of the
Bar Association and the FBI?
City Weekly reported most of this stuff before Swallow was elected. We could
have saved ourselves a lot of money if anyone had paid attention to their
reporting. Or if the Deseret News had took a look at what was reported.
I tried to post what has to be, under the circumstances, a very legitimate
question.May I try again?When will the criminal
proceedings begin?Until then, this case is not closed.
House Report: Swallow hung 'For Sale' sign on door of AG's
Office. House tells AG's office,"Only we can put 'For
Sale' signs up. Stay away from our domain."
For those who complain that the investigation was to expensive it was a worthy
endeavor .The price tag is double what the House OKed for lobbying
efforts ($2,000,000) to keep the "grouse or sage hen" off the
endangered list so people could hunt them legally. Which is more important?
Funny -- I miss seeing certain GOP partisan commentors who went on
and on about what a mindless, waste of a witch-hunt this was.That
John Swallow was completely innocent, and this was only the result of
Democrats trying to smear a good, decent, honest public servant.
Thank gooodness that the legislature ill-conceived attempt to gut the GRAMA
rules was rescinded. I shudder to think that this corruption would not have been
uncovered without strict GRAMA regulations.
Though the investigation was expensive, I am grateful that there is effort to
restore some semblance of trust in state government and law enforcement at the
AG level.However, what of Mr. Shurtleff. Perhaps the corruption in
the AG office started earlier than Mr. Swallow? And what of the
federal investigators that found no evidence of wrong-doing? Could there have
been a pay-off for such a report?Interesting, but speculative at
this point. But possible none-the-less.
If purity of conduct in office is the Utah standard, I can support this as a
worthwhile investment, and hope that appropriate legal action follows.However, having set that high standard, we need to apply it to EVERY
politician in the state, including Democrats. And we need to pursue allegations
of voting irregularities just as vigorously, to ensure that politicians winning
elections do so fairly.Finally, while on a zealous campaign to
ensure all our laws are firmly and continuously applied, someone needs to start
investigating allegations that some Utah law enforcement heads are negligent in
enforcing immigration laws. After all, we have set high standards here in Utah
for officeholders, both elected and appointed.
The investigation will be a 'waste' if nothing is done aa result.Clearly Mr. Swallow broke the law. We already have the
'evidence'. He should be prosecuted and his 'retirement'
should be taken away to defray the costs.If the elected officials of
Utah are truly concerned with this voters 'trust' they need to finish
the job! "A.G..... Do your job!"