Deportation is not inhumane. Disappointing? Probably. Inconvenient?
Probably. But inhumane? No. The special interest groups who claim
that it is inhumane include unscrupulous employers who employ illegal aliens as
a way to avoid having to pay their fellow American a fair wage. Thus we see a
relentless propaganda campaign designed to falsely convince Americans that
deportation is both inhumane and impossible when in truth, it is neither.Inhumanity is teaching children that dishonesty, illegality, and
disrepsect for one's neighbor is the right way and that it eventually will
pay off in legalization of residency status. True humanity is
sending one's neighbor along the path of righteousness. The fact is,
illegal aliens may return to their home countries and there raise their children
with honor and in righteousness and make a fine contribution to their
communities and build up their own countries. Nor is deportation
impossible. The nation need only make it clear that illegal aliens are in fact
subject to the law and to meaningful penalty if caught in the country illegally
instead of basically promising them that they are immune to the law as we do
now. Most would then self-deport.
OK so the article claims that 2 million deportations have occured during the
Obama admin. Well, one of the claims I hear from the Bill O'Reillys of the
world, and others, is that there is no way we can deport all of the 11 million
illegals already here. 2 million is a good percentage of that, and in only 5
years. Maybe deportation of the current illegal population is the right way to
go. Inhumane, yes, but, this country cannot afford to continue to be the
welfare office of the world. And, strong measures like this, which I might add
is the norm for most every other country in the world, might discourage further
illegal entries into America. The main issue that everyone, no matter what
political stripe should agree with is that when people come in illegally, so
does cocaine, and heroin. Those are chemical warfare against our people. Stop
the people and you stop much of the drugs.
@SoCalChrisShow me even one statement signed by the First Presidency
stating that the 12th and 13th Articles of Faith and the 8th, 9th, and 10th
Commandments -- all of which make it clear that illegal immigration is wrong --
have been repealed. No such statement exists. And no, incognito press releases
by the NON-priesthood Public Affairs Office do not count. So do you
believe that a man trying to make a better life for himself and his family have
a right to rob a bank? To shoplift? If not, why not? If so, would
it possibly have anything to do with the cheap labor illegal aliens make
available to unscrupulous American businessmen?
UtahBlueDevilThat's a horrible analogy. Did the pioneers steal
the Native American's ID's and use them to find work? Did they lie
about being a Native American when applying for work, did they covet the Nation
they had built?
when it mattered, The English Navy and every Englishman with a boat evacuated
over 300,000 soldiers from Dunkirk in about 3 days with the Nazis pounding at
them by sea, air and land every single minute of every single day.. I think if
we put our minds to it we could deport every illegal in this country in about 60
days. Don't tell me it can't be done.
My thoughts exactly BlueDevil. I'm pretty sure Elder Uchtdorf is well aware
of the 12th Article of Faith. So are the rest of the Brethren. The 12th AOF and
immigration reform, or even full blown amnesty, are not mutually exclusive. The
scriptures are replete with examples of forgiving trespasses. The Church has
made several moderate, compassionate statements on immigration.Those
who are obsessed with the 12th AOF to exclusion of the rest of the scriptures
and official statements from the Church remind me of Inspector Javert in Les
Miserables who was incapable of understanding anything but the law. Man-made
laws may be changed and punishment can be adjusted.
"It's impossible to follow the 12th article of faith, and scripture,
and to support amnesty. "Really - where does it say that? So
when James Buchanan as President of the United States offered up
"amnesty" to the residents of the state of Utah on April 6th, 1858 in
the "PROCLAMATION ON THE REBELLION IN UTAH" following the Utah Wars...
that was wrong. Doing so - in your words - "just creates more problems,
and encourages more people to lie, steal and covet. "On when on
January 5th, 1893, Amnesty was offered all lDS people who were found to have
violated Polygamy laws.... that was wrong..... because it just leads to....
really?History really doesn't support your claims here amigo.
