Seems there are lots of "experts" commenting on this one. For my part,
I'll take the word of one of those currently in the league:"It's just that the team that he was on, he never really got a chance
to do much because they've got the characters on that team where they
don't seem too serious, you know what I'm saying? Playing on strict,
good teams kind of brings the best out of a player."I still
doubt Chicago will get by Miami or Indiana to the finals. But it will be
interesting to see what Fredette will be able to do with a team (and presumably,
coach) who really wants him.
Chris B: In order to answer your question, you need to define "great
program". Do Evergreen State, UC Davis, Grand Canyon University, Lamar or
Savannah count as great programs? Am I to assume so, since Utah scheduled them
all. If they don't count, what about Princeton University? You also should
define "regular" as in "regular starter".
Chicago for now...Well maybe. As I write, it's not official yet. I'd
still like for him to end up on the Trailblazers team. He has what they use the
most...scoring! I can't seem to get any traction with any of you Utahns on
this, but he'd be ahead of two or three guys on Portland's bench,
maybe even 4 or 5 guys. Oh well, if not this year, maybe next! Hope springs
12th man of the year! good luck in Chicago.
Glad to see Fredette get out of one of the NBA's ghettos and onto a real
team. As usual, U fans insist they've left BYU behind, but the fact that
they can't leave it ~alone~ makes clear that they haven't yet overcome
their inferiority complex. (Maybe if they start really ~competing~ in the
@kimmypWhat makes you so sure he wont be able to perform better?It's easy to speculate from your keyboard. How many college or NBA games
have you played in??? Probably zero, just like me. It's easy for you to
hate something you can't do. Why not just be glad for Jimmer? Wait, that is
asking too much of the BYU haters. At least I can appreciate a good/great player
no matter what school colors he wears. Jimmer was great in college (I think the
awards he won speak for themselves.) and I think he is good in the NBA. Yes
there are many better players but that doesn't stop me from liking him.
It's funny how some people seem to hate what they can never have. I just
enjoy watching Jimmer throw up 3's. I can make a few in the local church
building and maybe 1 or 2 in a church ball game, but they will never look as
pretty or as easy as the way Jimmer makes it look. Just stop hating and enjoy
Meanwhile mighty Utah is dominating the bottom third of the PAC.
@ Chris:How long has it been since a BYU article has come out that
you haven't tried to impart your own level of juvenile negativity into it.
When you actually add a meaningful dialog to the discussion, I'll be happy
to give you some credit. I've been waiting to do so for a very long
time.Jimmer is a stud. A class act all the way. It will now become
more interesting to follow the ascension of his NBA career.What's really funny is that had Jimmer played at Utah (heaven forbid), no
one could get you to stop singing his phrases.
So still no examples of any great program in the nation that hasn't put a
regular starter in the NBA in 30 years?LOL!
Da' Bulls were talking Turkey with the Jimmer. Stay tuned to Jimmervision
for the next 10 years, at least.
Thank you, KimmyP. That's what I meant to say.I am a BYU
graduate and fan. I think Coach Dave Rose is brilliant. He exploited
Jimmer's one-dimensional (Harlem Globtrotters-like) skill and made it
work.But that won't work at the next level, and many of us knew
that from day one of Jimmer's career. That doesn't make us
"haters". That simply means we have a different opinion of Jimmer's
professional prospects than do the adoring, blindly sycophant-ish
"lovers" of Jimmer.
Could everyone quit comparing him to Adam Morrison, please? The only two things
they have in common are skin color and both were drafted by crummy franchises.
Morrison was 6-8; played 30 minutes a game as a rookie; averaged 12 points, 3
rebounds, and two assists. Then blew out a knee and never recovered.
Fredette is going to do fine in Chicago. They have a good coach and a winning
culture. Based on the numbers Fredette will be nothing but a positive for the
Bulls. The bulls need stronger outside shooting and Jimmer brings that with him
in spades. Go Bulls!
He didn't live up to his billing coming out of college. Because he's
such a great guy and wonderful role model, the continued support of his
followers is justified...and Chris's blunt criticism seems harsh. The Bulls
are wise to acquire him as a minimal cap space situational player. I wish him
UteNationAlum "I actually thought the Jazz would consider picking him up.
Jimmer would single handily put people in seats at the ESA."Where do you get the impression that the Jazz need help getting people in
seats?Let's look at the last 3 home games, keeping in mind that
capacity is 19,911 + suites.MIN - 19,323BOS - 17,130PHX -
19,939How much would you pay Jimmer to fill up those last hundred
Chris B has a piano with only one key: The I hate all things BYU key.A song with a single note a song does not make.Nobody can take
anything away from Jimmer's college career.Jimmer was the Kings IQ
test. They failed, but Jimmer still made $2.4 million this last year. (How
much did you make Chris?)If the Bulls sign Jimmer, it will be
because they want him and plan to use his skill set.Matt Carlino went from
being a starter to a roll player. His minutes have not changed much. His
scoring has spiked and he is now more important to the teem that he was as a
starter. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same happen with Jimmer.
