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Published: Friday, March 7 2014 6:28 p.m. MST

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macnkat
BEAUMONT, CA

Save this fish at a huge expense, try to kill all the fish in Utah lake at a huge expense...the liberals can't seem to make up their minds. Who has made them the final say so on all things living?

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Saving a unique fish seems like a worthy idea, but is this goal worth borrowing more money from china to accomplish it?

Does it taste good? If so plant it other places then it will no longer be endangered.

drich
Green River, Utah

It's amazing that some of these agencies and others
Haven't tried to bring back the dinosaurs.

chilly
Salt Lake City, UT

Great. This must mean that we've got all of the serious problems in the state taken care of.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Who has given conservatives the right to impose extinction on other living things? Are they claiming it's their God given right?

If so, I'm sure God's not happy about that kind of arrogance.

Elwood P. Suggins
BEAVERTON, OR

The June Sucker... sucks.

Elwood P. Suggins
BEAVERTON, OR

Man didn't cause dinosaur extinction. Many species become extinct on their own, without help from man. Which animals feed on the June Sucker? Not humans--that's fer darn sure.

Joe Schmoe
Orem, UT

Those near the airport need to see the writing on the wall. Get out while you can. Between airport expansion and the june sucker you guys don't stand a chance. Sell while the money is there.

The Utah Republican
Alpine, UT

Imagine a Utah Lake that's as clean and beautiful as Lake Tahoe or Lake Geneva.

That used to exist, but our great-great-grandparents destroyed it. They used it for a cess pool, and as a farm pond for chinese carp. We need to put it back. The June Sucker is part of that.

When it's done, Utah Lake will become a jewel in the desert. It should be a tourist destination. It will be when this project reaches maturity.

Red
San Antonia, TX

No. We don't need to reroute the river! Problem solved.

Thanks. Send me a check for my consulting brilliance.

Chase
Saint George, UT

one old man...

Animals were created for man, not man for animals.

And since you brought God into the discussion, do you believe God would be pleased that his children utilized sacred monies (yes, tax is sacred...) for creatures that were created to die, rather than his underprivileged children who are in need of assistance by the rest of us?

I always wonder how zealous animal supporters will defend their actions to God. How can you justify helping animals over people? Animals are not people. I don't recall a gospel about the salvation of animals.

You and I will both be judged by our actions toward our brothers and sisters, not dogs and cats.

Prodicus
Provo, UT

I'm glad we're restoring the lower Provo River's habitat and with it improving the condition of Utah Lake.

Those who think this isn't a serious problem or that it isn't worth taking action don't understand the history of the river and the lake. They have no vision of the huge economic and quality of life benefits that would accrue from having a healthy river and lake - jewels and tourist attractions - rather than a dredged trench and an algae-filled, polluted cesspool that residents usually try to put out of their minds.

(Did you know that there used to be twelve lively commercial resorts on Utah Lake, before we ruined the water quality and replaced native fish with poisoned carp?)

I do wonder why the alternatives- especially the "preferred" alternative- reroute the river so far north rather than building habitat closer to the river's present course. Isn't the river already north of where its natural delta was a century ago? If some of the few property owners along the last miles of the present channel are upset about the diversion, would they be willing to have delta habitat in their area instead?

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

Let's see if I've got this right. . . Conservatives tell us that the scientific idea evolution is wrong, that God created the earth and all the animals on it. Humans were set up as the guardians who are charged with protecting all of creation. . . unless it costs money. Looks like the true God of conservatives is MONEY.

It's now okay to destroy that which the Lord has created in order to save money. Macnkat asks "Who has made (given) liberals the final say on all things living?" Liberals in this case strongly support the creatures created by God, yet conservatives want their god (money) to have the final decision. The truth comes out.

Prodicus
Provo, UT

I'm glad we're restoring the lower Provo River's habitat and with it improving the condition of Utah Lake.

Those who think this isn't a serious problem or that it isn't worth taking action don't understand the history of the river and the lake. They have no vision of the huge economic and quality of life benefits that would accrue from having a healthy river and lake - jewels and tourist attractions - rather than a dredged trench and an algae-filled, polluted cesspool that residents usually try to put out of their minds.

(Did you know that there used to be twelve lively commercial resorts on Utah Lake, before we ruined the water quality and replaced native fish with poisoned carp?)

I do wonder why the alternatives- especially the "preferred" alternative- reroute the river so far north rather than building habitat closer to the river's present course. Isn't the river already north of where its natural delta was a century ago? If some of the few property owners along the last miles of the present channel are upset about the diversion, would they be willing to have delta habitat in their area instead?

one old man
Ogden, UT

Chase, that is one of the silliest comments I've ever seen here. Thanks for a very imaginative interpretation of Scripture.

Utah Teacher
Orem, UT

Being only about 12 feet deep at the deepest point, Utah Lake will never look like Lake Tahoe or Geneva. It is the wrong type of lake for that. However it can be a lot cleaner than it is now if we could just get rid of the carp. They stir up the bottom and keep the silt stirred up. The water isn't polluted just silty.

The biggest mistake we would make is to build a bridge across it. Just get rid of the carp and it will be fine.

road2provo
Davis, CA

I like that old phrase, "you never know what you got until its gone." Protecting wildlife that beautify and restore natural surroundings is very much a valid public interest. As matter of policy, conservation is important in local communities . Solely restricting environmental protection to a few isolated state/national parks that many cannot afford to visit seems a bit under the mark.

Another nice thought that Pete Seeger, among others, promoted was "think global, act local", which he applied to the Hudson River valley. The true cost (money/environmental) of poor management of water resources and the subsequent clean up effort was greater than doing it right the first time. Environmental planning with a healthy respect for all stakeholders involved sounds like what is happening here. Its the right approach.

I know it. I Live it. I Love it.
Provo, UT

I honestly think it's more sad that practically 1% of Utahn's have any sense of commitment to their own state, own traditions, and what makes Utah... Utah.

In 20 years... welcome to Utah, land of the new silicon valley and great business opportunities... and supposedly a great outdoors... but we only sell the outdoors when profitable. We aren't actually good stewards over what we've been given.

God created the fish. If we're the one's responsible for killing it off, we should do something responsible about it. There's nothing wrong with Utah having something to it's name more than fry sauce and a good economy. I'm being a bit absurd, I know... but in many ways I think those who'd argue otherwise aren't offering a better position. Money doesn't excuse being irresponsible with the land and creatures around us. I'm a conservative and by no means a tree huger, but I also don't believe in being reckless.

I say, keep the Utah fish!

RRB
SLC, UT

If it sucks in June, what does it do the rest of the year?

Utah lake will never be like Lake Tahoe or Geneva. They are deep lakes, Utah lake is like a shallow pan. Sometimes I feel like this is being done to give the Real estate business a talking point to sell homes on the shore of a shallow gnat and mosquito farm.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Serious??? So we are trying to save the Sucker? This is the same ugly fish that destroyed Strawberry Res 25 years ago causing the DWR to have to poison and replant the entire lake. I could see doing whatever is necessary to the Provo River to help the German Brown population but it seems to me we WANT to get rid of the Sucker before it destroys the River like it did Strawberry.

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