Amnesty has been used again and again. It doesn't mean the person being
granted amnesty didn't do something wrong, but that they were being
forgiven for those errors. I think you will not find any problem finding versus
to quote on forgiveness..... or turning the other cheek.
A more serious long term problem than employment is the linguistic division
being created when the influx makes it possible to get by without learning
English, supporting cultural animosity instead of harmony.An awful
lot of the discord is in countries linguistically divided. Crimean residents
want to be part of Russia because they do not share the language with the rest
of Ukraine. Same with parts of Georgia occupied by Russia. Except for the
Supreme court, the Flemish north and French south have effectively divided
Belgium into two separate countries. French Quebec wants to break from Canada,
North and South Ireland, Hebrew and Arabic Israel, the Balkan countries, middle
east immigrant riots in France, etc.What is the future of this
country when enough people here have divided loyalty and want a vote to move the
Mexican border north of Los Angeles or San Antonio?Let's help
them build their economy so they won't feel compelled to abandon their
homeland and families just to eat.No, we do not need to eliminate
all immigration. A little rain is good for the garden. But too much too quickly
and all you have is a swamp.
@marxist"As to Obama's planned reforms, President Uchtdorf
has been quoted 'He was talking about his principles and what he said was
totally in line with our values.'"------Yes.
And President Uchtdorf also said, several months later, in General Conference,
"And, to be perfectly frank, there have been times when members
or leaders in the Church have simply made mistakes. There may have been things
said or done that were not in harmony with our values, principles, or
doctrine."So there ya go.The true doctrine
concerning illegal immigration is clear enough. 12th and 13th Articles of
Faith. 8th, 9th, and 10th Commandments. There really is no valid justification
for teaching children -- by way of legalization -- that dishonesty and
illegality eventually will pay off. Condoning wrongdoing is not
compassion. Nor is it true love for one's neighbor. True love and
compassion is sending one's neighbor along the path of righteousness. All
illegal aliens should be deported, every last one of them, as they are caught.
Then perhaps the children of illegal aliens will have some hope, morally
speaking.And most will self-deport in the first place, if they see
that the country is serious about enforcement.
For those quoting the LDS church. D&C 42: 79, 84-86 84
And if a man or woman shall rob, he or she shall be delivered up unto the law of
the land. 85 And if he or she shall steal, he or she shall be delivered
up unto the law of the land. 86 And if he or she shall lie, he or she
shall be delivered up unto the law of the land.Enforcing laws does not
show a lack of compassion, on the contrary, it teaches people right from wrong,
and helps them down the path of righteousness. It's impossible
to follow the 12th article of faith, and scripture, and to support amnesty. It
just creates more problems, and encourages more people to lie, steal and covet.
Prosecutorial discretion does not follow our Constitution that calls
for equal justice under the law. All Churches are between a rock and
a hard place on returning the 11 million. Threats by other countries to stop
their missionary work give them pause to think. But in the end they must follow
Gods teachings and laws. Amnesty creates more dishonesty and a breaking down of
our countries laws. Cheap illegal labor costs everyone.
Please be accurate as you are a reputable newspaper when you report news. This
President has changed how deportees are counted. The BP returns
regularly the people they catch by the border. Obama now tells them to turn
them over to ICE and ICE counts them as removals when in fact they are returns.
Removals are those caught in the interior of the country. Removals need an order
from someone / body to remove them while returns do not.Obama has
already told Hispanic reporters that this is what he was doing so why arent you
reporting this? and this man has also told ICE you cant deport "Dreamers,
relatives of the military personnel; those who are care givers for small
children / the elderly, etc. There is no way he is the Deporter in Chief when
all the numbers have gone way down since he became President.These
are facts. You can check them with any Govt entity you chose that reports these
numbers. Every President since Carter has better numbers then Obama.No amnesty. No work permits. No nothing but deportation and please reduce
legal immigration including refugees to 100000 per year.