Chris BLook no further than your "prestigious" back yard for your
answer. Oregon's best player in the last 30 yrs was either Luke Ridnour or
Aaron Brooks, neither of which could hold a starting job in the NBA, either
losing it when it was handed to them or never making it in the first place. Both
those players have been busts from what their college talent was, and that was
just off the top of my head....I'm sure there are more examples.
The jury is still out on Jimmer! Any basketball fan who has the slightest amount
of sports acumen, knows the following (they don't have to be a Jimmer or
BYU fan): He was drafted by a franchise who is the equivalent of a dumpster
fire, and is highly dysfunctional. Because of this, he was never given the
chance to succeed as an NBA player. Stats don't lie. He has the ability to
fill a valuable role in the league. He can flat out shoot! If this weren't
the case, he wouldn't be courted by several teams.The Jimmer
was a great college athlete, and in the day, was a national phenomena. Those
days are long gone, and it's time for him to carve out his place in the
NBA. In my opinion, he'll end up being a good rotational player, and prove
to be more like a JJ Redick rather than an Adam Morrison.
It must be a conspiracy against Jimmer.Give me a break, he was the
worst players on one of the worst teams in the NBA. They tried trading him, but
had no takers. Chicago is going to sign him for the minimum to be a situational
player.After the year Jimmer fans will still claim he didn't
get a chance. Maybe Jimmer just isn't cut out for the NBA, just admit it.
If you can't make it on the worst team, what makes you think you'll
make it on a better team.If Boozer and Jimmer are on the court at
the same time, it could be the worst defensive combination in NBA history.
Good job Jimmer!! Chicago is a much better team and I hope it works out for
If you can get some numbers up in Chicago you can retire early and promise to
come back when you are 100%.It works for Rose.
Very excited to see Jimmer in Chicago. I hope he is given the opportunity to
prove what he can do.“Any fool can criticize, condemn and
complain and most fools do.” Benjamin Franklin
Good luck with the Bulls. The Kings are dysfunctional from the top down. Chicago
has an outstanding coach and a winning attitude, things they lack in Sacramento.
Why is Jimmers Defense always in question? he has NEVER been known for defense.
He has ALWAYS been a guy who SCORES! That is exactly why the Bulls are picking
him up, they need a strong 3-ball presence. and Jimmer is exactly that, and he
will come cheaper since he bought out of the Kings crappy organization. It is a
Win Win for both the Bulls and Jimmer.
Good for him! It will be interesting to see the terms of the contract. It
might be just to finish this year out, kind of like a trial basis. I am not
sure how many minutes he will get, but this a very good second chance in the NBA
for him. Best of luck!
Yes, Jimmy is now destined for stardom once he becomes a Bull. By merely
changing uniforms, he will grow another 4 inches, he will become much faster in
transition and the defensive deficiency displayed throughout his career will
magically disappear.If the Jimmer could play, he would still be a
King. They drafted him with a lottery pick and are letting him go without
getting anything in return. That happens all the time with solid NBA players who
are able to help win games. The Kings are at the bottom rung of the NBA ladder
and he couldn't get on the floor with them due to his one dimensional
ability, merely switching teams will not diminish this fact.
Jimmer was overrated.Still is.I predict his bench
warming in the NBA will be brief, followed by a quiet exit from the sport.
@Chris BMichael Doleac - Played for Utah during their glory years
and led them to the NCAA championship game. Drafted 12th overall by the Orlando
magic. Didn't start a single game. Averaged 15.9 mpg compared to
Fredette's 18.5 mpg.Why do you care? I loved watching Doleac
play for the Utes and regardless of how his NBA career panned out, he had an
amazing college career and I enjoyed watching him play.
@ChrisB Jimmer started seven games for the Kings who I believe are in the NBA,
though sometimes I wonder. Some would argue that Danny Ainge was the best BYU
player in the last thirty years and he started multiple times for the Celtics
and Suns. Is Jimmer's domination of Utah always going to be an issue with
ChrisB I have answer to your question, I am Utah fan and I have never ever ever
seen any BYU fan to claim BYU to be basketball powerhouse. No, BYU doesn't
have starter in NBA. They play in WCC. We play in PAC 12 conference that sends
most NBA draft pick consistently every. What have we power house Utah
contributed to it. How many NBA player have we send in NBA. Can you name a
basketball power house that has only had one draft pick in last 10 year?
Hope he attends Chicago First if he signs. We need Priesthood.
