…. and then like clockwork, after I say something about the NBA and threes
not being key to many teams, I watch the Warriors/Nicks game tonight and the
Warriors were raining threes like there was no tomorrow. Seems to work that
way a lot, I say something, and life turns on ya and smacks you back down
again.… so I revise, normally NBA teams don't rely on the
three to win, unless it is the last night of February, and the Warriors are
trying to secure a playoff stop, then yes….. threes are extremely
important. The thing is, neither team was having a hard time hitting threes.
Seems hitting a 3 pointer tonight is not a unique skill.So Jimmer
may find a home in the NBA, or he could head to Europe for a while….. or
he could move on to coaching…. or what ever he likes. He's had a
good career all things considered.
+1 to ed there. And yes, I am relatively well versed in oronyms of the English
language. I do have several college degrees after all......Well, not that that
means anything but.....yes, I am not as dum as I may apeer. It is all enact.
to: Bleed Cougar BlueCrisco's post was humor. Get it?
@ Crisco B - Salt Lake City, UT "Okay. Understand that Jimmer will for all
intensive purposes never about too much in the NBA."OK, I
can't let this one pass....It is not "intensive
purposes", it is "intents and purposes".You're
I bet Fredette plays for at least another 4-5 years in the NBA, making a decent
career of professional basketball and making a very large sum of money in the
process.Chris B. can mark THAT down!
Jimmer can't play "D." Jimmer's too slow. Jimmer isn't a
playmaker. The echo chamber has hypnotized whole bunches of you into repeating
the same old stuff over and over and over and over and over.The
"D" thing - Do you know who has always known the guy would struggle on
D? Only EVERYONE. The question is, can his value as a scorer outweigh his
defensive deficiencies? There have been plenty of NBA players of whom you could
ask the same question, very few of them with Jimmer's stroke.The "slow and unathletic" (read: "white") thing - Well, his
measurables before his rookie year didn't come out too badly. Yeah, he
doesn't play above the rim, but no-one's asking him to dunk on
centers. Again, he's got more inherent athleticism than many long-time
players.The "playmaker" thing - Why do some of you think
that having legit 30-foot range isn't an asset teams could use? Why does
every discussion seem to begin with what he CAN'T do rather than what he
CAN? No-one said the guy is the next Stockton, but couldn't he at least be
@ Man in Charge:You need to get real. As you insinuated, there are
no objective comparisons between Jimmer and Jabari. However, Jimmer is a lot
more obtainable than Jabari... and to almost any NBA team right now. Only one
team will end up with a shot at Jabari. He won't be on the open market for
a long time... if ever.On the other hand, Jimmer is currently
available to a number of teams. And there is no question he has NBA-level
basketball skills that most teams could put to good use. Used in the right way
and on the right team, Jimmer would provide a good benefit to cost ratio.
I agree with "Jazz Fan in Potsdam".Jimmer is very popular in
Utah. He would always pack the house whenever he played here... whether those
buying tickets were for or against him. Team owners don't care about the
motive, as long as they can see tickets. The NBA is a business. When
a team is either up or down by just a few scores toward the end of any game,
it's a big asset to have someone who can hit almost half their 3-point
attempts to make a run, or who can shoot 90% from the foul-line when other teams
need to start fouling to get the ball back. The Jazz haven't
had that type of specialized player ever since they lost Korver. There is
definitely a need for such a player on most NBA teams... assuming that
team's coach is smart enough to know how and when to use that specialty.
Bottom line: The Jazz would sell more tickets and would acquire a
specialized skill they are currently lacking if they are smart enough to aquire
Jimmer. And they probably wouldn't have to pay through the nose to do so.
Jazz fan in Potsdam. Jabari Parker will also sell Tickets and
Jerseys. The Jazz want to improve as a team defensively and Jimmer doesn't
fit that mold. I still can't believe people are talking about Jimmer when
Jabari Parker is around.
Interesting observations...Not all Utes are Jimmer haters. But
almost all Jimmer haters are Utes.If Jimmer had played for the UofU, I
could all but guarantee his current detractors would be some of his greatest
supporters. It's sad, but interesting, how over-the-top college sports fans
sometimes lose almost all objectivity. @ Two For Flinching:You say that Jimmer won't make it in the NBA. Newflash!... He already
has! He was a first round pick who has already been paid double-digit millions
of dollars. The average NBA career is 4.8 years. Jimmer is already
two-thirds of the way there and will undoubtedly surpass that number. Jimmer is currently in he upper tier of 3-point percentage NBA shooters.