I love comments like this…."I believe people should be
punished for breaking the law, not rewarded"And yet people like
Scooter Libby and Oliver North were granted political pardons for their breaking
of the law. I have even been let off the hook by the occasional State Trooper
for my excessive led foot. In fact 95% of the people on i-15 are let off the
hood daily between Salt Lake and Utah valley.There are lots of
people who are not prosecuted because doing so would overwhelm the system. The
number of tax cheats is in the millions - but we can't afford to audit them
all. We've already discussed driving violations. We don't lock up
every drug user, or person caught intoxicated. We have fathers that abuse
their wives and children… and those who are not honest in all their
dealing… the list goes on.So before we go all pius, and start
claiming personal perfection…. remember we all do something wrong on
occasion. Some are done in secret…often many times are.The
most intriguing thing is just how partisan the responses have been, and how
intellectually dishonest by itself is.
The Department of Homeland Securities site shows much different numbers, here
are the numbers of deported, returned at border, and turned back by customs at
airports and sea ports. Office of Immigration Statistics, 1996...1,649,986,
1997...1,536,520, 1998...1,679,439, 1999...1,714,035, 2000...1,814,729,
2001...1,387,486, 2002...1,062,270, 2003...1,046,422, 2004...1,264,232,
2005...1,291,065, 2006...1,206,417, 2007...960,772, 2008...1,043,863,
2009...869,857, 2010...752,329, 2011...641,633. These are much different numbers
than the administration is trying to sell the public. Add in the waivers given
to young adults, and ICE being told not to stop anyone who could be eligible for
waivers and our borders are more porous than ever. The promise of amnesty or
waivers to work without prosecution is like a huge welcome sign at the border.
The Washington times in the February 25th issue reported "The Obama
administration regularly cuts a break for businesses that violate immigration
hiring rules, reducing their fines by an average of 40 percent from what they
should be, according to an audit released Tuesday that suggests the government
could be doing more to go after unscrupulous employers.According to
the audit, conducted by the Homeland Security Department’s inspector
general, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement cut one business’s fine
from $4.9 million to slightly more than $1 million — a 78 percent
drop."Nothing would stop illegal immigration faster than forcing
business to follow the laws of the land. I see the lack of
immigration enforcement as a mirror of our broken moral compasses.
Joe,And bush got criticized as a warmonger who hated minorities.
Anyone who thinks the liberals treated(and continue to treat) bush any better
than conservative treat barack are cherry picking bits and pieces of reality.
And that's sad.
As to Obama's planned reforms, President Uchtdorf has been quoted "He
was talking about his principles and what he said was totally in line with our
Here you go CrisI think Bush was a decent guy. I liked him. I
voted for him.I believe he did a great job at bringing the country
together after 911.He wanted the best for the country. He is a very
patriotic American.I also believe that he felt in his heart that
invading Iraq was a necessary move.I can assure you that while I
disagreed about Iraq, and felt it was a very bad move, I never once made the
kind of personal attacks that you hear daily from the right wing.Obama is not running the country vastly differently than Bush did. But gets
classified as an American hating socialist. Funny (or sad) how that works.Bush was center right, Obama is center left. But not vastly different
in how they govern.
2 bits, in addition, you say I "would post that conservatives can't say
anything nice about Obama." Yes, you are correct about that. That is
pretty much a major theme of my first comment. Your comments have done nothing
to dissuade me from that position. If you say something nice about him, without
a begrudging attitude (which you didn't do in your comment), then I suppose
I could reconsider my "little stereotype-based world", as you put it.
Let me be perfectly clear (to quote a GOP hero), even when the President does
something conservatives like, they find a way to criticize him. Some of the
other commenters aptly highlight this.
2 bits, you are twisting like a pretzel with your arguments. The numbers show
that Obama has vigorously enforced the laws on immigration at an unprecedented
level. I have an insider view on the issue as is it being handled at DOJ.
