Dick- you mean they will fly northeast? I'm not impressed with the headline
as I think the Cougars did quite well in the WCC tournament this year and
it's quite a demeaning headline. It's tough to beat Gonz anytime but
2 of 3 would have been monumental, especially shooting the way they did in the
first half. Great efforts were shown by the boys to get back in it. They could
have rolled over but did an admirable job representing the university this year
regardless of how they finish out. Yes, they will get back on a plane and fly
home when they're done, just like they always do. (In a familiar fashion)
@ eastcoastcoug:Get real! Granted BYU didn't look good for a
lot of the game with Gonzaga, but they did cut the big lead in half after
getting down by 21 points in the first half and even forced Gonzaga to call
timeout and regroup later in the second half when BYU got to within single
digits. BYU has beat some pretty good teams this year including
ranked teams Texas and Gonzaga (in their previous game). They also took ranked
Oregon into overtime and was ahead for much of the game against UMass before
losing by only single digits. They also beat Stanford at Stanford.They made it to the Sweet-16 a couple of years ago and might've made it
to the Final-4 had Davies not got suspended from post-season play. The vast majority of teams seeded 10, 11, or 12 in the NCAA tournament usually
are 1 and done. It's not just BYU. However, they still consider it an honor
just to make it to the tournament since only about 20% of programs do. Most
years Rose's teams do.You are truly being too negative and
harsh in your assessment.
@ OtisBDriftwood:Let's reword your question to make more sense
of it. Which nationally recognized experts don't have BYU predicted to be
in the NCAA tournament. Even after the Gonzaga loss, I've yet to find a
single one that didn't. Among the many to do predict BYU in the
dance...- USA Today- Bleacher Report- Joe Lunardi from ESPN- Peter Woodburn from SB Nation- TeamRankings.com- Kurt Kragthorpe
from the SL Tribune (not a known BYU fan)- Etc., etc., etc.Since it's obviously so unanimous, anyone at this point who doesn't
believe BYU is going to the NCAA tournament would really have their wood
drifting in a weird direction and considered to have their head in the sand.
I wouldn't even want to see BYU in a tournament. What's the point? Our
coaches don't prepare our kids and the players look ridiculous. I'm
trying to understand some of my fellow fans interest in seeing BYU in the post
season. Year after year of watching post season college basketball,
I am just amazed at how so many schools play at a higher level. But never BYU.
Why is that?Why do we continue to think Rose is a great
coach? Because he gets 20 W's in the regular season against non top 20
I hope Collinsworth is okay, but it didn't look good. BYU should be in the
Big Dance and hopefully UVU and Weber State. It's been a while since
we've had 3 in state teams get in. My Utes have to win the Pac 12
tournament to get in and I'm not holding my breath for that. I like that
Coach K has the attitude of playing to win. He shouldn't be coaching if he
doesn't take that approach, but as a fan I can be more realistic. If we
beat AZ, then I might start hoping and we could get 4 Utah teams into the Dance.
Until then I'll just be happy following the Utah teams that make it.
Several have already commented on some key problems--i.e., poor spacing (on both
O & D); improperly filling the lanes on fast breaks (as when Mika ran over
the point guard in transition); weak concepts for offense and defense; pour
execution of fundamentals (showing the ball to an on-ball defender while
dribbling or faking); astonishing lack of awareness (dribbler going down court
with 3 opponents in front of him and having the ball swiped from the rear). Many of these problems are sophomoric (as in high school sophomore)
failures. Sadly these comments are valid for a Div I team. After seeing Gonzaga
torch BYU's zone with quick perimeter passes, I thought Rose should either
fire his offensive guru or demand that said guru view the film of the Zag
offense and COPY it!Rose needs to grow his staff with roots beyond
the borders of Utah.
