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Published: Saturday, March 8 2014 12:00 a.m. MST

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marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

"They should ...downsize public education’s organizational structure so it can respond to the needs of students and employers for the digital and global economy, and allow for local control and bottom-up planning."

One of the goals of socialism is to have worker control and ownership of enterprise as much as is practicable. Once again I propose teacher managed and owned school cooperatives on the VERY local level. Let parents be the judge of how well they do. Let parents shop for the best cooperative they can find. This allows for worker (teacher) management and parental control. No more state level bureaucracy. One would think Senator Stephenson would flip cart wheels over this proposal. One would be wrong.

Because as John Florez correctly surmises the legislature Republicans love the bureaucracies they run.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

"They should...downsize public education’s organizational structure... " As Florez should know, there is no way this can happen with today's politics - same is true with higher ed's top heavy administration (with salaries to match).

It will take a revolution of the type I describe to change anything.

In the meantime, how about some teacher cooperative pilot projects, John? Nothing else, and I do mean nothing, will change this administrative overload.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Interesting facts about "big government":
The size of the federal government grew by 40% when Bush was president. It has shrunk since President Obama has been in office.

jed c
Payson, UT

Please wake up Utah and get Howard Stevenson out of our education. This is just another step to privatize education so he and his family can make millions. Do your research Utah. Howard Stevenson is the worst thing to ever happen to education in the state of Utah. Please, Please learn what businesses he and his family are involved in and why he votes the way he does on education issues.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Shhhhhh, Ernest. You'll rattle conservative cages if you spout the truth like that. They can't handle it.

Steve Cottrell
Centerville, UT

It's time that someone other that Howard Stephenson, ardent foe of public education, was the chair of the Senate Education Committee. He should be removed from this position. He should be removed from the State Senate.

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

Sad, sad days in the utah legislature.

The only one worth his salt is Osmond.

How do these guys keep getting elected?

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

How about if we just replace the left-leaning Board of Education and their policies with new members who will focus eduction to meet real world needs, not create endless fiefdoms for the eduction bureaucrats who add no value in classrooms.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

It is no secret that Stephenson wants to dismantle public education in favor of online education (his ultimate goal). This is yet another bill that intends to do just that.

The Hammer
lehi, utah

When conservatives start to defund local education it only pushes the education groups to seek money elsewhere just the way cities have done since the conservatives have sought to take away their power to raise taxes to meet their local needs. Now local governments send lobbyists to washington dc to get money and help. And this is what we might see in the future from local school districts. This is how big federal government is grown, If you don't pay for stuff locally to meet the needs of the people then those entities will go calling to big government to have the needs of the people met.

Its time to wake up conservatives and stop having howard stevenson propose ideas only to feed him and his buddies pockets.

EJM
Herriman, UT

And all Senator Stephenson wants to do is create his fiefdom. To call the Utah State Board of Education left leaning is quite possibly the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Come on now. this is Utah, the most conservative state in our nation. Left leaning? I'm still chuckling.

Utah Dem
Ogden, UT

Orem Parent - you wrote that Osmond was the only one worth his salt . Please know that Osmond voted yes which is a favorable recommendation on SB34 in the education committee - that's salt I can do without. I think Osmond played a game with public education for a while having many if us believe he was a supporter but he now is in lock step with how he is told to vote.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

DN Subscriber almost 200 bills that in someway impact education in the legislature this year and pretty much every year and you talk about the supposed left leaning school board and their fiefdoms who add nothing to the education of our children? The state board is practically powerless, it is the out of control legislature that does not even allow educators to adapt to 2013 set of new rules and regulations for the classroom before they add another couple of hundred bills this year. Maybe the legislature should focus on finding ways to properly fund education as opposed to new ways to micromanage education

bill in af
American Fork, UT

I have been in educator for 36+ years and have consistently seen Howard Stephenson try to undermine education in the state. 95% of our children are in public schools. Why do we let an over-zealous legislator try to destroy the system for our children? He is the first to criticize Congress for overstepping their bounds in education. I submit that the state legislature is doing the same thing on the local level. Leave more decisions in the hands of the locally elected school boards and less in the the hands of a micro-managing legislature.

scrappy do
DRAPER, UT

Stephenson is just a shill for those who would to privatize and profit from public education, he could not care less about the education of your children, Utah

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