Comments about ‘Brad Rock: Whether it's Utah's Larry Krystkowiak or BYU's Bronco Mendenhall, thinking big is OK’

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Published: Saturday, March 1 2014 5:20 p.m. MST

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umanami
Draper, UT

Rock,

Please do not ever compare Coach K with Roscoe again. There are no similarities.

Thank you.

PAC 12 loves U
Sandy, Utah

@ JohnInSLC

"Really? Were there red slogan "Quest for Pac-12" t-shirts for sale before the season, and I missed them?"

Utah doesn't need t-shirt slogans to quest for anything. They just go out and do it on the field/court. BYU is notorious for printing silly t-shirt slogans. Remember 2008? BYU quested for perfection, while Utah ended up being perfect.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Coach K's statementis okay, because you have no business playing any game you don't believe you can win. Otherwise you a doomed to fail. That is all he said is he believes they can win. Whether they will or not depends on the players, but a positive attitude from the Coach can go a long way.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

CougarSunDevil:

"I'd compare this schedule to Utah's 2008 football schedule."

Really? You see 3 or 4 teams on that schedule that'll finish in the Top-25?

I don't.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

It's a wide stretch to compare a coach who thinks they have a shot at playing for, and winning, a "conference" championship, from another who thinks they have a shot at playing for, and winning, a "national" championship. And especially considering...

(1) Utah WILL be playing in a tournament to consider the "conference" championship. Those dates down there in Las Vegas had already been set.

(2) Football does NOT have the same sort of "tournament" style where you win or go home like Basketball. In Basketball, if you win your conference, you're in. If you don't, you have to hope for an at-large bid. But in Football, if you win your conference, that doesn't mean you're in. And it isn't as if the cougars have a shot at winning their conference in football, since no conference wanted them. Plus, their weak SOS pretty much guarantees if they go 12-0, they'll still play in some 3rd-tier bowl game. They won't finish in the Top-4. The cougars have already been eliminated for NC contention, and the season hadn't even started yet.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"Utah doesn't need t-shirt slogans to quest for anything."

Pac12:

Yeah, I know. That's the point I was trying to make--sorry if it was a little too subtle.

Protecting This House
Salt Lake City, UT

Coach K has elevated the level of play at the HC back to former highs. Brother Mendenhall has done...? for LES? Ensured a home schedule which features Utah State as your most formidable opponent at home? Yikes.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

You see 3 or 4 teams on that schedule that'll finish in the Top-25?

Texas, UCF, and Houston. All did very well in their bowl games and could likely be preseason top 25.

Of course navel vet won't admit that, nor any other ute fan. You wouldn't admit in a million years that 2008 happened because you were in the mountain west, and had you been in the PAC, it would never have happened.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

CougarSunDevil:

UCF? Houston? The Knights just lost their QB, and the Cougars just got hammered in their bowl game. And that's not to mention the fact that they finished 8-5 despite playing a weak AAC schedule.

Nope. You don't have 3-4 Top-25 teams on that schedule, and neither have you a couple of Top-10 either. There is absolutely no "legitimate" comparison between your weak SOS 2014 schedule, and Utah's 2008 schedule, that CBSSports rated one spot ahead of Alabama's. So don't talk to me about what I "wouldn't admit in a million years" after that made up clap-trap about comparing our two schedules. Very dubious indeed.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

Naval Vet,

"Nope. You don't have 3-4 Top-25 teams on that schedule"

Thanks for proving my point. I love Utah fans because you like to skirt the real topic. Using "CBSSports rating as one spot ahead of Alabama's" justifying the 2008 schedule with rating services yet not acknowledging the same or similar rating services that rank BYU basketball ahead of Utah basketball. Of course, your going to find whatever criteria you can to prove your condition is better, throwing out all consistency.

But if you really are a Naval Vet, thanks for your service.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

CougarSunDevil:

"...yet not acknowledging the same or similar rating services that rank BYU basketball ahead of Utah basketball."

Why would I acknowledge that? Our Basketball schedules have nothing to do with your frantic and emotionally inspired fantasy your 2014 schedule coming anywhere NEAR Utah's vastly more challenging 2008 slate, which IS what we were talking about. That's just a red herring that you deployed in order to avoid admitting that you were wrong. Red herrings don't work on me.

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

@ CougarSunDevil

"Of course navel vet won't admit that, nor any other ute fan. You wouldn't admit in a million years that 2008 happened because you were in the mountain west, and had you been in the PAC, it would never have happened"

Same can be said about BYU. Cougar fans will never admit in a million years that 1984 happened because they were in the WAC. If BYU played in the PAC-12 or Big 12 or any other power conference, 1984 would never have happened.

ekute
Layton, UT

byu basketball wouldn't be sniffing the bubble if they were in the PAC 12 today.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

Bleed Crimson

"Same can be said about BYU. Cougar fans will never admit in a million years that 1984 happened because they were in the WAC. If BYU played in the PAC-12 or Big 12 or any other power conference, 1984 would never have happened."

I guess you never asked me.

Naval Vet

"That's just a red herring that you deployed in order to avoid admitting that you were wrong."

Sorry, not a red herring. The topic I was discussing was whether a team is really as good as the fans say they are or as the ratings say they are. Sorry you got confused.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

CougarSunDevil:

"Sorry, not a red herring. The topic I was discussing was whether a team is really as good as the fans say they are..."

How is, "I'd compare this schedule to Utah's 2008 football schedule," anything at all related to how Utah fans feel about how good their team is? That quote isn't about whether a team is as good as their fans say. That's a quote about how the cougars' future schedule ranks even-Steven to Utah's 2008 season where the Utes faced -- and beat 4 teams who finished the season ranked in the Top-25 (and 2 of whom finished in the Top-10). You're now just trying to change the argument in order to avoid admitting you were wrong, but you can't. It's all right there in black and white, and with your name all over it.

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