@ OtisBDriftwood"Many experts project BYU in the
tournament..." Which experts are you referring? BYU Fans?ESPN
plain and simple. Of course you might discredit ESPN but they have the most
expert analysts on the topic and they are usually right most of the time on who
gets in. Bracketology and Bubble Watch reports are good sources. The bracket
analysts also know how the Selection Committee votes better than any other
sports network or website. As long as old hags instead of cinderellas show up in
the other conference tournaments, BYU will be in.
As long as I have been watching BYU basketball we are always at least one guy
short. That goes back 50+ years. When the Cougars are playing with one, two,
or three guys that are no threat to score then more folks get double and triple
teamed. Too bad. The Cougars did not quit.
Yeah, the players may be feeling bad, but I am in a deep funk. We get
embarrassed so many times on national tv. Is Haws believing his own hype? Even
when he was open, he couldn't hit anything. Sure, he can live at the free
throw line, but is that his scoring legacy? Yes, his scoring got us to the
tourney, but then where did it go They all looked so much in disarray a lot,
not like a solid Gonzaga. We're better than that but we don't play
like that in the big games - hope KC can return, but without him, I don't
give us much of a chance, IF we even get selected. It's just sad to watch
so much meltdown. Haws, when you get interviewed as if you're a BB God,
show some humility and admit you haven't played too well when you
I saw a team that was thoroughly out coached. Or perhaps they were outmanned.
Either way Dave Rose needs to be held accountable. There is no way BYU with its
money, facilities, resources, etc should be manhandled like they were last night
and like they are most of the time they play Gonzaga. Compare BYU's money
and resources to every other school in this conference. It's a complete
embarrassment to not be better than we are. Time to recruit Dave, or maybe start
coaching defense and a little bit of offense other than haws, carlino, or
collinsworth going one on one and forcing up a contested shot. Gonzaga's
offense and defensive efficiency was far superior all night compared to byu.
BYU...does not nor has it ever displayed a swagger. Be it at the Marriott Center
or on the road. They play with fear not with grit. I've watched the last
two games and I wasn't impressed at all. I put blame on this loss on Coach
Rose. The team wasn't prepared mentally. The set plays were horrible. Rose
had no answer to the Zags' defense. Doesn't he get paid to do just
that? I don't believe BYU deserves an at large birth or any birth into the
tournament. Maybe the NIT, but not the NCAAs. However, if they do make it, I
predict they will lose their first game by at least 15 or more points. BYU just
isn't a great/good team. Average at best. Nothing like the teams of the
past. Maybe we need to recruit more black players?
Best wishes to Collinsworth. I hate to see these guys get hurt playing college
ball. I hope its not as bad as it looked.
I hope K. Collinsworth injury is not season ending and can return to the
line-up either for the Big Dance or the NIT. I see this team as three (Haws,
Mika and Collinsworth) against five every game. Where is the inside presence
for BYU? Yes, Mika hustles and gets a few dunks, but he needs to work on his
footwork and creating space for himself so the team can score easy baskets.
This BYU is a perimeter team - never have I seen so many outside shots. BYU
needs to get some big guys with some rebounding and offensive skills.
@DeanvrtcRose is a good coach?? What exactly has he done that merits
that kind of praise? I think he's a great guy but that's not the same
thing. We have NEVER won any games that mattered with Rose at the helm. Name
one. Just like Bronco, he recruits decent LDS talent and rarely gets
the best LDS players (especially outside of UT) or any good non LDS ones. Aside
from that, the players are not really any better for playing at BYU. Rose does
ZERO development of players. Just like Bronco. If you want someone
that turns good players into great ones, look at Quincy Lewis at Lone Peak. What
he has done there is phenomenal. You can't tell me the kids at LP are any
different than they were before Lewis came along. Lewis just knows how to get
the best out of his kids. Sadly, Rose does not. Even Jimmer's brilliant
career was wasted at BYU.Sorry to throw a wet blanket on all the
Coach Rose fans, but let's be honest, folks.
