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Published: Sunday, March 2 2014 12:00 a.m. MST

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pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

This in contrast to Linquist's story of a gentlemen who had a part time job (working full time hours) who had health insurance but was now going to have to get a another part time job to fill his hours (hours he was all ready working).

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Yes --
The Conservatives see you are a lazy "Taker" Paul.
Corporate Welfare is not,
and is highly encouraged to Wall Street, Defense contactors, Banks and Corporations.

As a tax payer,
I feel blessed to have contributed is some small way.
I feel our Nation is also blessed for it.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Yes -- The GOP labels you as a lazy taker.

I feel blessed - and our Nation as a whole has been blessed - to have contributed in some small way.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Who pays for Medicaid? It is paid from taxes levied on citizens. The government does not pay one dime. It is funded through the taxes earned from the toil of those who work.

Yes, Medicaid pays for medical help that some individuals cannot pay themselves, but the thanks for that service should be to the workers who paid for it, not to the Governor nor to the President. The Governor pays taxes into the system. The President pays taxes into the system, but their share represents almost nothing compared to the share that they require from those of us who work.

Who should pay for medical expenses for family members who are need medical help? Shouldn't the family, including the extended family, pay for everything that they can? The letter writer said that 10% of his medical expenses were paid by family and friends. How much has he repaid after having the transplant? How much has his family paid after his life was saved? Does he have any intention of working part-time at that hospital and to "gift" his wages to Medicaid?

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

Thanks, Paul, for giving us a real-life example of why Medicare is so needed. Of course, the best solution is still to provide health-care to all through a single-payer system, but as long as the GOP can gerrymander its way to a majority in the House, that will never happen.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@LDS Liberal
It is not a "contribution" it is tax.

It is money taken from another person by the power of government.

If you "contributing" that way you are not living true religion, you are not charitable.

Didn't scrooge claim he paid taxes for workhouses and prisons and so forth?

And in long run you run out of money that you take from anther person. NONE of that is beneficial.

The right. the "conservative" understand there are those that truly need help. But taking from another person is not the solution nor the answer. We can do better.

The founding fathers warned us about voting ourselves other people money and bad that leads to.

A warning we all should understands and take head.

Not even Jesus took from others.

Dependence is not a good thing, nor coveting and taking another person's money or property for your or other benefit. It is just wrong, and the wrong way.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Paul,

Great letter. Hang in there.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

@mike richards. I don't understand you are concerned that this person who received medical attention is not pulling his weight, but in another post you think it is unfair for larger families to pull their weight and pay more for their children's education.

This gentlemen and the large families are both receiving a government subsidize but one subsidize is okay and the other is not okay. Why?

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

"How much has he repaid after having the transplant? How much has his family paid after his life was saved? "

What you're suppose to re-pay your insurance company now (private or public)?

Sometimes this whole individual thing really goes off the rails.

We are in this together Mike, like it or not. Here's a person who did everything in their power and still..

You do realize that a kidney transplant is at least hundreds of thousands of dollars. So let's say his parents take all of their life/retirement savings and help him pay for the procedure. Now what for the parents? Or is a bus driver suppose to be able to save for their own retirement plus save for any and all emergencies that may arise not only in their own lives but in the lives of all their children?

Most of us here disagree with you most of the time, but this is pure nonsense.

"If you "contributing" that way (taxes) you are not living true religion, you are not charitable."

Truth this is not a lick better.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

Why is it that if you take advantage of a tax break and you're a corporation, you're a smart businessman, but if you take advantage of something you need to not be hungry, you're a moocher?
-Jon Stewart

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Great Letter Paul!
Like yourself, my wife has been diagnosed with end stage renal failure, unfortunately her condition and age leaves her unqualified for transplant! I for one am more than pleased that my tax dollars contributed to your recovery. As previous poster LDS Liberal states "The Conservatives see you are a lazy "Taker" Paul" and Poster Mike Richards asks "Shouldn't the family, including the extended family, pay for everything that they can? The letter writer said that 10% of his medical expenses were paid by family and friends. How much has he repaid after having the transplant? How much has his family paid after his life was saved?"
I ask another question, who cares who gets thanked? Who cares who gets repaid? The fact remains that a life was saved that otherwise would have been lost, a family will be raised by a both a mother and a father and a human being will live on to be a contributor and productive member of society! One last question, Why is it that in the posts of the nay sayers I never see the quote" If I were in Paul's shoes I would pay my share?

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

One last question, Why is it that in the posts of the nay sayers I never see the quote" If I were in Paul's shoes I would pay my share?

Actually, the appropriate question would be: "If I were in Paul's shoes, would I just sit there and quietly die a painful death?"

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

Perhaps Mike R. has never had to use his insurance for a large operation or had a dependent have to go into the hospital for some serious illness.

Maybe he doesn't realize that the insurance company is taking money from the healthy insured and paying for the sick ones (after taking a hefty profit!). It is always a "share the pay" program to pay for the wellness of the population, whether by insurance companies or the government.

Wonder
Provo, UT

@Shaun -- Don't you know that entitlements that benefit ME are always ok. It's entitlements that benefit other people that are socialistic. Tea Partiers are good at mental gymnastics.

one old man
Ogden, UT

I simply cannot believe that there are actually people like Mike R and a few others who are as cruel and unfeeling as they seem to be. What's even more disturbing is that I have to sit beside some just like that at church on Sunday. Don't they even make an effort to understand the Scriptures?

I guess all we can do is keep hoping that someday they will see the light and repent. But will they need to be struck blind before they will even try?

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

MR's letter yesterday is just oozing compassion. How Ironic... or not!?

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Well Put "GZE and one old man"!

akline
Eagle Mountain, UT

The expansion has nothing to do with reducing the Federal Debt. It is 100% politics. Two reports including one from BYU state the best option if for Utah to accept the full expansion and not try to coe up with some make shift plan to cover some or to have insurance companies do it. The rules and knowledge is already there it is not need to reinvent the wheel. We take Federal money for Hill AFB, highways, schools, unemployment insurance, drought assistance, fire assistance and many more but not to help the working poor and don't get me wrong this is for the working poor, they have jobs, some two and three, it increases the number of people who can got it up to 138% of poverty. Remember the legislature all have taxpayer supported health care and they will have the vote, but not one is willing to give up their coverage.

RFLASH
Salt Lake City, UT

People complain about Obamacare and medicaid and they think that they will never use it? I have decent insurance from work, but as soon as I leave work, it is gone. when I reach retirement, I am on my own! That is when people need it the most. So, without an affordable way to get insurance, elderly people suffer! Without medicaid, it would be bad! good people, like my dad, who had to work so hard that his back is all crippled! Benefits go away when you leave work! So, what, he should have to go without help? nobody can pay what it costs! The room I was in the hospital cost over $18,000 for four days! Is there something wrong? It is all about money! Who cares about human life? People like that Lockhart are elected to serve her fellow man and she walks all over the people who need her most! Why shouldn't we use the taxes we pay to help others, it will be our turn someday! They would rather worry about giving all to the rich! Last year, the government dished out 4 billion dollars in subsidies to the rich oil companies!

airnaut
Everett, 00

@Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

How much has he repaid after having the transplant? How much has his family paid after his life was saved? Does he have any intention of working part-time at that hospital and to "gift" his wages to Medicaid?

11:47 a.m. March 2, 2014

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I think you have sunk to an all-time low with this one.

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