Utes say they can compete with anyone but no mention of winning. Unfortunately
competing and winning are very different things as they have found out this
year. One and done in the pac tourney. UW os aweful this year so I expect them
to win the first game. After that it will be lights out an d the end of the
season unless the CIT comes calling.
Good luck to the University of Utah Runnin' Utes basketball team in
upcoming Pac-12 tourney.You gotta love the great attitude of this
young ball club.Go Utes!
But seriously folks!Thanks for your encouraging words though
I'm not sure why you bothered to stop by. Your cougs
couldn't handle the young Utes and Coach K taught Rose how the college game
is played. But hey, thank goodness for the wcc, right? byu fans have some wins
against high schools they can crow about? Rise and shout!
littleperspectiveUnfortunately for U, unlike Coach Rose, coach k
hasn't taught his team how to win on the road.Road/neutral
recordsBYU 8-9, including wins over #33 Texas, #45 Stanford, #66 San
Francisco, #67 Saint Mary'sUtah 2-7, only Top 100 road win vs
#52 CaliforniaTalk about playing high school teams...BYU
SOS #38, has TWO wins over 200+ teams, NO losses, and ONE non-D1 winUtah
SOS #121, has EIGHT wins over 200+ teams, ONE loss, and TWO non-D1 winsMore than 1/3 of Utah's schedule (11 games) have been played versus 200+
@myPerspective.Coach "definitely not coach k as in one of the
greatest head coaches of all time" Krystowiak taught Coach Rose how to
coach? Was that before or after Coach Rose's posting of the 7th best
winning percentage of all current Division I coaches??
@ But seriously folks!Utah is projected to be a 2 seed in the NIT.
I think the Utes are a lock for it, even with a loss to UW. Also, the CIT is
not an option because that tournament is exclusively for mid-major teams. You
know, teams like Bradley, Texas-Pan Am, and BYU.....
But seriously Ducky- They beat every team in the conference except Arizona who
they took to overtime, and Stanford who they lost to by one on the road. That
is both competing and winning. Its not like they need to fear anyone in the
conference. This team plays tough D that makes them competitive with most
anyone. Go Utes!
@backpacnThank you for your opinion but Sagarin takes into account
SOS and road wins and here's what he thinks:#36 Utah (SOS
72)#42 BYU (SOS 69)"More than 1/3 of Utah's schedule
(11 games) have been played versus 200+ ranked opponents."Wrong.
Utah has played 11 games against cupcakes and two of those games were against
#167 USC.vs RPI 150+ (aka cupcakes):Utah 10-1BYU 11-2
BYU is one more game vs cupcakes.vs RPI 50Utah
4-7BYU 3-5Utah has 3 more games vs tournament teams.
UteologyThe Selection Committee couldn't care less about
Sagarin's ratings, but they do care about RPI and road/neutral wins:#31 BYU(22-10) #38 SOS, 7-6 vs RPI Top 100, including 4 road/neutral
wins#77 Utah(20-10) #121 SOS, 7-9 vs RPI Top 100, with only 1 road/neutral
win over a Top 100Despite your frantic cherry-picking spins,
there's a reason BYU is an at-large contender, while Utah isn't even
in the picture.
Uteology"Utah has 3 more games vs tournament teams."So you're assuming Utah will play in the PAC 12 tourney
championship?Why not just assume that Utah will also be playing in
the NCAA tourney championship, then you can claim that the Utes have at least 9
more games vs tournament teams?In the latest ESPN bracketology:- BYU is solidly IN the NCAA tournament, no longer on the bubble.-
Utah, not even mentionedIn the latest 2014 Bracket Matrix (84
different brackets)- BYU projected to be an 11th seed (10.81
average) by SEVENTY-THREE of the 84 brackets- Utah was included in only
Uteology"Utah has 3 more games vs tournament teams."What makes you think that beating Washington, which isn't even
close to being an NCAA tournament team, is a given?
Joe Lunardi's latest bracketology:Brigham Young - 12th seedUtah Valley - 15th seedWeber State - 16th seed
@magnaute "fan"Hu....who are you talking two? I haven't
posted anything in this thread until now.
Why so many BYU fans commenting on a Utah story this morning? Don't you
guys have a big game tonight? Shouldn't you be concerned with your own
team?Would it kill any of you to admit that Utah has improved
greatly this season? No, they likely won't be going to the NCAA tournament
this year but they will be getting an NIT bid. Playing in the post-season
anywhere is a great accomplishment given the sorry state of the program over the
past few years. Also, a 20 win season for the first time in 6 years.Oh, and there was that win back in December. 81 - 64 in case you've
To the Utes: tough loss at Stanford, winnable especially after 5 straight missed
free throws by the Tree, and 23 seconds to come up with some play, any play to
the basket...and not even get a shot off? I was sick to my stomach. Hopefully
that one goes into the "growing pains" file. No matter, the Vegas
tourney is a fresh new start, and with as many Utahns as Vegas has had filling
the seats through the years, the PAC 12 tourney might be as close to a home game
as any.To the cougs: All the YBU posters on here, thank you for
using a Utah article to try and piggy back your message. We get it. The WCC
has you feeling high and mighty. But how about you concentrate on beating San
Fran tonight, and then we'll talk.
