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Published: Monday, March 3 2014 1:42 p.m. MST

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Salt Lake City, UT

The Ukraine is north of Iraq. Whoever is advocating boots and Bush type show of force on the ground should grab a gun and head over personally.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

This is what's wrong with conservatives/republicans, they are a one trick pony..always.

Leadership means one thing to them, stand up push your chest out, and say something aggressive.

There's actually a very reasoned opinion that the one who has made a major mistake here is Putin. Ukraine is not a small insignificant country and Ukrainians do not want to be dictated to by Russia. There are some who want to be more closely aligned with Russia than Europe but none want to be annexed to Russia.

Russia may have crossed over the wrong side of that line with troops, and of course if that's the case aggressive action by America would be worse.

But hey none of that means anything to American conservatives.

Puff your chest out, strut, be nasty, and if none of that makes you feel better send somebody else's kid to die.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

The geopolitics of Russia’s sphere of influence favor Putin although international sentiment clearly does not. If Putin's goal is limited to control of Crimea and he is prepared to pay a price in world relations, he can probably make it stick. His course of action is more perilous if it appears he has greater ambitions on parts of the Ukraine beyond Crimea.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Obama will do nothing. That is his game plan. He will do absolutely nothing.
•3:09 p.m. March 3, 2014
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Did Russia or the Ukraine attack us?
Did Congress authorize a War?

So then,
Obama is doing the right thing, and is sustaining the Constitution.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

This test/challenge from our old nemesis was pretty much setup by Obama's weakness and proving time after time that he would do nothing to enforce the line-in-the-sand he has drawn on so many other important stands he has made.

Every time he has drawn a line (Syria, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, ACA, NSA, IRS, etc) the people he warned have walked right over the line almost as soon as he drew it. This is starting to remind me of the Carter Administration (on foreign affairs weakness).

We are almost right back where we were BEFORE Reagan now (in tensions with Russia). And it's not just Russia that's challenging our President now.. it's a long list of nations.

I hope we it doesn't escalate. I hope there is a reduction in tensions before it all boils over. But I can't say I'm super optimistic.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

@2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

We are almost right back where we were BEFORE Reagan now (in tensions with Russia). And it's not just Russia that's challenging our President now.. it's a long list of nations.

8:52 a.m. March 4, 2014

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More hyperpole from the chicken little right.

I was in the USAF during Reagan.
I sat on the Alert Pad 24/7, fully fueled and fully loaded for a full blown Nuclear attack.

I've flown over the North Pole in invasions forces, testing sand seeing where and how far we could penetrate into Soviet Airspace before being caught and intercepted and escorted out out by Russinas.

I've been targetd and tracked for hours, days, weeks, and months over the North Sea by Soviet Antonov An-12 gunships.

I've lived in Europe supporting NATO for Nuclear, Chemical, Biological and conventional warfare with the Soviets.

Enough of the AM radio hysteria for ratings hyperbole.
We aren't anywhere near that level of concern...

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

What should President Obama do?

Follow the Republican/Neo-Con playbook...

Of course...

The right-wing propaganda outlets whip up the base...

Check.

Neo-cons in Congress call the POTUS out...

Check.

Wait a minute.

The Republican base and the Republicans in Congress report we are broke...

However... it seems there's always money available for the next war...and the next war...and the next war...

An DN approved op-ed writer earlier this week described Republican policy as incoherent and duplicitous.

He was right.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Yep --
just re-read the United States Constitution...

CONGRESS is to declare war.

Is the GOP Lead House of Representatives willing to put their money where their mouth is?
or
is this just more political rhetoric and badgering to whip up the mindless base?

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Mcdugall, intervention
Offer solutions?

You really think BO is trolling this board looking for answers to his problems?

Now THAT’s funny!

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@2bits
Yeah, Obama's so weak that just the thought of him being president made Russia willing to attack Georgia in summer 2008...

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Open Minded Mormon,
Are you assuming our bombers and missiles not fueled and ready to go today?? I think you would be wrong.

I have a hard time imagining a guy like you in the military. Well maybe the air force...

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Tensions have reduced since 1991, but I can assure you our bombers are still fueled and ready to go, and we are flying opps daily. And we still spy on the Russians regularly.

What has changed is... Putin's attitude. It's getting more pre-1991 all the time.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Really?
I'm curious at to where you get your information?
'cause I work at a military AFB and we haven't had a bird on alert in over 22 years.

Current Threat level is :

INFOCON: 3
FPCON: Alpha

[In case you may not know, INFOCON is e-hacking, and our dear little Corporate friends in Communist China are responsible for 12,000 cyber-attacks per DAY.]

Russia is no threat to America at all,
China is our Corporate friend in WalMart sheep's clothing.

intervention
slc, UT

@lost

What's funny is the lengths some will go to to not answer a simple question. Did I any ware indicate I thought Obama visited these boards? Since you decided to insert yourself into the conversation do you care to answer the question, what exactly do you think we should be doing? Or do want to continue to dodge a straight forward question?

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