I reviewed the political cartoon shown in the DN collection where EU members,
obviously in good health, are looking at a scrawny Putin and Saying "
Sometimes, I miss the old bear". Interesting.
Russia should be removed from the U.N. Security Council.
@shane... you know... you started out so well, with a reasonable statement, then
you went party line rhetoric. Do you really believe all the ills of the world
are caused by democrats, and the only time conservatives failed is because
somewhere in the past, liberals made them fail. Is the world really all that
black and white to you?Russia does have a point of leverage right
now. But that window will close. The North Sea developments are moving from
oil to Natural Gas. Even Shell just signed a contract to develop natural gas
resources right there in the Ukraine. The US - yes the evil Obama - is in the
process of approving 24 export permits for US natural gas - 6 have been approved
already. The US is worlds largest producer of natural gas, and soon will be the
worlds leading exporter of natural gas.It will take time for all
this capacity to come on line. Some as soon as 2015.. others not until 2020.
But Russia has a narrow window of leverage...and that window is closing.
This whole mantra of posting Putin as a strong leader is ridiculous. All the experts, yes all those who live in and study Russia have said this is
not in any way a planned invasion, and it's especially not part of a long
term excursion. It was entirely opportunistic with the internal political
struggles of Ukraine, and Putin is taking a huge chance. One poster
says Putin can control Europe by threatening to turn off the oil. If he did
that the Russian economy would crash entirely in a very short time.
Russia's economy is a one trick pony, oil. They need Europe as much as
Europe needs them. Just in the past few days Russia's futures
market has gone bizerk with the possibility of a loss of customers. But hey it's a great opportunity to spread more lies about Obama, who
cares what the truth is. there is only one truth that matters...we hate Obama.
The echo chamber of right wingness is just going nuts. One month
it's, "why is Obama so angry", the next month, " Obama is too
weak". "He's a dictator with executive orders! "He's weak
and doesn't do anything". How dare he do anything with Syria!"
"How dare he not do anything about Russia!"Ok, we get it.
It's opposite day for 8 years. Don't forget to put up your toys.
Sounds like "just blame Bush" is still the game with some people....
@Shane333Cedar Hills, UTHmmm...You know, this is all
looking very familiar...as if something very, very similar had happened just in
the last 80 years....12:45 p.m. March 5, 2014==========
Hmmmm, Why don't stop complaining and enlist in the
military why don't 'cha?Just like Limbaugh, Beck, and
Hannity did...NOT! ever.As aveteran, nothing pains me more than this
sort of over the top rhetoric from the Chickenhawks who never go to war on the
right.Let alone HOW they plan to pay for all these little global
boondoggles without Increasing the Size of Government or Raising any taxes.And GW Bush not doing anything about Russia and Georgia because he was
busy with CLINTON'S? financial mess?You mean -- like that $1.8
Trillion SURPLUS he left Bush to burn?Just when I thought I'd
heard it all?...
Remember when Romney told us Russia was a risk?Barack said it
wasn't.Once again it was a swing and miss for barack.
Geez, I don't know...Imagine yourself as a Russian living in
the city of Khoroshevo-Mnevniki 10-20 years ago.You are reading Pravda,
and asking these similar questions yourself -- Hmmm, What are we
going to do about that Pres. Bush?If he invades Kuwait, should we attack
America?If his son Jr. attacks and invades Iraq, should we attack
America?If we Russians just sit back and let them take it, we
will look weak to the rest of the world.Now -- you have the
audicty to sit there and think Putin or Russia is the Global Bullies?
Bush couldn't react to the Georgia incursion because he was being
spuriously maligned for the financial crisis? Sheesh, just when you think
you've heard them all!As to Reagan being able to negotiate from
a position of strength, don't blame Obama for his position. America's
ability to negotiate from a position of moral and military strength died in the
sands of Iraq. The decline in America's global leadership is the direct
outcome of neo-conservative overreach. Let the EU deal with this.
It's their doorstep, and frankly their mess for botching up economic
negotiations with Ukraine's previous president which lead to the crisis.
CHS 85,Reagan demonstrated that the use of force is often unnecessary to
accomplish significant things in foreign affairs. The difference is that Reagan
operated from a position of strong leadership and respectability, at home and
abroad. Obama has neither leadership nor respectability abroad.
Mr Bass,You are correct that the Bush administration, too, was weak at the
time of the Georgia invasion. Bush was dealing with being blamed by the
misinformed for a financial industry crisis created largely in 1994 by the
Democrats and Bill Clinton.That doesn't change the fact that
the world considers Obama to be laughable today, with his apology tours and
erratic foreign policy.
@ShaneSo what should we do again? Invade Russia? Start a major war with an
unstable country, who has nuclear weapons? Or is this really because you want to
complain about Obama?
I expect to see Mr. Putin do as he pleases. He's a man with a plan and the
resources to back it up. He's on his home ground or has short Lines of
Communication and a large and well equipped military at hand.This,
and I think it could be reasonably defended, and previous administrations are
and were novices in foreign affairs and diplomacy. They have no plan, some
think no clue, as to what to do. We and our "allies" are weak
militarily, have long extended LOC's and no treasury to finance much more
than a news conference and plane fare for SecState to scold people like a small
house dog on a window sill barking at people from inside the window.We are about to relive history, that boring subject the younger generation
skipped in school. Elections matter, candidates matter. Maybe
sometime, someday we'll field candidates who have resumes that matter.
That's a tough question
Shane333 writes: "...and more of the same impotence from Obama."The obvious question in regards to incompetence is: why didn't
Bush/Cheney do anything about the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008?Where was the right wing blame pointed to the White House in 2008?
I think we should immediately send in every available military person in Europe.
I think a full-fledged invasion is all that will make the
(non-military-serving) conservatives happy. Anything short of an invasion is
Hmmm...Russia invades a neighbor, South Ossetia (part of Georgia), and
creates an occupied satellite region of influence. The rest of the world cries
foul but essentially does nothing in the hopes of pacifying the aggressor. Next, Russia invades another neighbor, Crimea (part of Ukraine), and creates
an occupied satellite region of influence. The rest of the world cries foul but
essentially does nothing in the hopes of pacifying the aggressor.You
know, this is all looking very familiar...as if something very, very similar had
happened just in the last 80 years....
Perhaps the more pertinent question is, "what is Putin going to do to his
neighbors?"Let's face it, Putin is in the position of power
and he knows it. Putin has the oil and natural gas resources that the rest of
Europe depend on. All Putin has to do is threaten to turn off the flow, and all
of western Europe will roll over and do as commanded like well trained pet
dogs.The US can moan and wail as much as it wants, but the world
knows that President Obama is completely impotent when it comes to international
affairs. Putin already established that in the handling of Syria. While Obama
engages in apology tours, Putin flexes his country's muscles and has no
problem expanding Russia's sphere of influence.Expect to see
more of the same expansion from Putin, and more of the same impotence from