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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 25 2014 8:35 p.m. MST

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Idaho Falls, ID

Parading the HC is prideful, in my opinion, a sin in it's own right. That is why I applaud this change in policy.

Omaha, NE

Dutchman, find me a DIV I school like BYU in the USA that has an honor code with the same prohibitions?

It cheapens the Honor Code in my opinion by using a play of words and becoming more like the world.


Omaha, NE

Idablu, you ask why? I ask why not? Is not the honor code an obligation that each student is required to follow in order to attend BYU? As for explaining what the Honor Code violation was, the public has no right to know and quite frankly no one needs to know that there was an honor code violation to begin with, but, unfortunately, that is not the life of an athlete. To claim it was in violation of team rules seems to be covering up what it really was; an honor code violation. I would assume that with this change BYU may be considering changing their honor code to Honor Code/Team Rules and for the general student body; School Rules. Again, this is my opinion, right or wrong it is what it is.


Chris B. 4 Prez!
Salt Lake City, UT

“I’d like to continue (scheduling) with the Pac-12 because that’s where our biggest fan base is,” Holmoe said. “Travel is better. But we’d be remiss if we didn’t take the opportunities to play across the country. I’d always start in the Pac-12, and go from there.”

PAC-12 - where byu's biggest fan base is. I hope they schedule as many PAC-12 games as possible, so as to squash the "we've beaten more PAC-12 schools than you have" spin, after experiencing first-hand what playing premium competition is really like.

If you ask me, Holmoe wants to schedule as many PAC-12 games, because if you can't beat 'em, try and join them in your own minds!

Murray, UT


Many schools have team rules that mirror the honor code. Those rules are for the team and not the general student population. They just don't parade them in public. Also, many secular schools have a Code of Conduct that the general student population must abide by in order to stay enrolled. These rules go well beyond just living within the civil law.

let's roll

A couple of commenters seem to interpret Holmoe's statement to indicate there will be a different approach to handling discipline for Honor Code violations. I don't see that in his statement at all. No indication that the coach or anyone else will be more involved in the process or have any input in the result or that there is any other change in the methodology.

Instead, the only change is with respect to what public statement will (or won't) be made.

BTW, if I were a coach, I wouldn't use the term "violation of team rules" regardless of whether the infraction was a violation of team rules or an Honor Code violation. I would say only that the athlete "is currently ineligible to participate."

Gojo Mojo
Salt Lake City, UT


There You Go Again
Saint George, UT


CO Ute

Regarding the article - I love to take an occasional shot at Holmoe but in this case completely agree with his decision. Simply state the player violated a rule and nothing else.

Just like every other U or Y article, some fans from the other school will make valid comments and others will take cheap shots. In reply some posters will take more cheap shots and claim they are justified because the other side 'started it'. I thoroughly enjoy the good natured banter but most of the posts go far beyond that.

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

Re:Reno Cougs Fan 68

I haven't heard anything of this, but say somehow you are right and Michigan does buy out Utah, and does not play at RES in 2015.

In 2015 Utah still would have home games against: Arizona State, UCLA, Oregon State, and Washington.

You must be a little bitter that BYU went to South Bend 2 years in a row and Notre Dame hasn't scheduled a return trip to Provo.
(Michigan has a date with Utah at RES, (they may get out of it, but a date is better than what BYU has with ND coming to Provo (no scheduled date)).

Idaho Falls, ID

A violation of team rules could be: Being late for practice so many times. Being absent for team meetings with no excuse. Not attending classes. Getting poor grades. I'm sure there must be a relatively large grocery list of things that translate to the violation of team rules. And, the honor code violations are also part of the team rules. It's just that everybody thinks honor code when it could be something entirely different. And why would the university even want to make a comment on it anyways? It's really NOYB!

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