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Was Hillary right to compare Putin to Hitler?

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  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    March 10, 2014 10:25 p.m.

    The analogy is apt. Putin is moving into Ukraine to protect "ethnic Russians." It sounds like Hitler moving into Austria and the Sudetenland and than Poland to me. Maybe the end result won't be the same but of course Hitler had to start somewhere.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 10, 2014 12:01 p.m.

    I think all politicians can be compared to Hitler in one aspect or another.

    Just because they are like him in some ways... doesn't mean they are like him in all ways.

    Comparing Putin to Hitler is not a sin (IMO). It's just a way of juxtaposing his style and philosophy with one we all know we don't like because it took the people he was leading on a path that ended very badly. There's nothing wrong with learning from History.

    If the comparisons are embarrassing to the politician... don't just blame the person willing to make the comparison. Reconsider your support for the politician!

    Comparing politicians to Hitler or some other notoriously odious politician is OK (the left did it to Bush you know). The important thing is... to think about it, instead of just knee-jerk rejecting it. Maybe there's something to think about. It's OK to still support the politician. Because the comparison is rarely 100% valid. But at least think about it.

    Putin IS like Hitler in some ways.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2014 5:57 p.m.

    Crimea seems more like Northern Ireland to me. Russians transplanted into another nayional area.

  • GK Willington Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2014 11:32 a.m.

    per Ken & patriot on Mar 7th...

    Could it be HRC is posturing for another run at the White House??

    Read Liberal Fascism & rewatch the 2008 debates between Hillary & Obama then tell me who is more Hitler-esque.

  • Jimmytheliberal Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2014 5:02 p.m.

    @Patriot...Being the liberal that I am my posts are constantly denied by D.N. monitors in fear of spreading facts and intellect to their uniformed masses. I've read several of your posts in the past but this one truly takes the cake my friend. Most definitely aware of your news sources. Hannity, O'Riely, Limbaugh, Culter, etc. True intellects that use factual journalism to express their disagreement with our President's policies and procedures. Wondering if there is anything positive you can say about us highly educated Liberals but most important our President?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 8, 2014 12:03 p.m.

    Badgerbadger
    Murray, UT

    Hitler took over many countries and additionally had 11 million people systematically murdered.

    ==========

    Yep --

    Jews,
    Homosexuals,
    Liberals,
    Communists,
    Illegal Immigrants,
    Abortion Doctors,
    addicts,
    and the "takers" -- the poor, terminally ill, and the homeless...

    Hitler was uber-Far-Right-wing.

    BTW --
    Putin has threatening to over take Crimea,
    and
    He has already out-lawed Homosexuals...

    Sounds like Hillary may be more right than wrong after all...

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    March 8, 2014 9:04 a.m.

    Bush has a higher IQ than Obama. We had a better economy then too. Russia has serious problems including what to do to prevent Chinese encroachment and Muslims from the south. He should make friends not enemies of the west. Moreover the west buys his oil and natural gas. If the US could get its act together re the oil pipeline and natural gas production compressed natural gas (ships) could take a lot of business away from Russia and the middle eastern oil producers. We could even pay off our national debt. But not under Hillary.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    March 7, 2014 11:53 p.m.

    Hitler took over many countries and additionally had 11 million people systematically murdered.

    So how many does someone have to take over before we should worry and make the comparison?

    He also had massive social programs, and overrode parliament in the name of great need. How many social programs and how much magic pen orders in the name of great need does our president have to do before we should worry and make the comparison?

    In both cases, I think we are past the point where we should look at history and make sure we aren't repeating a very dark part of it.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 7, 2014 7:48 p.m.

    If you want to compare how Hitler annexed Austria, without a shot fired…. yes, the comparison is very close. But Hitler still is far worse than anything Putin has done. You may not like Putin's method, but genocide has not been one of them.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2014 6:56 p.m.

    On the other hand, maybe we should wait and see what Putin's next moves are. If he tries to annex any other parts of Ukraine, then Hillary is right about this.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2014 4:34 p.m.

    Clinton's charge is idiotic. Putin, for all his posturing, is reclaiming a piece of Russian real estate, which really is vital to Russian interests.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 7, 2014 4:17 p.m.

    Putin is not Hitler ..good heavens Hilary. Not even in the same universe. Hitler murdered 6 million Jews. Case closed. Putin is actually a tough, savvy, corrupt, sometimes brutal, KGB buy who has played Barack like a cheap violin.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    March 7, 2014 3:11 p.m.

    No Curmedgeon - Hillary is not comparing Obama to Chamberlain.

    Obama does not condone Putin's actions.

    However, Obama is quite reluctant to start World War III. And some of us think that's a good thing.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    March 7, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    Oh, I get it....
    It's a Conservative game....

    Hillary comparing the President of Russia to Hitler once -- Bad,
    Conservatives and Republicans comparing the President of the United States to Hitler DAILY -- Good!

    pathetic

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    March 7, 2014 2:08 p.m.

    Hitler seized the Sudetenland to start a war. Hitler felt that he FAILED at the Munich Conference.

    Putin is a nationalist, but I don't think he is trying to start WWIII.
    But looking at Russian history over the last 200 years, Russia is NOT going to back away from Crimea. They have military bases there, they have a right to keep troops there (through a treaty with the legally-elected Ukrainian governmnet) and they have a historical/nationalist argument of a political and cultural relationship with the region for two centuries.

    If the people of Crimea want to confederate with Russia, who really has the right to stop them? Does the United States and European Union really want to sacrifice life and treasure to bolster up the Ukrainian government and economy? To what ends?

  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    March 7, 2014 1:32 p.m.

    People compare Obama to Hitler every day in these comments. I can't see Clinton's use of the comparison suddenly offends people.