"Exits Las Vegas in a familiar way"? They DID make it to the
championship game...They seemed to be off the entire tourney, but
managed to get to the championship game. At times, their defense was stifling,
but they needed to get busy sooner.And, even with shooting so
horribly, they only lost by 11 points...a few buckets closer to their average,
and with Collinsworth still in there, it might have been a different story.BYU is on the way up...looking forward to the NCAA tourney, and
especially next year!
It looked bad for Kyle. If that knee needs surgery, please look nationally for
a doctor with outstanding results with knee surgeries. That knee may be worth
millions and millions of dollars to you. Do right by it. Also,
playing on a bad knee is a recipe for disaster. Heal and get better. BYU can
dance without you while you heal. I am more excited about next year anyways.
With everyone, healthy and more experienced, a run at a sweet 16 is not out of
the question. Also, I have always been impressed with Coach Few
from Gonzaga. The coach from San Francisco needs to take lessons from him.
Coach Few is a class act added to the fact that he is one of the best coaches in
the collegiate ranks. I will be watching and cheering for his team as well as
Rose is a great coach. The fact that he HAD to leave Carlino in when he was
doing so poorly is evidence of how bad everyone was doing except Collingsworth.
Haws is "points" on the free throw line, and gets there often, but the
guy had a miserable shooting tourney. The Zags easily were the better team here.
Its a curse being a BYU fan. You hope every year...disappointment in the
end.Here is hoping for next year...:)
Sports Nutz - would be nice if he was full recovered and hoping it is not ACL,
maybe 80% or use him sparingly when needed most.SlopJ30 - Matty is
Matty, sometime he hit it but many times he can't. If KC is done before
tourney then Matty won't do well unless Dave Rose tell him not to shoot and
look for assists and steals.stay tune hopefully we know by today on
Say what you want about the Collinsworth injury factoring into it. I've
watched BYU only since 1996 as a casual fan of Football and Basketball and they
always choke away opportunities when they matter the most. They have the
coaching to put them in the position to win but can never seem to get over the
hump and consistently win. Very disappointing.
Tough break for Collinsworth. The good thing for BYU according to selection
committee criteria is that roster issues (like Collinsworth's injury)
doesn't effect BYU's chances getting into the tournament but it could
effect seeding. Such an injury could cause BYU to play in the first four play-in
games. Right now according to experts there are 57 locks currently in the
tournament (32 conference tournament champions and 25 at-large locks) so with 11
spots up for grabs BYU is in good shape because of the 11 bubble teams BYU is in
the upper half to get in. Going back to Collinsworth's injury, we do have
Carlino who has his moments where he's really good and moments where
he's really bad. When he slashes to the basket and makes good crisp passes
he can be at his best and gives us a chance to win as good as Collinsworth being
in there. Let's hope that that is the Carlino that comes to play in the
As an Aggie fan I usually enjoy seeing byu lose, but watching Collingsworth go
down like that was not good. He is hands down the best all around player on
that team and I love watching him play. Here's hoping it's not a
serious injury and that he's back on the court at 100% ASAP.
jzzlvr - Look on the bright side. We're down to one season and (probably)
one game left of "The Matty Bricks Experience." After enduring the
white-knuckle ride he provides night in and night out, I would think an upgrade
to Nick Emery has to be an improvement. We'll see.
How many times must the adage about defense winning championships be proven?Harmon has beaten the drum on the cougars offensive prowess all year long, but
tries to gloss over the defensive deficiencies hoping they'll magically
disappear.In games with evenly matched opponents, defense wins time after
time, and offense wins in church ball.
The Cougars looked flat, disheveled, tired, in need of a haircut (Matt C.) a
shave (Kyle C.) and a good nights sleep. Got to better manage time, the
creature, and play sharp, focus on maximum potential. John Wooden would not
have stood for the sloppiness evidenced Tuesday night.
The Collinsworth injury looked like it could have been bad...maybe a blown ACL
from the way he was grimacing. Would be very sad if he was down for a year or
more. I still cannot get over how poorly Carlino plays. He takes the worst
shots at the worst possible times, misses almost all of them, and keeps coming
back for more. He's sort of the anti-Jimmer.