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Published: Tuesday, March 4 2014 6:48 p.m. MST

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Richie
Saint George, UT

@open minded Mormon. You just asked the fatal question. My father was wounded in WW I, I lost an uncle in WW I, a cousin in WW II, an in-law in Vietnam and good friends in Korea. Oh, by the way I was shot at by the Chinese for 9 months in Korea Please be quiet because you are offending mine and every other veteran's sensibilities.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Is this a rhetorical question?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Super excited about starting World War III and issuing in the second coming, conservatives want war instead of diplomacy again who would have guessed.

"We don’t need troops on the ground, just ship all that used equipment from Afgan and Iraq and drop it off in Ukraine."

That's a super Idea to escalate things.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

Boots on the ground is the only answer. Armed conflict is always the best plan. Ground conflict in Eurasia is just a delight to contemplate. At least it is for those who don't actually have to go or send their loved ones off to fight.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Father of Four: Although I admire your patriotism, I am one that believes you were part of the war machine that sent you there! There is a difference, however, in setting up standing armies throughout the world, which is what the warmongers want, including our invasion of Iraq, and letting the world know that we are a nation that will not sit idly by and watch bullies conquer countries. Obama doesn't believe in America as a Constitutional Republic built on freedom and God-given rights. As such, he is weak, something Putin will now take advantage of. If Netanyahu were President of the United States, Ukraine would be a safe place. Period!

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

I am dumbfounded by either the lack of memory here, or just how unaware so many seem to be of the regional history here. This "behavior" by Russia predates both Obama and Bush. This same crowd has made the same types of moves into not only Ukraine in the past, but most recently Georgia, Chechnya, the former Yugoslavia, Czech Republic, Poland, and most notably, Afghanistan. Russia even have threatened Finland.

If any of you think Obama had influence here either way, you surely haven't been paying attention. This is nothing new here. Thinking Obama, or Bush, influenced this type of thinking, just isn't based on any factual record of history.

We are rally stretching partisanship (and history) to make this a US driven event.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

We as a nation will never, ever, ever learn about meddling in foreign squabbles. Same conflict, new location.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Crimea is not Ukraine. Crimea has been in Russian hands since the 18th Century. It is their most important naval base and it is their only all-weather port. Putin's move against Crimea is an act of desperation - Russia is in real trouble if it loses this asset. So I doubt Putin's actions are in the main a response to Obama's policies.

Please note I do not favor Russia here because it is "socialist." It isn't, and it practices a very degenerate brand of capitalism. I simply think it's not in our interests to back Russia into a corner on this matter.

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

I think Obama's foreign policy has been one of his weakest areas.

But look at the hand he was dealt. Bush's muscular foreign policy left the US overextended with absolutely no credibility internationally. Obama has naturally steered the other direction. No, I don't give him high marks for his efforts to rehabilitate US diplomacy. But Obama's inability to deal with Putin is without doubt the direct and inevitable result of 8 years of neocon policy preceding him.

Even Bush realized that he had no leverage by the twilight of his administration when Putin beat the stuffing out of Georgia with barely a peep from the US.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

If Netanyahu were President of the United States, Ukraine would be a safe place.

Cause Netanyahu would never invade a neighbor and bulldoze their homes?

I'm always amazed by conservative ideals?

Shoot first then lets look at the situation. Gotta love the "We're the neighborhood bully" how dare Putin act like America.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

In six months we will have gotten through this just fine. Putin will have overstepped drastically. He will have done grave harm to his economy, to Russia's position in the world and the Ukraine will be firmly aligned with Europe, and thousands of America boys will still be alive and pursuing their dreams.

Hard to tell where Crimea will be, but it won't matter.

True to form the conservatives and Republicans will still be running around shouting..but, but, weak, Ukraine, Benghazi, IRS, etc. etc. etc.

Sven
Morgan, UT

Ultra Bob said:

"The article asks the wrong question. The proper question we should be asking is: Has the conservative war of 24/7 hate against President Obama saddened our foreign friends and emboldened our enemies.

When such a large contingent of Americans rise up against our President and work openly to prevent him from doing anything, could it not have effect on foreign peoples?"