@CrowWho are these "big name recruits" that are suddenly
going to make the Utes as good as Arizona and UCLA? Last time I checked, BYU
with the higher ranked recruiting classes year after year
eating CrowBeing a perennial bottom dweller in any conference is
nothing to crow about.
How many chapters have they started this year?
Zona will be the most overrated #1 seed ever
MyPerspectiveThe Pac is so overrated its not even funny
Eager to see how the Utes do against the rest of the PAC 12 on a neutral
floor.Outside of Provo and a few small communities in California,
nobody cares about the wcc tournament. Any qualifiers from that little
conference will go 1 and out in the Big Dance. The happy valley
"fans" are obviously obsessed with the Utes and the PAC 12
tournament.Wish us luck. Go Utes!
"The Pac is so overrated its not even funny"jakrus:Just think how those fans of the conference that collectively went 2-7 against
Pac-12 schools feel.Oh, wait. That's the wcc.
@LonestarRunner/Mark it Down/No playoff for UYou need to take a deep
breath. Never once in my post did I say Utah is a tournament team, they are
headed to the NIT. You guys are correct Washington isn't a gimmie game,
but I believe Utah is the favorite according to Vegas.You gave your
opinion and I gave you Sagarin's opinion, who, like the scorebaord, thinks
Utah is the better team.@RonBergundyUtah has the #40 (#5
PAC-12) recruiting class next year. All Utah has to do is get 2-3 players from
LA to be able to compete in the PAC-12 (like Wright and Tucker).BYU
isn't going anywhere with the Lone Peak varsity team, which produces great
shooters but not much else. Does BYU produce athletes? Your best player in 30
years, the Jimmer, is anything, ask Sacramento and now Chicago.
Should make for a good tournament. There's a lot of parity in the PAC 12,
which is the 4th ranked conference. One game at a time.Go Utes!>---->
Uteology"Utah has the #40 (#5 PAC-12)... BYU isn't going
anywhere with the Lone Peak varsity team"Lone Peak's
varsity team won a high school NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP last year, beating Jabari
Parker's high school team.2014 Recruiting Classes#20 BYU
- TWO four-star (BOTH ESPN Top 100), TWO three-star#31 Utah - TWO
four-star (only ONE ESPN Top 100, 0 three-star2013 Recruiting
Classes#14 BYU - TWO four-star (BOTH ESPN Top 100), THREE three-starUR Utah - ZERO four-star, TWO three-starBYU could have a national
championship contending team when they're all back from missions in
2016.Thanks for playing.
talkinsportsOUCH!Uteology may want to do a little
research next time, before spouting off.--------------Unlike football, Sagarin's opinion doesn't carry much weight with
the NCAA Basketball Selection Committee
@talkinsports"2013 Recruiting Classes: #14 BYU - TWO
four-star (BOTH ESPN Top 100), THREE three-starUR Utah - ZERO four-star,
TWO three-star"It turns out that Utah's 2013 Recruiting
Class had a 5-star athlete and NBA prospect his name is Delon Wright. He's
the best player in State since Lillard. How's the talent on your 2013 #14
class at the next level? Mika is your only player worth talking
about in your last two classes. BYU contending for a national title, based on
stars that might or might not be actual stars? Good luck!
Utes have their hands full this week. Wouldn't surprise me if they lose in
the 1st round or win the whole thing. I say this because the pac 12 is a
competitive league where all the teams are middle of the road. Oregon and
Arizona are the best of the lot and the Utes (just like in football) are at the
Two For FlinchingThat same UCla team that just lost to Wazzoo? CU is
mediocre at best, the Ducks dropped so fast out of their overrated rankings this
year it was unbelievable. Zona will be the first one seed to lose mark it down
MyPerspective,Thanks for being the first to bring up your biggest rival on
an article about Utah!!! Congrats to the Utes on a great season!!! Good luck in
the PAC12 tourney!!! I have much respect for what Coach K has done for Ute
basketball in the short time he has been in control!!! The future looks bright
up on the hill!!! Onward and Upward!!!Go Cougs beat the Zags and go
dancing!!! Rise Up!!!
Two for flinching,Look it up again BYU has never played in the CIT but
Utah has!!!! Thanks for the good laugh!!! Good luck to Utah in the PAC12
tourney! Go Cougs beat the Zags and go dancing!!! Rise Up
@uteology"Mika is your only player worth talking about in your
last two classes."So now you're a basketball recruiting
evaluator and expert? It would seem that the guys who do it for a living
disagree with you by an extremely wide margin but I guess you only take their
word for things when they rate utah recruits higher than BYU recruits. Did you
really wake up this morning with the intention of looking foolish online? lol