Yes... Yes... let's stop them... hear hear....But how?
Let Canada get this one.
I''m a little dismayed at the many short sighted and ill informed
comments. With regard to the Ukraine situation, no one, least of all the writer
of this article is suggesting we go to war. There are MANY steps we can take to
persuade Russia and Putin that it's in their best interest to stop the
expansionism and bullying via diplomatic, political, and economic means. Those
who act if as if our choices are limited to either doing nothing or starting a
war either fail to understand the complexity of international relations or are
intentionally obtuse for political purposes. We are not the world's
policeman, but we are the only superpower. If we succumb to isolationist fables
and withdraw from the turbulence of world affairs other, much less savory,
entities such as Putin will jump in to fill the power vacuum. The result will
be increased violence and human suffering which will affect all of us and in the
long term increase the risk of our being compelled into future wars not of our
choosing. There are no easy answers and no guarantees but to ignore world
events will only bring greater misery down the road..
Well of course they SHOULD be stopped. That's a no-brainer. The tough
part is.... HOW do you stop them?Do we start flying in troops?Just economic sanctions?What are you proposing??What will
stop them??That's the tough question...
Davis rightly observes that we must learn the lessons of history. The Crimean
War of the 1850s was largely a sectarian conflict, and was infamous for the
Charge of the Light Bregade.Like that futile suicidal charge
"into the valley of death", US military action in Crimea today would be
identically foolish:'Forward, the Light Brigade!'Was
there a man dismay'd?Not tho' the soldiers knew
Some one had blunder'd:Theirs not to make reply,Theirs not to
reason why,Theirs but to do and die:No more following
blundering war mongering leaders. No more blind obedience to military nor
religious authority. No more refusing to make reply, refusing to reason why. No
more do or die!Give diplomacy a chance. As Russia did in
"protecting" the Eastern Orthodox residents of Crimea in 1850, Putin is
claiming to be doing to "protect" ethnic Russians today. Consider that
Russia may not have been wrong then nor now.
Why not let Russia have the Crimea? If we had not backed the Mujahideen in
Afghanistan, the Russians would likely still control Afghanistan and we would
have saved over 2,000 American soldiers lives and saved another 18,000 from
being wounded. And what did we support the Mujahideen for? So, they could
morph into the Taliban and bar girls from getting an education. We have been
backing the wrong side in Russian break away states. Let's back Russia and
leave the middle East to them.
Never waste an opportunity for political advantage. We're blessed to have
a humble, intelligent statesman in the WH. Last thing we need is another sabre
rattling Republican to create another mess.
You critics of Obama, tell me, what would you have him do? Instead of taking
shots, tell us, what should he do? Put it on the table. What alternate course
would you pursue. Shots from the cheap seats are easy, but leading is hard.
And, note also that Obama has the U.S. diplomatic corps and military to advise
him. And don't forget that the U.S. does not and should not act alone.
For you who think this is Obama's fault, shame. Again, what should the
U.S. do? You talk tough and attack our President, but you offer nothing.
Complicated international relations should not be undertaken by bitter bloggers.
Russia should be stopped from taking Crimea back?1) Let us borrow
more money from China to pay for this struggle, let us send our young people
into the Army and then to Ukraine over there to die for this cause, let us give
up our Social Security to pay for this.Or2) Let us
accept the vote of the people of Crimea to go either with Russia or to stay with
@timpskier - perhaps appeasement didn't work - all things are perfect in
hind sight - but calling nation the "axis of evil" has done little good
either. For that fact, nearly 13 years of foreign occupation hasn't
seemed to have helped much either.So while I support the idea of
preventing Russia from bullying its neighbors, other than a whole lot of saber
rattling, the options are few and far between. Even if we did have the air
defense shield up and running in Poland and Czech Republic, those systems also
would have done little more than the capability we all ready have in place in
the region.Russia has seen its satellite countries destabilized
through out the world. Libya is no longer a puppet to Moscow. Syria is in
total disarray - neither side is really wining there. Most of Russia's
former members of the "soviet union" are now members of the european
union…. Putin felt he had to take a stand somewhere… and Crimea
seems to be that place.
I am sure it is all Bush's fault. In the meantime what can we do? Answer:
nothing. It is however a mistake by Russia. If we had more natural gas
production we could sell to Europe instead of Russia and pay off our debts fast.
What are we supposed to do? Say with a straight face "you just can't go
around invading anybody you want to"? This is just one more legacy from the
disaster that was the Bush Administration.
Kerry accuses Russia of invading the Ukraine on "trumped up pretext" and
other dumb things. Hmm. Is Kerry a dumb idiot or a lying hypocrite? How many
have died in this "invasion"? How many died in the invasion of Iraq on
an obvious "trumped up pretext"? This is a complex situation and stupid
statements like Kerry makes give non-brain dead Americans no trust in him or our
government. It is so obvious that the new regime in the Ukraine was financed
into power by EU and other interests, and that the democratically elected
President of Ukraine was run out of the country. If these same interests that
support the new regime supported the President that was run out their rhetoric
would be, "How evil Russia is for overthrowing a democratically elected
CHS 85,In Davis' article he did not first jump to war. And
neither would I. He offered suggestions where the US could start. I am just
untrusting of Obama's methods of diplomacy. Where have his "red
lines" worked?All Obama has to do to get Putin laughing is to
state he is laying out a "red line". Now that's a joke Obama could
repeat on any comedy network and get a laugh.
@timpskierAre you a member of the Armed Forces? Are your children?
Are you willing to risk your life or the lives of your children to stop Putin?
If not, why are you so quick to risk the lives of others? @DavidIf diplomacy and talk are so bad, are you willing to pick up
a rifle and do your part? Why are we so anxious to go back to war?
Why is spilling blood the conservative answer to ever world situation?
Military-industrial complex maybe? Ego? I realize that war is sometimes
necessary, but why is it always the conservatives who use it as a first option
instead of the last option?
Richard, your words are like hot air in a wind storm. Putin can do anything he
pleases so long as people vote Obama and his cronies into office.
What do we know of Putin, and does that knowledge give us any predictive values
or indicators of what he may do in the future?I believe Richard
Davis' concerns that Putin will continue to overtake territory to be
accurate. He has done this twice now. He bemoans the demise of the former
Soviet Union. He is an enemy of the west.Mitt Romney warned of
Putin's aggression, and the danger Russia represents. Obama mocked Romney
for such warnings. Now we discover that Obama was wrong (again) and Romney was
right (again).I believe Putin will act again. Russia is already
supporting regimes in the Middle East that directly oppose and confront
democracy and peace. He is acting again to take over countries in Europe. We
must act. Otherwise, we will be forced to act when we may be in a much-weakened
state.Burying our heads and our fears will not stop Putin.Neither will Obama's "red lines" and endless diplomacy and talk.
Appeasement did not work with Hitler. Frightening to think it probably
won't work with Putin either. Where do we draw the line? Or maybe we
don't have the courage to draw one anywhere.
While I support strong sanctions, and perhaps testing Russia on other fronts
(like Syria), I don't know how else the West can stop Russia short of war.
If there is war over the Ukraine, it will make every war at least since WWII
seem tame. Is that what we want? Tough talk is one thing, but execution is
quite another. I would have thought that Davis would realize this.
Hello Richard!Should something escalate between the US and Russia....Are you willing to send our troops, and possible your very own children to
fight?We can no longer police the world. Putin is a loose canon.There is a great deal of inequality, evil doers, poverty, crime, etc, etc.
throughout our worldAmerica just cannot repair it all any longer.Sorry.