It's doubtful anyone on the Jazz can shoot nearly 50% from 3-point
range.As a guard, Jimmer has a very respectable assist to turnover
ratio.As a shooter, Jimmer has a great points-per-minute played number...
one of the best on the King's roster and in the upper half of the NBA.There are spots in the NBA for sharpshooters. The Jazz paid Korver to do
Why wouldn't the Jazz pick him up for the rest of the year? Give him a
chance and see what he can do. He's not going to affect your wins and
losses that much (if at all) and it will give the fans something to get excited
about, sell a few jerseys, etc. I just don't see the downside.
From a utah fan, Good luck Jimmer, you have already achieved more than most
people can dream of. Good luck on your future endeavors. Now I am off to
prepare for speech when we wreck the pac 12 basketball championship and win big
dance this year.Go utes!
@Two-for-flinchingRose is overrated? He was MVP. M-V-P.
@Y-ask-huh?We'd ALL be lucky to play in Europe.
It is comical how everyone has an opinion on where Jimmer will end up. Many are
saying that he will be lucky to be in Europe, lucky to make an NBA squad,
etc.The fact is, this guy made it. I don't care if it is for
only three years. He did it and accomplished his dream of playing in the NBA.
And from the article, it seems like he may have another few more years playing
out his dream. So I say good for Jimmer.Ultimately, in every
interview I have seen this kid, he seems like a pretty good upstanding guy. So
in the NBA, in Europe, or if he decides to make a new life for himself after
making millions. Good luck to Jimmer wherever he ends up. I hope it is in the
NBA so he can fulfill more of his dream.
I hate to say I told you so, but I did: Jimmer was way overrated and was a
college fluke. He will be lucky to be playing in Europe three years from now.
Jimmer never did fit in with the Kings. Too bad for them. Jimmer is too much a
gentleman to say what many of us think should be said: he wasn't given a
fair chance from the get-go. Management, coaches--it doesn't matter now.
Jimmer is still my idol and may never fit in with the NBA environment, much to
his credit! I wish you all the best, Jimmer. You are the finest role-model
anyone could have--especially among young aspiring athletes.
Beating my drum again!!! Portland is the answer! They use guys like Jimmer to
beat their competition.They have guys that are hurt. They have guys that
can't compete anymore. They like young guys, young guns!Oh
please, I hope beyond hope that the Blazers get into the mix and pick him up.
Hand in glove, he'd fit so well!!!Go Jimmer! Go Blazers!
His game against the Knicks this month showed what he can do with a little
playing time.Seemed pretty good to me.
@ Chris BSo you are calling BYU a basketball "POWERHOUSE"
wow High praise. Every hear of someone named J.J. Redick? Or how
about Adam Morrison selected THIRD in the NBA draft? Not everyone who is
amazing in college "starts" in the NBA.However, they all
have more money then you can dream of.So why all the hate....or is
it just old fashioned JEALOUSY???
RicoVladhagen did not compare Jimmer to Tony Parker, read again.Jimmer and Boozer are two different players will different mindsets. We
all know Boozer too well from his Jazz days. He does what he wants to do, when
he wants to do it. Although a great talent, not fun to coach. Jimmer
on the other hand is very teachable. Jonathan Santiago tweeted that Kings brass
will give a "glowing recommendation" to whoever courts Fredette. They
said they would do that because of the player he has been for them. I don't
think Boozer has ever received that...I don't see Jimmer as a
PG and neither do the Bulls, they have their MVP at that position. He can come
in as a number 2 SG and the kid can still score. We forget the talent that he
does have, he just hasn't had the minutes or the green light to let it go.
I think the Knick game was a nice reminder (although the Knicks are horrible
defenders). But besides Miami and Chicago, who plays defense these days....
You can pile on Jimmer all you want, but he is leading the league is 3 point
percentage (as least as of 10 days ago) while only averaging a hair over 11
minutes a game. I think it says something if Thibs and Pop are interested in the
kid (even if mildly). It sounds like as of this morning the Bulls are the #1
team to land Jimmer. The Bulls are known for defense and I think Thibs will get
the most out of Jimmer. The Bulls have a great organization, coach
and solid group of no-nonsense, mature players. he may not be a starter over
there, but he will be great off the bench lighting it up. Good luck Jimmer, I
think I just became a Bulls fan!