How's that for an answer to your question? Even with it, and the assertion
of the editorial, you still minimize the efforts of the Administration. I tend
to agree with the editorial. It is more correct, and the standard conservative
talking position is wrong. And when the President takes action more to your
liking, conservative say he is no different than any other President. Again,
the hatred for the President transcends logic, and reinforces my view that
"... the conservative ideology has no future. There is no leadership, no
consistency, and no integrity."
Joe Blow - Anyone who thinks bush was treated any different is living in la la
land. I'll show you a positive comment I've made about
barack for every positive comment you can show me you've made about
airnaut,Sounds easy enough, Pray tell -- How are you
going to pay for all that, ------------Really not
that complicated. The money we will save on education costs(for not
overcrowding schools with illegal immigrants), health care costs we wont be
paying when illegal immigrants with no insurance go to the hospital, law
enforcement costs we wont be paying on crimes that illegal immigrants
commit(besides illegally immigrating) will more than pay for a better wall.
And a bus ride home costs significantly less than we're paying
to have them here. Did you really not understand that?
"I get the feeling if even a few "conservatives" didn't say
anything nice about Obama... you would post that conservatives can't say
anything nice about Obama."Cmon 2 bits. You hear the rhetoric.
It is not that people are not saying "anything nice about Obama"There is seething hatred. The likes of which we have never seen towards
virtually any politician.Yes, some said some terrible things about Bush,
but this is a new level. And it is certainly condoned by the GOP party
leadership.We certainly have the right to disagree with someones,
anyone's politics. But so many on the right (not every one, but a vast
majority) make it blatantly personal.Those who think that this is
exactly the same way Bush was treated are either blind, or willfully ignorant.
U-tarWoodland Hills, UTBuild a better wall, send illegals home, set
up a better immigration system, then come legally, and then become an
American.1:46 p.m. March 11, 2014======== Sounds easy enough, Pray tell -- How are you going to pay for all
that, andpay for the Middle East Wars for oil, and not raise taxes on the uber-wealthy making over $1 million a year?If you can answer just ONE of those questions, you might be onto to something.
Esquire,I think you are generalizing too much. I get the feeling if even
a few "conservatives" didn't say anything nice about Obama... you
would post that conservatives can't say anything nice about Obama.You need to read all the comments, not just the ones that fit what you are
looking for. You will see that all Conservatives can't be lumped together
into your little stereotype-based world.I consider myself to be a
Conservative, and I don't think Obama has done any worse than any past
president on Immigration Enforcement. NONE have focused on enforcement. None
of their policies have ended the flood of people coming to the country illegally
(not just Obama).But we don't have to genuflect to Obama on his
stellar record on Immigration Enforcement. I mean exactly what enforcement
improvements has he supported?? All administrations have done some deporting.
But that doesn't fix the actual problem. How has Obama himself encouraged
Build a better wall, send illegals home, set up a better immigration system,
then come legally, and then become an American.
One thing the editorial highlights is the civil war between conservatives. One
thing the comments show is that no matter what, conservatives will never, ever
say anything nice about the President or give him credit, even on things they
claim they would otherwise like. No wonder the conservative ideology has no
future. There is no leadership, no consistency, and no integrity.
DMN... Please define "TOO Harsh"...If deportation is
"too harsh"... What would be satisfactory?I mean
"immigration enforcement" by it's definition, involves the
possibility of deportations.. right?
The callousness and lack of empathy displayed in most comment threads regarding
immigration is distressing and surprising given the high regard with which I
hold Utahns in general. But to those who may be reading through these comments,
its important to keep in mind that those insensitive comments do not reflect the
feeling of the majority of Utahns or of the the Mormon Church. Utahns are
widely recognized as being kind to a fault and not given to xenophobia, due I
think in part to their missionary work in other countries. They recognize that
illegal aliens are human beings, and generally support efforts to transition
them to legal status - something that is not only better for the immigrants, but
better for all of us.
