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Published: Tuesday, March 11 2014 11:15 p.m. MDT

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jzzlvr
Salt Lake City, UT

The Collinsworth injury looked like it could have been bad...maybe a blown ACL from the way he was grimacing. Would be very sad if he was down for a year or more.
I still cannot get over how poorly Carlino plays. He takes the worst shots at the worst possible times, misses almost all of them, and keeps coming back for more. He's sort of the anti-Jimmer.

EPoint
Roy, UT

The Cougars looked flat, disheveled, tired, in need of a haircut (Matt C.) a shave (Kyle C.) and a good nights sleep. Got to better manage time, the creature, and play sharp, focus on maximum potential. John Wooden would not have stood for the sloppiness evidenced Tuesday night.

KimmyP
Granstville, UT

How many times must the adage about defense winning championships be proven?
Harmon has beaten the drum on the cougars offensive prowess all year long, but tries to gloss over the defensive deficiencies hoping they'll magically disappear.
In games with evenly matched opponents, defense wins time after time, and offense wins in church ball.

SlopJ30
St Louis, MO

jzzlvr - Look on the bright side. We're down to one season and (probably) one game left of "The Matty Bricks Experience." After enduring the white-knuckle ride he provides night in and night out, I would think an upgrade to Nick Emery has to be an improvement. We'll see.

Sports Nutz
Smithfield, UT

As an Aggie fan I usually enjoy seeing byu lose, but watching Collingsworth go down like that was not good. He is hands down the best all around player on that team and I love watching him play. Here's hoping it's not a serious injury and that he's back on the court at 100% ASAP.

Mark321
Las Vegas, NV

Tough break for Collinsworth. The good thing for BYU according to selection committee criteria is that roster issues (like Collinsworth's injury) doesn't effect BYU's chances getting into the tournament but it could effect seeding. Such an injury could cause BYU to play in the first four play-in games. Right now according to experts there are 57 locks currently in the tournament (32 conference tournament champions and 25 at-large locks) so with 11 spots up for grabs BYU is in good shape because of the 11 bubble teams BYU is in the upper half to get in. Going back to Collinsworth's injury, we do have Carlino who has his moments where he's really good and moments where he's really bad. When he slashes to the basket and makes good crisp passes he can be at his best and gives us a chance to win as good as Collinsworth being in there. Let's hope that that is the Carlino that comes to play in the NCAA tournament.

Dr. Chim Richalds
ROUND HILL, VA

Say what you want about the Collinsworth injury factoring into it. I've watched BYU only since 1996 as a casual fan of Football and Basketball and they always choke away opportunities when they matter the most. They have the coaching to put them in the position to win but can never seem to get over the hump and consistently win. Very disappointing.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Sports Nutz - would be nice if he was full recovered and hoping it is not ACL, maybe 80% or use him sparingly when needed most.

SlopJ30 - Matty is Matty, sometime he hit it but many times he can't. If KC is done before tourney then Matty won't do well unless Dave Rose tell him not to shoot and look for assists and steals.

stay tune hopefully we know by today on KC.

Deanvrtc
Vancouver, WA

Rose is a great coach. The fact that he HAD to leave Carlino in when he was doing so poorly is evidence of how bad everyone was doing except Collingsworth. Haws is "points" on the free throw line, and gets there often, but the guy had a miserable shooting tourney. The Zags easily were the better team here. Its a curse being a BYU fan. You hope every year...disappointment in the end.Here is hoping for next year...:)

cal cougar
camarillo, CA

It looked bad for Kyle. If that knee needs surgery, please look nationally for a doctor with outstanding results with knee surgeries. That knee may be worth millions and millions of dollars to you. Do right by it.

Also, playing on a bad knee is a recipe for disaster. Heal and get better. BYU can dance without you while you heal. I am more excited about next year anyways. With everyone, healthy and more experienced, a run at a sweet 16 is not out of the question.

Also, I have always been impressed with Coach Few from Gonzaga. The coach from San Francisco needs to take lessons from him. Coach Few is a class act added to the fact that he is one of the best coaches in the collegiate ranks. I will be watching and cheering for his team as well as ours.

Bluviking
Rexburg, ID

"Exits Las Vegas in a familiar way"? They DID make it to the championship game...

They seemed to be off the entire tourney, but managed to get to the championship game. At times, their defense was stifling, but they needed to get busy sooner.

And, even with shooting so horribly, they only lost by 11 points...a few buckets closer to their average, and with Collinsworth still in there, it might have been a different story.

BYU is on the way up...looking forward to the NCAA tourney, and especially next year!

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

@Deanvrtc

Rose is a good coach?? What exactly has he done that merits that kind of praise? I think he's a great guy but that's not the same thing. We have NEVER won any games that mattered with Rose at the helm. Name one.