@ VladhagenParker and Westbrook average 6 and 7 apt, respectively.
Rose is good, but overrated IMO. However, I never said a PG can't be a
valuable scoring asset. My point was simply that a PG, especially one who
receives significant minutes, needs to be able to do more than just score. From
what I've seen, Jimmer can score, but doesn't really do much else.As for Andre Miller, I know he's not elite, but he is still one of
the better point guards to play the game. And as a player he is WAY out of
Bryon Russell's league. Miller is 9th all-time in assists, and is in the
top 40 for career steals. He is only 28 steals away from passing Reggie Miler
and Julius Erving in that category. Plus Miller has scored over 15,500 points.
Russell ended his career with 6,600, at a way more "scorer friendly"
"Reality" is something that crazed fans struggle to notice and
recognize. A successful professional basketball player is able to do more than
one thing well. In fact, they usually do multiple things very well. The scouting
report for Jimmer is he can only do one thing, shoot. And even then, against pro
athletic competition, he is not able to get free quick enough to get his shot
off due to being slow. Jimmer will most likely never play in the NBA again, if
the Kings don't want him, I can't see why anybody else is going to go
after him. If he wants to continue to play ball, he will have to
join a foreign team. That is "reality"
Re: VladhagenTony Parker is quick and he is tough and scores a lot
in the paint. You cannot compare this future hall-of-famer to Jimmer ( a guy
that no team was willing to trade for). It looks like the Bulls
will sign Jimmer, but he will be making close to the minimum. Bulls think they
can teach him defense is funny, they didn't teach Boozer defense. Jimmer
is a situational player at best. If you are down 3 at the end of the game maybe
put him in, but he is a liability to play consistent minutes.Glad
the Jazz didn't go after him. Alec Burks is much better (and he was
drafted after Jimmer).
2 for Flinching....Great point guards like Tony Parker, Derrick
Rose, Russell Westbrook......wait they score before passing. And are pretty
successful doing so. Tony Parker has had only two seasons above 7 assists a game
(played 12 years). And I severely doubt that Andre Miller will be
remembered as one of the all time great PGs. He is okay. He played a decade or
so in the NBA. But he is only middle of the road in terms of "Great." A
sort of Bryon Russell type of player. Had an NBA career and started. But the HOF
does not have him on speed dial.
A great PG is a "ball handler", not the main scoring threat. Look at
John Stockton, Jason Kidd, Rajon Rondo, even Andre Miller. All of them are
12-13 points, 7-10 assist per-game type players. The reason Jimmer has not, and
will not, pan out in the NBA is because he is a score first, pass second type of
player. That just doesn't work for a point guard.
It's about time! Dude needs to play for a different team. The Kings
organization is terribly run.
@nvfanCedar City, UTSan Antonio, Chicago, Boston and Chicago would
be decent choices. ---------According to the article
Chicago wants him as the "13th man" so how is that good for him? He was
the 12th man at Sacramento.What happened to New York, his home
state? But then again with J.R. Smith and Anthony adding the Jimmer would mean
not enough shots for the rest of 9 players.He'll land
somewhere, lets see if can take advantage of the 2nd chance..
I sincerely hope Jimmer finds a team and coach that utilize his great talent.
This should be his #1 priority in choosing a team... not just money. Jimmer is a
great player a myopic duo of Sacramento coaches couldn't see...
It seems to me that a player that shoots 49% from outside the arc could help a
team at times when an offensive thrust is needed to put the hammer down or stint
a comeback. Such a player should also be able to open up the defense of another
squad as players have to honor his outside shot. A lot of opportunities should
open up in the otherwise congested inside. It seems the Lakers, the Heat, and
the Bulls have all showcased veteran players who simply came in and made shots
at critical times in games. One can make an enviable living in the NBA by being
a dead eye from distance.
Jimmer! The Lakers are waiting for you! Utah doesn't want you, but we do.
Hmmm...whether one thinks Jimmer will have any type of NBA or professional bball
career, we can speculate all we want because our opinions won't matter. In fact, could you or I make an educated guess as to Jimmer becoming the
NCAA Basketball Player of the Year (2010-11)? Could we have foreseen Jimmer not
meshing well and/or getting little (or no) playing time with the Kings?Similarly, we really don't know how his career will pan out. I hope we
all wish him well whether you are a Ute, Cougar, or otherwise type of fan.
