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Published: Monday, March 3 2014 1:42 p.m. MST

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lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

BO has failed every test he has faced. Why would we expect anything different here?

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

This is going to be a tough one. It's hard to imagine how this situation could be backed down. I wish the President all the best for the benefit of us all, especially the folks of the Ukraine.

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

K T Mcfarland at Fox news has a few ideas that the President could use - but I doubt the Pres. ever reads Fox news, or any of his "believers" for that matter.

So, instead, we'll probably have a "campaign speech" disguised as a "policy speech".

mcdugall
Murray, UT

All the BO hate is really obnoxious. Rather than being part of the problem, be part of the solution. Offer possible suggestions and ideas, calling someone out without providing alternatives is amateurish. This is an extremely difficult situation and outside of declaring war, every move has to be calculated to drive out the best possible solution. I do agree, that the longer BO waits, the potential for increased damage becomes greater.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"...Many, including Ian Bremmer writing in the Business Insider, are concluding that Russia’s military intervention into Ukraine is the most “seismic geopolitical event” since 9/11. What will Obama do?...."
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Steady, steady. That's the first rule of crisis management when excited people are losing their heads. The last thing we need are knee jerk 911 comparisons. Obama is hearing a lot of free advice generously offered from different quarters urging him to do or say something quickly and strongly. Only a foolish leader gets stampeded by voices of hysteria.

jfunes
Honduras, 00

Your point of view is dramatic. President Obama is a peaceful man. USA is not the senior and powerful authority around the word.

liahona
Westbank, BC

There is nothing that Obama can do. All Putin has to do is thumb his nose at Obama and do whatever he wants.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

McDugall: The problem is the vacuum of moral leadership that BO has led which brings us to this precipice. When a bully is in town, the worst thing you can do is get out of his way. The bully has to know that there is someone in town that can't be pushed around. Once the bully realizes this, the bully looks for someone else to fool! BO has not shown any strength representative of the best ideals in America, unless passivity is considered a virtue. America is the de facto leader in this world, except when their leaders kowtow to their own petulance and self-absorption. For me, I take great comfort in knowing that in this instance, unlike so many others, politics and a speech aren't going to get him votes. He has to be responsible here, something he is not used to being.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Didn't we learn anything from Vietnam and the Bush Wars?

Not his problem,
Not our problem.

He is not the President of the "Ukrainian States of America",
or
the "United Nations".

Ukrainie is not even in NATO.

If you don't President Obama to be King of World,
or America being a Police State,
Stop making him one,
Stop making America one.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

On August 15, 2013, CBS News reported about Bengahzi, "Most people were like down in the Situation Room and [Mr. Obama] was like, 'I'm not going to be down there, I can't watch this entire thing,'" Reggie Love said at a forum at UCLA last month. "We must have played 15 hands, 15 games of spades,"

On December 15, 2013, Jerome R. Corsi wrote about the overthrow of Egypt: ". . . reports indicate the former secretary of state is being investigated by Egypt’s attorney general.

Hisham Barakat’s criminal complaint against Clinton alleges she conspired with the wife of former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi – and the Muslim Brotherhood – to encourage rebels in the nation."

On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Garry Kasparov wrote about Obama and the Ukraine: "There are always a million reasons for inaction, countless rationalizations for helplessness. Being resolute doesn’t require excuses.”

Obama will do nothing. That is his game plan. He will do absolutely nothing.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

banderson,

"....The problem is the vacuum of moral leadership that BO has led which brings us to this precipice. When a bully is in town, the worst thing you can do is get out of his way. The bully has to know that there is someone in town that can't be pushed around...."
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The past two days, I’ve heard a lot of such criticism of Obama coming from Congressional Republicans. The GOP was comparatively restrained in 2008 when the U.S. watched as Russian troops invaded Georgia. George W. Bush was President then. It's remarkable how having the President be from the opposite party can cast an entirely different light on a matter.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"On August 15, 2013, CBS News reported about Bengahzi, "Most people were like down in the Situation Room and [Mr. Obama] was like, 'I'm not going to be down there, I can't watch this entire thing,'" Reggie Love said at a forum at UCLA last month. "We must have played 15 hands, 15 games of spades,""

Good for him! This shows the absolute wisdom of this president! Let the professionals work! Stay out of their way. This president, no president since Ike, is trained to deal with the tactics and command of a situation like was happening in Benghazi. People are in place that are competent to deal with things like Benghazi. If you are a politician, let them! Stay out if their way, and if they need something they will tell you! President Obama did the exact right thing.