Just like Bronco, he recruits decent LDS talent and rarely gets the best LDS players (especially outside of UT) or any good non LDS ones. Aside from that, the players are not really any better for playing at BYU. Rose does ZERO development of players. Just like Bronco.

If you want someone that turns good players into great ones, look at Quincy Lewis at Lone Peak. What he has done there is phenomenal. You can't tell me the kids at LP are any different than they were before Lewis came along. Lewis just knows how to get the best out of his kids. Sadly, Rose does not. Even Jimmer's brilliant career was wasted at BYU.

Sorry to throw a wet blanket on all the Coach Rose fans, but let's be honest, folks.

4blade2007
Provo, Utah

I hope K. Collinsworth injury is not season ending and can return to the line-up either for the Big Dance or the NIT. I see this team as three (Haws, Mika and Collinsworth) against five every game. Where is the inside presence for BYU? Yes, Mika hustles and gets a few dunks, but he needs to work on his footwork and creating space for himself so the team can score easy baskets. This BYU is a perimeter team - never have I seen so many outside shots. BYU needs to get some big guys with some rebounding and offensive skills.

Magna Ute Fan
Magna, UT

Best wishes to Collinsworth. I hate to see these guys get hurt playing college ball. I hope its not as bad as it looked.

sg
newhall, CA

BYU...does not nor has it ever displayed a swagger. Be it at the Marriott Center or on the road. They play with fear not with grit. I've watched the last two games and I wasn't impressed at all. I put blame on this loss on Coach Rose. The team wasn't prepared mentally. The set plays were horrible. Rose had no answer to the Zags' defense. Doesn't he get paid to do just that? I don't believe BYU deserves an at large birth or any birth into the tournament. Maybe the NIT, but not the NCAAs. However, if they do make it, I predict they will lose their first game by at least 15 or more points. BYU just isn't a great/good team. Average at best. Nothing like the teams of the past. Maybe we need to recruit more black players?

Tenn12
Orem, UT

I saw a team that was thoroughly out coached. Or perhaps they were outmanned. Either way Dave Rose needs to be held accountable. There is no way BYU with its money, facilities, resources, etc should be manhandled like they were last night and like they are most of the time they play Gonzaga. Compare BYU's money and resources to every other school in this conference. It's a complete embarrassment to not be better than we are. Time to recruit Dave, or maybe start coaching defense and a little bit of offense other than haws, carlino, or collinsworth going one on one and forcing up a contested shot. Gonzaga's offense and defensive efficiency was far superior all night compared to byu.

bigirish
OREM, UT

Yeah, the players may be feeling bad, but I am in a deep funk. We get embarrassed so many times on national tv. Is Haws believing his own hype? Even when he was open, he couldn't hit anything. Sure, he can live at the free throw line, but is that his scoring legacy? Yes, his scoring got us to the tourney, but then where did it go They all looked so much in disarray a lot, not like a solid Gonzaga. We're better than that but we don't play like that in the big games - hope KC can return, but without him, I don't give us much of a chance, IF we even get selected. It's just sad to watch so much meltdown. Haws, when you get interviewed as if you're a BB God, show some humility and admit you haven't played too well when you haven't.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

As long as I have been watching BYU basketball we are always at least one guy short. That goes back 50+ years. When the Cougars are playing with one, two, or three guys that are no threat to score then more folks get double and triple teamed. Too bad. The Cougars did not quit.

Mark321
Las Vegas, NV

@ OtisBDriftwood

"Many experts project BYU in the tournament..." Which experts are you referring? BYU Fans?

ESPN plain and simple. Of course you might discredit ESPN but they have the most expert analysts on the topic and they are usually right most of the time on who gets in. Bracketology and Bubble Watch reports are good sources. The bracket analysts also know how the Selection Committee votes better than any other sports network or website. As long as old hags instead of cinderellas show up in the other conference tournaments, BYU will be in.

Old But Not Stupid
Moorpark, CA

Several have already commented on some key problems--i.e., poor spacing (on both O & D); improperly filling the lanes on fast breaks (as when Mika ran over the point guard in transition); weak concepts for offense and defense; pour execution of fundamentals (showing the ball to an on-ball defender while dribbling or faking); astonishing lack of awareness (dribbler going down court with 3 opponents in front of him and having the ball swiped from the rear).

Many of these problems are sophomoric (as in high school sophomore) failures. Sadly these comments are valid for a Div I team. After seeing Gonzaga torch BYU's zone with quick perimeter passes, I thought Rose should either fire his offensive guru or demand that said guru view the film of the Zag offense and COPY it!

Rose needs to grow his staff with roots beyond the borders of Utah.

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