He's the "consummate teammate and professional" as his teammates
and coaches have said.Whatever happens to him, good luck Jimmer! :)
I think some of these comments show some know nothing about basketball. Even
here at Duke we have had guys who were the cream of the crop in college ball,
but whose game didn't translate well into the pros. I think Jimmer falls
into that camp. Its not that he doesn't have skill... it just doesn't
transfer into the very upbeat to the hoop style found in the pros. How many
pro teams do you see no days relying on the 3 to win games? I will give you a
hint.... next to none.So while I hope he does well... it is time to
realize that he isn't going to be the great white hope from Utah. At least
he got to play at the highest level.... 99 percent of college players
can't even say that.
Good for Jimmer. I hope that he can end up contributing on a good team, but I
must admit that even as a Jimmer lover, I am not sure if that will ever happen.
Chris B, the one question I have for you is which of the following
is greater: your hatred for BYU or your love for the Utes? I can answer the
opposite question easily. My love for BYU is far greater than my mild distaste
for the Utes. How is it to have a hatred for a team so strong that is as large
or larger than how much you like the team you cheer for?
from all the options listed above I think Pops and the Spurs are by far the
USAlover, So you were on a team with Jimmer? Cool, when?
I don't think he'll improve his situation by going to the Cavs. Then
again, any of his suitors could be a crap-shoot.
Man in Charge-Ending a troll post with "lol" pretty well
dates someone as over the hill or never been on the hill.
All these haters of a kid who is the classiest, friendliest and most humble guy
you can find.All the hating on the internet is old, old, old.Best of luck to Jimmer who is shooting 49% from the 3. If somebody
believes enough in him, they'll be getting a steal for a low price and a
Jimmer has been set free from the NBA basement. Now he can sign with a team
that knows you have to score more than the other team to win. Funny to see so
much interst in Jimmer from the Ute trolls. They must be getting tired of
admiring their skiing trophies.
I bet the idaho stampede would take him. That will be the best offer im
thinking. Maybe he can go back to BYU. Lol
Okay. Understand that Jimmer will for all intensive purposes never about too
much in the NBA. He is vary slow and has no ability to play defense. And his
haircut is not that of a thug.Take four example on the other hand
the Utes. None of there players play in Europe. They all play in NBA. Or are at
least really good at NBA game on Xbox. Pleas stop writing about this
young man. He is to boring too here about. He only make some few millions and
does not live in mothers basement. Please wrote more about living in basement of
my parents since I need to reed articles about normal people like me.
I love Jimmer! Can't get enough of those highlights on youtube! JIMMER FOR
San Antonio, Chicago, Boston and Chicago would be decent choices. Stay away from
train wreck teams that are similar to the one you are now leaving. That includes
New York and Cleveland. Jimmer has already been there and done that and should
learn from that experience. I hope that he gets with one of the better coaches
like Pop with the Spurs.
I hope Jimmer finds a new team. Bulls/Cavs/etc., pick up Jimmer and I will be a
fan of your team. Heck, if Jimmer becomes a starter (I know, a long shot) I
will even buy a jersey. Good luck Jimmer.
My my Chris b still hurt from 47. Holding grudge is not good for your health. As
a fellow Utah fan I wouldn't want you to see unwell.
U-tah,Sure seems like there is interest from not just one but at least
three NBA teams that think Jimmer would fit on their teams and contribute!!!
Imagine that!!! Hope Jimmer gets a better chance to help a team and has as long
a career as he wants!!!Go Jimmer!!! Go Cougs!!! Rise Up!!!
To slow, no defense, to small - and can't spell 'too'. I guess we
all have our weaknesses. Jimmer is at least a multi-millionaire in the midst of
If we put on our realistic hats here we would realize the Kings did use Fredette
the way they needed to. Fredette will play in the NBA as a twin brother to
Shawn Bradley. Very much overrated as a NBA player but will find a 11th - 12th
role player for a good career. To slow, no defense, to small = no much
I can't wait to see Jimmer leave the Kings! Now I just hope he ends up on a
good team with a coach who knows how to use him properly. Here's a hint:
"Jimmer for threeee!"