Why shouldn't there be prosecutorial discretion in immigration, just like
every other area of law enforcement. Focus on deporting the bad apples.I wonder how many on this thread saw the case of the German family
differently -- the family who came here so they could home school.
airnaut (aka "Open Minded Mormon")If you will read my
post... you will see that I didn't blame anybody (Bush or Obama). I just
think we need to focus on what we do now, and from here on, instead of
Bush-bashing or Reagan-bashing (which is useless). You are so partisan...
it's almost useless to respond but I will.I don't think
ANY administration has succeeded on illegal immigration. I have never praised
Bush on this, or Reagan. I have pointed out what a failure
Reagan's amnesty program was. Giving amnesty back then didn't fix
anything... we just have 11 million MORE illegal residents now.Bush
also failed. His "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill didn't
pass. And even if he did... it would have been a failure. It fixed nothing.I haven't criticized Obama yet, because he hasn't done
anything yet (on immigration reform). Sure he deported a lot of people... but
they keep coming faster than they can be deported.What has Obama
actually done that we should praise him??
@Open Minded Mormon,It must be nice having airnaut and Pagan always
backing up everything you say.They also have very similar formatting
to their comments too.--------------How
interesting--------You disagree with "your"
church on other items, so I see no reason why Maple Don couldn't.--------I believe people should be punished for breaking the law,
not rewarded-------It is hypocritical for people to
support illegal immigration and then cry when corporations send jobs
overseas.Either situation ends with law abiding Americans losing
jobs to non-Americans.There is no difference. Other than
one is legal and other is not of course.
Obama has never, ever, executed any law to the letter. Obama has never, ever,
honestly sought input from Republicans and has admitted he will never, ever,
negotiate with the "enemy" (his words).Reagan and the Republicans
agreed to the first amnesty in return for a Democrat agreement that workplace
enforcement would be stiffened. Reagan later came to regret that agreement
because, guess what? the workplace enforcement never happened. Goes to show you
just can't trust political promises. The lack of workplace
enforcement is what is referred to in law as an attractive nuisance. Without
uncontrolled workplace opportunities, deportation becomes a moot point.Old
switcheroo:Do you even know what economies of scale means? NAFTA was
intended to increase opportunities in our neighbor's country, lifting their
standard of living so that they could afford to purchase things made in the U.S.
Unfortunately, the devil is in the details and there are too many special
interests who want the field tilted in their favor, rather than a level playing
field. When you allow the free flow of PEOPLE across a border, you don't
have a border.
Deseret News and KSL's non-stop propaganda and support for the breaking of
existing laws is incredibly naive and unwise. Maybe they can explain the good
that comes from selective obedience. Anarchy comes to mind.
Obama enforcing the law. What an oxymoron. He so far hasn't done too good
of a job with the Affordable Care Act. He keeps skirting the law on that one,
only for political gain.
I'm gathering more evidence that politics is just like professional
wrestling. It's social engineering manipulated at a higher level than the
players we see.To get a percentage of the population to change their
minds on a subject completely, you just change the label of the player from
Republican to Democrat and do the same things. Many will change their minds
about it based on their group affiliation.If NAFTA designs and
allows the free flow of goods across borders, it should do at least the same for
PEOPLE! NAFTA isn't designed to improve the free market at all, but to
manipulate it and drive down labor costs. Without the artificial disparity
between labor costs there is NO incentive for NAFTA at all since all goods given
equal labor and other production costs would be made closest to the point of
production within the range of economies of scale.
Upson DownsSandy, UTHow is an illegal suppose to be given the chance
to "make it right" like the LDS Church suggests unless he/she is sent
back to their country of origin and made to do it the legal way like everyone
should do it in the first place?8:03 a.m. March 11, 2014=========== It's called "Amnesty"."A
pardon extended by the government to a group or class of persons, usually for a
political offense; the act of a sovereign power officially forgiving certain
classes of persons who are subject to trial but have not yet been
convicted."Without coming right out and saying it, that is
what is implied.It's perfectly legal, and Saint Ronald
Reagan did it back in 1986.