Yeah, the same support liberals showed President Bush during his time in office. The movie depicting the assassination of President Bush (which was celebrated by liberals) wasn't hateful at all. Yep, the support liberals showed Bush was a model for us all to follow.

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

The "Peace Through Strength" mantra sounds great. Until you get the bill. We're still nowhere close to paying off Reagan's tab. Yet the same folks who rail against the national debt and government spending are the first ones to advocate blowing it on military hardware.

US deterrence worked great to protect western Europe for 50 years. It didn't work so well for the Hungarians in '56, the Czechs in '68, the Afghans in '79, the Chechens on and off for 20 years, and the Georgians in '08. The US has *never* been in a position to leverage Russia out of taking action in its own periphery. Anyone advocating a new Cold War against Putin simply has no understanding of the military and political implications of their demands.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

BlueDevil,
just because the behavior started before BO was elected does not mean he can disregard it.

Open Minded,
thank you for your service, but tell us, were you in the same branch of the military as Benedict Arnold? or was it the same one BO served in?

Unreconstructed Reb
Chantilly, VA

"thank you for your service, but tell us, were you in the same branch of the military as Benedict Arnold?"
-lost in DC

I served in the same military branch as Benedict Arnold. So did Washington, Grant, and Eisenhower. Just what are you trying to say? That Army vets who disagree with your views should be tainted by a 200 year old association? Chickenhawks are so pro-military until a vet falls out of their political lockstep.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

There's no question Putin is very emboldened.

The only question is... what did President Obama and his weak response to other situations in the world have to do with it.

Maybe that had nothing to do with Putin's confidence that he could invade and the US, NATO, UN, etc, would do nothing.

Maybe it was all the successful Olympics, the nostalgia from the Opening Ceremony glamorizing the USSR's glory days... I don't know. But he's acting pretty bold.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Obama detractors excoriating the President for not doing enough have been careful not to spell out exactly what they would do if it was their call. This is no occasion for being coy. Do they themselves know or have anything to put on the table?

Military action? They hastily disavow they are advocating that.

Diplomatic pressure? They equate that with Barack Obama doing nothing.

Economic sanctions? They don’t say. They’re pretty vague on everything.

Until they have something concrete to suggest, I’ll stick with showing restraint while keeping options open. That’s not only being prudent. That’s showing strength.

Noodlekaboodle
Poplar Grove, UT

Anyone who says Putin is emboldened by Obama is looking for an outcome that isn't there. Let's examine the real reasons that Putin sent troops into Crimea. First, Crimea was a Russian territory, prior to the area being assumed by Ukraine, the reason it's even part of Ukraine is Khrushchev gave it to them in 1954, prior to the breakup of the USSR, prior to the USSR breakup it was no big deal. After the breakup the Russian fleet was allowed to continue using Crimea as a base. It's the only year round military port the Russians have access to. The other issues is that Crimea is the convergence point for Russian natural gas pipelines. If you look at the facts, with political unrest in the Ukraine, and the possibility of a western alignment, why wouldn't Russia be nervous? *con'd*

Noodlekaboodle
Poplar Grove, UT

*part 2* It's not like loosing that region cuts them off from their entire fleet and a good portion of their energy supplies. Wait, yes it does. Regan, Bush, Clinton or Obama, it wouldn't have mattered. I don't support what Russia is doing, but it's not as black and white as the people who want to start a was with Russia claim.

Sven
Morgan, UT

Interesting that the Obama supporters cannot, and will not address Obama's dismal foreign policy. Nope, all they can do instead is ask the irrelevant question: "What branch of the military did you serve in?" Since you're asking, what branch did Obama serve in?

Even The Washington Post is calling Obama out for his lack of understanding of foreign policy, and how the world actually works in their Op-ed: "President Obama’s foreign policy is based on fantasy"

We began losing the respect of the world's thugs when Obama began his administration with his embarrassing apology tour. Equally embarrassing was his groveling to Russian President Medvedev: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

Part of Obama's "flexibility" with Russia included gutting our military

All Obama has garnered from his apology tour, weakness, indecisiveness, and continual lines in the sand, is the ridicule of the world...namely our enemies.

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