Published: Wednesday, March 5 2014 12:00 a.m. MST
Greed will always be among us, even in the church. The church rises and falls
because of it every few hundred years and scripture is quite clear about it.
People can't understand plain and simple things once they have made up
their minds to seek riches above the kingdom of God.The only valid
doctrinal reason to seek riches is so you can give them to those that can't
gather enough of the Lords blessings for themselves or to support the church in
some way. But go ahead, we're all judged on the same scriptures. I'm
more comfortable taking Jesus at his word than pretending he meant something
else than what he said.
Why should someone who doesn't work hard and improve himself receive a
government mandated raise in pay?Because he's a fellow citizen, a
fellow human being, a brother and the least among us. Because people mess up,
make mistakes, run their lives badly, and yet still have needs and a deserve a
place at our table. And no, government doesn't manage this central task of
I have a theory that giving back to your communities winds up creating more
wealth, which then leads to giving more to your communities. An accumulation of
money doesn't do any good unless it blesses the lives of others. I also believe that we let the idea of hard work get in the way of fairly
compensating the workers who put in that hard work. We should not have to work
two or three jobs just to pay our living expenses. I truly believe that if we
paid people a better minimum wage, they would be in a better situation to
improve their skills to advance into better-paying jobs. Too many people are
stuck going from one job to another without having time to learn new skills.
What a strange argument. People arguing about scriptures. Okay all you
Christians, if Christ came back what do you honestly think He would think about
our capitalist system? What do you think He would think about the ultra wealthy?
What do you think He would think about the argument that minimum wage for people
is a bad thing, yet tax cuts for the rich are good? That food stamps for the
poor is a bad thing, yet massive spending on a war machine is a good thing? I
honestly do not think that He would care one bit about capitalism or communism
or socialism or any other economic system and your petty bickering about them.
Do you really think He would be appreciative of a system that puts so many of
its people in prison? That has such huge disparities of wealth? That poisons the
land and water and air. What do you think He would think of a system that puts
profit above all else. And what do you honestly think He would think of people
that defend this? What do you honestly think?
To "mark" Christ would be ok with the capitalism. He wouldn't like
the system that we have right now that has so much socialism sucking the life
out of capitalism, and is destroying the souls of people.If He
wouldn't "care one bit about capitalism or communism or socialism or
any other economic system", then why did He tell the Prophets that
Socialism, communism, and other similar collectivist philosophies are wrong?You are ignoring history. Under capitalism (not fascism because that is
a mild form of socialism) you don't have people killing other people.
However, every time government enforced collectivism is tried, it fails and
usually ends up killing thousands or millions of people.Do you
really think that a person who preached so much about individualism would agree
with collectivist philosophies?
First of all, when you say "prophets" you are talking about LDS leaders.
But even there you ever hear about the commune system called the United Order?
Of course you have. Historically most Christian societies have practiced some
form of communal living. But that's neither here nor there. CHRIST never
said ANYTHING about capitalism or communism or socialism. But again, that's
neither here nor there. My question was do Christians really think
that if He came back today would he be supportive of systems that are set up to
deliver so much wealth and power to so few, while so many labor for poverty
wages while their masters flaunt unimaginable wealth? What do you think He would
think about so much wealth being sucked into the war machine, while children do
not have enough to eat. What do you think He would think of the people that
fight for and support a system like this? Love your enemy, turn the other cheek,
give your enemy your coat. Take care of the poor, the homeless, visit those in
prison. There are no qualifiers to these things. Do you really think He was just
When the minimum wage becomes a livable wage there is no longer an incentive for
people to better themselves through higher education or vocational training.
Granted, there are some jobs that should pay more than minimum due to inherent
hazards, but the minimum wage shouldn't allow people to become too
complacent or comfortable - it should motivate them to reach higher.
Mike a person making $7.25 working 40 hours a week is making $1256 a month. I
multiplied 7.25 to 40 and then 52 and then divided by 12. That is gross. Even
one fourth of that is $314. There is no way you can rent anything for $314 a
month. And you have not paid social security, medical insurance or medical
costs, car insurance which was not likely a part of life when wages were less
than $2 n hour. I'm as republican as they come but if you want people off
assistance they need to earn more than this or rents and other expenses have to
come way down for that to happen. Too many getting SNAP have jobs. For $750 to
be 25% of a person gross wage for housing they would need to earn $17.30 for a
40 hour week. We haven't even considered taxes. I know most making this
amount don't pay much if anything for federal but there are sales, social
security, state and property depending on circumstances and location. Then they
are supposed to save and give besides. Twenty hours at minimum wage earns less a
year than college tuition. Different world.
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