Haters be gone.Let him play! Just let him play....
Yay for Jimmer! We are excited to watch you play on a new team.
@ Chris,I didn't have a vote but Fredette still won the
Naismith Award, Adolph Rupp Trophy, Oscar Robertson Trophy and the Wooden Award.
Pretty much slam dunks his place in history as an awesome basketball player.As it applies to the pro game, Name the best NBA player who went to
Utah. I will match you with the Best NBA player who went to BYU and we will see
how they compare.
CB, Let me respond to your comment in this way: It is easy to select a player
from any college and find one that did not have a stellar NBA career for many
reasons including major differences between the college and professional game.
Adam Morrison of Gonzage comes to mind. Without adhering to your arbitrary 30
year cut off, let me give you two examples from the University of Utah: Bill
McGill and Jerry Chambers. Both of these players were great college players and
arguably the best in Utah history. Neither lived up to their potential in the
NBA. This fact should not take away from their college careers. Whether
Fredette ever "starts" in the NBA does nothing to diminish his amazing
college career. Give it a rest.
Jimmer HAS started in the NBA and likely will start again. Will he be an
All-Star? It's always possible, but I doubt Jimmer would consider himself a
failure if he doesn't, unlike his detractors here and elsewhere. Jimmer iIS
a success story and anyone who can't see that is doomed to live in their
own dismal and dreary world, drinking half-empty bitter cups of envy and
Finally. Sacramento is one of the jokes of the NBA. Glad he has a chance to
play with some really good players. Tom, he was going to be in
Turkey all this time....for preseason training camp. The critics and BYU lovers
had it right all along.
I wonder how often power house basketball team don't go March madness for 5
years in a row? Chris how many NBA starter has utah produced since joining Pac?
Can anyone answer? Anyone?
Good for him!I actually thought the Jazz would consider picking him
up and before my fellow utes freak out, this is why...Jimmer would
single handily put people in seats at the ESA. Also, his jersey would have
probably been the most worn in the arena. Would have been a very savvy business
decision. Additionally, I think he could have been a good energy,
get the crowd going, come in a hit some long range threes type guy.
Utah fans-2011- jimmer will never get drafted. 2011-jimmer will
never get a single minute. 2014-jimmer is going to Europe 2014- byu
has no one in 30 years that can start 2015-( lets say jimmer magically
becomes starter) , they will say byu doesn't have NBA all-star 2016-
miraculously jimmer discovers a magic potion drinks it and becomes all star,
they will still come up with a reason to hate him. Remember fans of
utah byu is not here to please you, just give up abreast. Thanks, Frustrated utah fan
Ok Chris byu doesn't have any starter right now. So I am
guessing utah has hundreds of starter in NBA? Many many mvps in NBA, right? Tell me how many all stars are coming out of our beloved utah this year?
Good grief, Chris! Isn't there a 2nd verse to that same old song
you've been singing for years?
Not sure if this is a good fit for him but at least he's getting a 2nd
chance.Bulls eye Jimmer Fredette for 13th playerChicago
Tribune"In limited action, he's shooting a career-high 49.3
percent from 3-point range. Fredette is not considered a strong defender or
shot-creator, but the Bulls' defense is strong enough to absorb some
players who are poor at that end. And Fredette could play off the ball as a
spot-minute, spot-up shooter."
I'll bet Jimmer went around the other NBA teams and found Chicago to have
the most padded benches! Maybe he even met the water boys and tested the
Gatoraides...Chicago had the best combo!!Trading teams
doesn't fix bad defense..
@Chris BJimmer was the best player in the NCAA that year. Transitioning
from the NCAA to professional sports is not always a given. How many Heisman
winners never make it in Football? How many to picks in the NBA and NFL are a
complete bust? How then do you associate this with a certain program such as
SCCougar,I'm still waiting on a reply to my question.Got anything?
This is a fantastic situation for Jimmer to be in and hopefully it works out
@chris.I'll answer your question once you name me one other fan
that gets on his rival schools news articles and talks smack, even though his
team has gone to the post season 1 time in the past 9 years
Ya Chris you have made that comment before I still chuckle at your comments
though you keep the comments lively
Common Chris, Haven't I seen that post before?
All the experts on the hill said he would be going to Turkey. Good luck with
Chicago Jimmer!! Better days are ahead now.
I'm surprised that with such a great program like byu, their best player of
the last 30 years isn't even good enough to start anywhere in the NBA.Can anyone else think of a single great program whose best player of the
last 30 years couldn't even start in the NBA?I'm sincerely
curious if anyone can think of any such teams?Any?
Love that he is going to Da Bulls! I also loved Taj Gibson's comments.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Is Chicago in Turkey? LOLCongrats to Jimmer for escaping from
Sacramento. Good luck with your new team!