Bickering about which administration did better on deporting illegal aliens is
useless. Bush has been out of office for years. What he did is irrelevant.
What we are doing now and what we will do in the future is relevant.I think deporting people here illegally is humane. It's better than
putting them in jail, and we can't just look the other way.A
lot of Americans are out of work and looking for jobs. I would assume
it's the same in the illegal alien community (many unemployed and
desperately looking for jobs). At least American citizens can collect
unemployment to carry their families over while they look for a job. Illegal
aliens don't even have that. They have to be super desperate. And
desperate people will do things they would never do otherwise to insure their
children survive (which sometimes means illegal activities to make money).This can't be a great existence. In a country where you
can't speak the language. You can't legally work. Always hiding.
If someone hurts you or takes advantage of you... you can't call the
police.Maybe these people are better off in their homeland...
President Obama needs to take action against those who hire illegal immigrants
as well. We would have no illegal immigration problem if jobs were not
available. We should condemn both employer and employee equally. If we are
arresting and deporting illegal immigrants, maybe hefty fines and loss of
property would be in order for those employers who do not use e-verify and make
bank on the backs of illegal workers. Or maybe we should just
disenfranchise those who use illegal workers. We can take away their citizenship
and just drop off the employee and the employer across the border. They can
then, as Upson Downs says above, let employers "make it right."Or
in the words of Mohokat in these comments, "Head 'em up and move
'em out." All of them.
To Conservatives -- this man can do nohting right, ever!Their myopic bias
and ought right hatred taints all reality.Too hard on immigratnion,
Not hard enough on immigration.Too hard on spending cuts, Not hard enough on spending cuts.Too hard on the Middle East, Not hard enough on the Middle East.Too involved in Foreign
affairs, Not involved enough in Foreign affaris.He's too
black, He's too white.We get it, You hate all
things Obama.Now, move along.
When reading the comments of those who so strongly oppose immigration reform on
the grounds that illegal immigrants have broken the law, I am reminded of the
tongue-in-cheek observation of Anatole French:"In its majestic
equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the
streets and steal loaves of bread."One wonders how many of these
strict followers of the law, had they had been born into a dirt-poor pueblo in
El Salvador with a family to feed, would hold the same harsh opinions on
violations of immigration law.
How is an illegal suppose to be given the chance to "make it right" like
the LDS Church suggests unless he/she is sent back to their country of origin
and made to do it the legal way like everyone should do it in the first place?
Regardless of how you want to use the statistics, it would be hard to make any
case that Obama is worse on immigration than the 6 years of Republican
controlled House, Senate and Presidency under GWB.The GOP talks
tough immigration policy when they are not in power, but do little when they
have control.Just like the deficit. Just like healthcare. Just
like social programs. Just like entitlement programs.Like Clinton
said. "It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did"Or in this case, "for not doing what you didn't do"
Oh my! Another right wing paradox. Obama enforces immigration laws too much
AND he enforces them too little. Kind of like saying Obama is a tyrant AND a
mom-jeans wearing wimp. Consistency folks, consistency. Not your strong suit.
If and I say if, Obama has been this aggressive in immigration enforcement it
is one of the few things that he has done that I support. The government needs
to be aggressive in enforcement which would send a message that if you come here
through the back door you will suffer the consequences. And why not. Deportation
is only one tool to use but we need to use them all. Granting anything that
smells like amnesty will only encourage more to break the law. Head em up and
move em out.
With illegal immigration and related ills becoming more and more of a problem,
it's natural that deportations would increase, independent of what someone
in as high and unrelated a position as the president would say in the matter.
It really sounds more like another attempt to blame something on the
Republican-lead Congress; despite hunger for latino votes, the latter is
hesitant to begin any type of reform because the president, if given the chance,
would absolutely -not- support or enforce deportations or border security.Besides that, what are "Latino advocacy groups" and what do they
care about it? If a bunch of caucasians were moving to Japan illegally, some
bringing destructive drugs and violence while more avoid undergoinging any form
of assimilation, would it be reasonable for a "white advocacy group" to
insist that they should be able to do so?
