Comments about ‘Utah unemployment rate hits five-year low’

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Published: Sunday, March 9 2014 11:01 p.m. MDT

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Dr. Thom
Long Beach, CA

Don't believe the numbers.

The real question is "what type of jobs are being created?" If someone is like my colleague with a JD and PhD and hasn't worked in the classroom FT in three years and being 65 years old is not likely to again, then creating jobs at the retail level are not relative. Until people recover the jobs, careers and revenue potential they lost, then it's all mute.

christoph
Brigham City, UT

Thank you Mr. Obama. Economy has been growing since 2009. Voted for Romney yet some things are going good.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

We are lucky to live in conservative state where the conservative mindset encourages people to work hard to be accountable for themselves.

This attitude naturally leads to lower unemployment.

Thanks to our conservative leadership Utah is one of the best economies in the country!

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

A lot of crap. The hollow standards the governor is using to fake and falsify the real Utah employment is an economic brick wall may show an unemployment decline but the reality is that unemployment and under employment which they consider full time jobs and unemployed forced into retirement at age 50 are at a 30 year high of over 20%. People are being forced into retirement before they are eligible losing more than 30% or their retirement to tax penalties and tax fines they would give up for a job.

The GNP of Utah is zero, we produce nothing but fake degrees and no real jobs. Jobs in Utah should be paying a minimum of $40/hr to be considered low middle class standards. But Utah job standards allow business to offer jobs with no wages then the governor lies and pays the wages with tax exempt welfare as a tax burden for anyone with a job that pays wages.

Reality is that this state and our spendthrift governor is bankrupt and cannot stay in business. Utah spending is extravagant, over-sized, and overextended in our budget to the point Obama can blackmail our governor into submissive obedience.

Joemamma
W Jordan, UT

Do these numbers include all the lazy that sit on their behinds and have given up on working thanks to government entitlements?
All the millenials living in their parents basements?
All the welfare and food stamp sucking leaches that feed off the blood of those of us that pay taxes?
I think not.
Hey Christoph!
Do you realize we have the highest food stamp participation in history as well as the highest number of people out of the work force in history.. 90 million plus or one third of our population, not to mention the largest deficit and debt in the history of this country.. Thank God you live in a conservative state that still believes in free market and capitalism.

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

@ DrThom:

If you lived here, you would see the help wanted ads in the paper and realize that the vast majority of them are for non-retail jobs. Many are high-tech corporations and educational institutions, all looking for qualified applicants. Of course there are a lot of retail and low-end jobs as well. They still need to be filled when people move up or when companies expand.

While it's not much help to those looking for work, the reality is that it's vital to the economy that we have some people who are unemployed. Otherwise, there is no labor pool for growth and expansion. Zero unemployment would mean that your company is going nowhere because you won't find any new employees so you can grow.

PS: The word you meant to use was "moot"; not "mute".

Shaun
Sandy, UT

Construction has still not come back. I know several people who are out of work and they still say construction has a long way to go before it gets back to its glory days.

Andy in Sandy
Sandy, Utah

The entire job searching/hiring picture has completely changed in the last decade. It used to be that if a person had most of the qualifications for a well-paying job, that they could get on and learn the rest of the qualifications on the job. Now, you must meet EVERY qualification to even be considered for the job. A person with 20 years experience, but no degree, can't even get an interview. People are expected to hit the ground running - and running they must.

In 2000, I was making $65,000 per year, approx. $31/hour (not adjusted for inflation). Now I feel lucky to have a $9.50/hour job. I assume I am not the only one in a similar situation.

Vince Ballard
South Ogden, UT

Extremely low wages have to have some kind of "advantage".

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

"... while the natural resources and mining industry lost 800 jobs year over year. The largest employment increases were in leisure and hospitality, which added 5,900 jobs..."

This quote really shows how Utah's economy is evolving -- with tourism a key growth industry and mining a dwindling economic force.

We have too many policymakers who discount the value of tourism to Utah and believe that the extraction industries are the only real value of Utah's natural resources. Yet with the government shutdown, many of Utah's rural communities recognized the value of those national parks and attractions.

With California cutting off its coal contracts by 2027 and utilities switching from coal to natural gas in the coming years, we're going to see significant job losses in our extraction industries, and Utah needs to recognize and embrace the inevitable changes to better position its workforce, especially in coal country, to make the transition to a 21st century economy.

To believe the free market will "solve" this problem is terribly myopic. Government is really the only entity that can help move these rural economies onto a brighter future through re-education, local economic planning, infrastructure development, etc.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

To: Dr. Thom, Long Beach, CA: First, the employment report is relevant to all job seekers. It is based on a wide range of employment, not just an academic position. Yes, some areas of the economy are moving faster than others. In reference to your friend, if he/she has not taught in a classroom for 3 years, based on my understanding of this segment of the work force, he/she was probably not a tenured faculty. However, he/she looks very capable of starting their own business. We live in a completely different business climate than we did 30 years ago. We either adapt or are left behind. It isn't always pretty and it isn't always kind or equal. We all want something better. However, until that time, we need to adapt to the conditions and survive.

Rural sport fan
DUCHESNE, UT

Come on out to Duchesne county. We are closer to 3% unemployment. Most are FAR above the poverty line/minimum wage stuff.

Dr Thom, if your buddy would deign to teach HS, we need about 12 HS teachers out here. Can't help a guy who is too proud to work for a living.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

Approximately 5% of the population is unemployable. That probably means anyone and everyone that fills that lower 10% is working just to stay alive and not in their chosen profession. The last time Utah was in the 3% unemployment range I didn't interview or hire a single qualified individual. Utah has a very strange work force and economy sometimes.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

Everything Obama has done seems bent on hurting the economy. The stimulus bill, the pipeline deal and thousands of bureaucratic red tape. Utah is working because of conservative principles, but you can't entirely overcome Obama intransigence.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Government seldom creates productive or durable jobs other than government employment and short term construction. The best function of government is to create an environment for job growth. Central economic planning is a mistake that the former USSR, China, Cuba, Venezuela have made and it's proven disastrous. Be like Pres. Clinton, get out of the way and let business grow. Gov. Hertbert has taken that model, however, Utah's job numbers are probably like the White House numbers, incomplete. The percentage of employable, the number on food stamps/welfare and those on disability should also be considered if the overall health of Utah's economy is being considered.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "My2Cents" if you don't like the unemployment rate calculation, how about we look at labor force participation rate. According to the BLS, Utah has had its labor participation rate going up for the past couple of years. Nationally this has been dropping. That means that not only are few people unemployed, but more people that want to work are finding work.

birder
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't know where everyone gets the idea that the recession is over. I make less every year, and the prices of everything keep going through the roof. I am lucky to have a job, but the recession certainly is not over.

Clydesdale
Tooele, UT

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