"Obama will do nothing. That is his game plan. He will do absolutely nothing."

There are worse things he could do. Hopefully he does very little. I'm sure he will support some move by the UN. He has been talking to Putin. But other then that what do you want him to do, Richards? Banderson?

Ralph
Salt Lake City, UT

Richards and Banderson understand international diplomacy much better than someone like the President of the United States.

Everything bad that happens in the world is Barack Obama's fault, doncha know!

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

I feel like the reason some people aren't saying what we should do is because they're waiting for Obama to take a clear position... and then they'll take the opposite.

Fact is this situation is complicated and full of nuance, even outside of Ukraine. For instance, one might consider sanctions, but getting everyone to agree to it would be difficult since Germany and others heavily rely on natural gas from Russia.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Why are we involved in the Ukraine?

Who are the American Businessmen wanting to get into the Ukraine?

Don't we have other matters that we should be doing?

E Sam
Provo, UT

How is the Ukraine our problem? What vital American interests are at stake? Worst case scenario, the Crimean people join Russia via plebiscite. The Ukraine gets a little smaller. Big deal. Since there's nothing that this President, or any other President could do, how is this a "critical test of leadership?

intervention
slc, UT

@banderson and Richards

Please do tell us given you infinite wisdom on all matters what exactly should Obama be doing, what should the Us be doing?

David
Centerville, UT

"At stake is not only the future of Ukraine, where the chaotically disorganized opposition to Yanukovich is waiting and wondering, but in the Middle East and throughout Asia, where many leaders have taken to questioning America's commitment to the world,” writes Hirsh. Then after Obama pledged and backed down on Syria, “… Putin and other world leaders appear to view him as indecisive and unwilling to take risks.”

Wait, how can this be?

I thought Obama was loved all over the world. Every world leader listened in rapt attention to every word our president spoke. Just speaking, he could make change. Just speaking something showed our commitment to the world. In fact, Obama has shown the world that his words are so powerful that he/we don't need to follow up with any action.

Everything he has done has been successful and brilliant.

He'll figure out something for Ukraine.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

IMO the POTUS is out classed as a leader. He is good on campaigning but a light-weight as a leader. Most politicians are. Putin appears to have a plan, the tools and will to carry it out.

We have little if any means to project influence that far away. We have no treasury to finance it, we have weak allies who have to live in the same forest with the Russian bear.

I expect a lot of bluster and some French from the Secretary of State but in the end, it will be as the Russian Bear wants it to be. Our troops are weary from deployment over many years. There is little support from the administration and congress - pay cuts, benefit cuts, troop draw-downs, the foreshadowing of base closures and domestic unrest over ACA.

I expect SecState to mimic PM Neville Chamberlain while in Kiev and come home with an agreement proclaiming “peace in our time”.

History is a harsh teacher but fools will have no other.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

These comments clearly reflect that many readers have very selective sources. In fact, whether Obama is doing well or not, Putin is surely doing poorly in this experience. Both the Russian Rubble and markets had near free falls in their value. A recent Kremlin survey of Russians put the approval of action in the ukraine at only 15%, 73% of Russians don't approve. Only 2% were undecided.

The only upside to these actions is that Putin will be able to keep his base in Crimea. What he has lost is the support and trust of most Ukrainians - even recent poll numbers show ethnic Russians in Ukraine do not support the occupation.

So to say Putin has won..... that is clearly a stretch. He got to keep bases in Crimea, but lost the rest of the country, and perhaps lost Russia membership in the G8. The Czech Republic has already cancelled a multi-billion dollar energy project with Russia. He has hardly won.

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