Really? In the opinion of the Deseret news, "Obama's immigration
enforcement too harsh?"And then you go on to say, "The
administration has authorized immigration authorities to use 'prosecutorial
discretion' and avoid applying deportation procedures against those who
were brought here as children."Gosh, Obama has been lambasted in
the Deseret News by Right Wing commenters for not enforcing every law to the
maximum.And he's been ridiculed for over-stepping his bounds
and micro-managing.But now when he enforces the law as written and
then allows prosecutors the discretion to handle these cases as they see fit,
that's wrong too . . . In the eyes of Right Wingers.In other
words, there is absolutely no way Obama can please Right Wingers, even if he
does exactly what they say they want him to do.It's no wonder
he's pretty much stopped asking for input from Republicans. The nation
would be much better off if Obama simply ruled by executive fiat.
Come now; Obama is not the great deporter. The Editor should know this. Obama
himself admits that his deportations are an apples-to-oranges comparison to real
deportations. He has focused on convicted violent felons.His big numbers
come from catching illegal aliens at the border and sending them home before
they even enter the country. Previous administrations have NOT counted those as
deportation.Additionally Obama has been lax at the job of interior
enforcement.*He halted worksite raids.*He gutted local partnerships
like Secure Communities and 287g.*He rescinded standing deportation orders
for 300,000 illegal aliens.*He unilaterally gave two year visas to the
DREAMers.There are dozens of additional examples if the Editor would
simply research the question. FAIR USA has a pretty good list.The DN is
blinded by its own position and refuses to see the reality.
In my opinion Obama's immigration enforcement and that of previous
administrations is too little too late. I don't know of any nation that
has borders as porous as ours nor any country who allows over 12 million illegal
immigrants to live openly and freely without much effort to find and deport
them. No nation can be sovereign or last long with this lack of border control.
What's disingenuous and cynical is tossing the 12th Article of Faith out
the window in the false name of compassion and humanity. If it
really were about compassion and humanity, we would hear about the suffering of
countless Americans as a result of illegal immigration. We would hear about the
moral corruption of children as a result of teaching them that there is a reward
for breaking the law -- which incidentally is what legalization what do. But
alas all we hear in this regard is crickets.And surely the Deseret
News is aware that by his own admission, Obama and his administration falsely
count border turnaways as deportations, knowing that this will mislead many
Americans. The fact is that under Obama, real deportations -- i.e.,
from the nation's interior -- have gone way down. And obviously Obama has
promised illegal aliens virtual immunity at the law.Deportation is a
basic standard of immigration law enforcement. The notion that such enforcement
is immoral or inhumane, is the lie of the century. Where
propagandists are able to succeed in inculcating this lie, immigration law
effectively ceases to exist. Society then breaks down, as we are
To make it's "record deportations" claim, the administration takes
cases that would have previously been counted as "returns" and counts
them as "removals." Then, they compare only their removals (and returns)
to the number of removals under previous administrations. Separately, they point
to the lower number of returns as evidence that the border is "more secure
than ever.""The statistics are actually a little
deceptive," Obama said last month (sept 2011) during a discussion with
Hispanic journalists. There has been "a much greater emphasis on criminals
than non-criminals." And "with stronger border enforcement, we've
been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as
a deportation even though they may have only been held for a day or 48
hours."It's a big con job by the administration and some of
the news media.
"Even at the high rate of deportation, it would take at least 50 years for
all undocumented aliens currently in the U.S. to be sent back to their countries
of origin."Well, that's a start. Review USC Title 8
Sections 1324, 1325 and 1644. Enforce it.
Inhumane to send someone home(on taxpayer dime)? Cry me a river. It's
inhumane to lock criminals up in cages(prison) too huh? Obey the law or