    Craig Clark hits the nail on the head. Comparisons to Hitler have become so overused and thus diluted that it's lost its meaning.

  • Curmedgeon Bountiful, UT
    March 7, 2014 1:19 p.m.

    Comparing Putin to Hitler is spot on when remembering what Hitter did in the late 30s. And since she is making that comparison, is she also comparing Obama to Chamberlain?

    Food for thought

  • E Sam Provo, UT
    March 7, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    Godwin's Law. Don't compare people to Hitler. It's always facile, and always wrong.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    March 7, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    I've heard the US using the same excuse "protecting our people and interests in the region" to send troops overseas.

    Insulting a person is not the way to open a dialog. Hillary has been spending to much time on social media sites.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    March 7, 2014 12:33 p.m.

    Liberal Ted . . . Hillary is a whole lot more intelligent than anything the Republicans have been able to produce lately.

    If you think Hillary is stupid, then how do you rate GW Bush?

    And what's this about Obama's " inability to be a real leader of the world?" Obama enjoys much more international respect than GW ever did.

    It is only American Right Wingers in their closed little world who share that negative opinion of Obama.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    March 7, 2014 12:29 p.m.

    Simply said no. Craig Clark says it well.

    "It’s just not helpful to make every single one of them into the latest incarnation of Der Fuhrer. It’s become so predictable that it doesn’t mean anything anymore."

    So I would add, just please stop with the Hitler comparisons on both sides. I would also add that Hillary could regret saying this if she finds herself President and having to deal with Putin face to face. Not too smart.

    However..it really takes a ton of gaul for the DN to print an article asking this question about Hillary when the right has compared such actions as delaying an ACA deadline to Hitler like dictates.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    March 7, 2014 12:21 p.m.

    Hey Sir Robin - Putin is NOT a Communist.

    The Soviet Union is dead.

    Putin is a nationalist, and a corporatist, who (although he may sometimes publicly express a distrust of capitalism) supports and is supported by major oligarchic capitalists.

    . . . Just Like Hitler was.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    No, there are similarities with regards to the argument put out by Russia with regards to Crimea but there's enough differences overall that it's not particularly helpful to suggest a comparison (not that it particularly matters much of course since she's not Secretary of State right now).

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    March 7, 2014 12:01 p.m.

    I think Putin likes what he sees in North Korea - the worship of Kin Jung Uhn.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    March 7, 2014 11:21 a.m.

    Hitler was fascist. Putin is communist. They are actually quite different and Hillary's comparison is wrong.

    What this is is Hillary (a liberal) attempting to paint Putin as conservative, which he is not. She is trying to distance Putin from her own political ideology. But the truth is their ideologies are very much the same. I'm not saying Hillary is going to invade another country - Putin is clearly less calculated than Hillary - but their viewpoints are remarkably similar.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    "What difference does it make?" said Hillary. I think we all know that Hillary isn't the brightest leader in the world. Putin isn't that great either. The thing with Putin is his ability to exert control and influence of several million Russians and hijack that government to build his empire. Or one could argue that Obamas inability to be a real leader of the world, makes it easier for Putin, Kim Jong Un, Pakistan, Iran etc to spread their power and influence.

    No doubt whatever happens, there will be problems down the road. Same issues we as human beings have had since we came to earth. Fight over land, territory, resources, ideas, government, money etc. None of that will change until each person changes their ways.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    March 7, 2014 11:10 a.m.

    Comparing every strongman dictator to Hitler has become knee jerk reaction to an invasion or an atrocity in some far off region on the map. How many times have we heard it? The roll call includes Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Milosevic, Kim Jong Ill, Qaddafi, Assad, etc. It’s just not helpful to make every single one of them into the latest incarnation of Der Fuhrer. It’s become so predictable that it doesn’t mean anything anymore.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    March 7, 2014 11:01 a.m.

    The Soviet Union lost 20 million people to Hitler. What Clinton said was offensive. Don't go shooting off your mouth. As a Democrat, it is easy for her to demonize people that she disagrees with. But this time, it isn't some GOP congressman. There could be some ugly repercussions.

  • funny_guy Vacaville, CA
    March 7, 2014 10:58 a.m.

    Clearly a case of the pot calling the kettle black. She should speak so highly of her husband's continuous deceit and deception. Elect Hillary president and she will grow a Hitler mustache and walk the goose step faster than you can shake a stick.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2014 10:48 a.m.

    The similar acts of aggression are not enough for a comparison. Hillary is posturing for the coming election, but she's not advocating that we go to war as we did against Hitler. With the coming election in mind, anything a candidate says (this will be the most transparent administration, I will cut the deficit in half, the WH will not be run by lobbyists, I will restore US credibility and other nations will like us, ad nauseum) must be taken with a grain of salt. Mr. Obama's classic line "After the election I will have more flexibility," summarizes politics, e.g. don't listen to anything in the campaign because they have no value after the election.

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    March 7, 2014 10:42 a.m.

    So Clinton says everyone wants to tone down the rhetoric and then she compares Putin to Hitler? Thats not exactly towning down the rhetoric.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    March 7, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    Hitler and NAZI analogies pop up on these posts all the time. Of course, the "Hitler" being referred to is almost always Obama. Surely DN allows Hitler comparisons from everyone as long as a civil dialogue is maintained.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    March 7, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    Of course, Putin's language about "protecting" ethnic Russians from non-existent threats is precisely analogous to Hitler's language about "protecting" Germans from the innocuous Czechs and Poles as he proceeded to take over their countries. Hillary's statement is just common knowledge.

  • Church member North Salt Lake, UT
    March 7, 2014 10:25 a.m.

    I think this author has an ax to grind with Hillary. Is he worried she might win in 2016? I think so.