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Brad Rock: Jimmer Fredette still a situational player, says NBA source

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  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Feb. 27, 2014 7:36 a.m.

    Kanter is bad on defense this year for sure, but he wasn't last year. His footwork last year was brilliant for a big man. I think he should play a four and use that jumper for his main shot. He isn't a baseline defender, and the wings are so bad in Utah at rotating that it leaves him in no mans land. As far as Jimmer, he will find a place, Reddick was a hot shooter in collage and it took him a while to find his groove. I wouldn't mind him in Utah, throwing up five or six bombs at the end of each quarter. I shutter to think of him trying to guard a normal NBA 6' 5" two guard. I don't think he will be a starter.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Feb. 26, 2014 4:49 p.m.

    @aggie andee
    One way to build respect for yourself, your favorite team and for your community is to display respect yourself. So many classy fans from "other" schools posted positive, complimentary remarks about Jimmer much to their credit. Then you come here with your negativity when your Aggies are not doing so hot....I hope you get my point and I will not respond to your post.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 26, 2014 2:02 p.m.

    The Kings just don't like Jimmer. If Jimmer was allowed to play he would be an NBA all-star and first team NBA.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 26, 2014 1:29 p.m.

    Let's see, that 9 mile out shot he made against the Utes, it looked like he got at least 25 inches off of the floor. He can also dunk so the accusation that he can't jump is groundless.

    Phoenix would be a great team for him to go to.

    As far as defense...Let's be realistic. No one plays defense in the NBA any more.

  • mdp Bountiful, utah
    Feb. 26, 2014 11:52 a.m.

    Jimmer will be a Korver like player, who really helped the Jazz when he was here

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Feb. 26, 2014 11:45 a.m.

    One dimensional players are not even good enough for the lousy Kings

  • portlander Arlington, WA
    Feb. 26, 2014 11:37 a.m.

    With due respect to all of you die-hard fans in Utah, the answer is...Portland! It's really the only team that makes any sense for the Jimmer. If Stotts was favorable to his shooting skills, I believe that PDX would go after him. The Zers love the 3 point shot. Shoot the highest percentage of 3's of any team in the NBA. Plus they are the highest scoring team in the NBA. All situations favorable to what the Jimmer has to offer.

    Much of the PDX bench is lethargic and non-productive and he could be the sparkplug off the bench that PDX needs! And he would move into the starting lineup when he becomes more relied upon, as the team evolves.

    Yeah, Jimmer to the Zers makes sense! I want the Jimmer in PDX!

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Feb. 26, 2014 10:13 a.m.

    The Jazz have Lucas (plays when the game is already lost) and Clark ( who's he).

  • AggieAndee Holladay, UT
    Feb. 26, 2014 9:27 a.m.

    Jimmer is the biggest bust of his NBA class. Do a web search for NBA draft mistakes and Jimmer pops right up. He's good enough to play in Turkey or the D League but not in the NBA.

    In fact, maybe Jimmer should go play in that D League team or whatever it is down in Utah County. That would be a team worhy of his talent and the Provo area is the only place where he still has fans.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 26, 2014 8:18 a.m.

    Admiral Hyman Rickover said it best. "We are all doomed to ultimate failure". Jimmer is very good but he sticks out like a "seal in a snowstorm". I played lots of basketball in the Navy. Jimmer doesn't fit into the culture. He has strong religious beliefs and this bothers some people in a culture which "believes in freedom of expression". Players on the Kings are part of the "party hearty" majority in the NBA. We have a news anchor in this Midwestern town who came from Cleveland with a "rug rat" who is alleged to be part of the LeBron James entourage. In general, LeBron has a high measure of character. A current story on Craig James of the "Pony express" and Fox News would pretty much parallel what Jimmer is going through.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 26, 2014 7:44 a.m.

    I'm not anxious for the Jazz to acquire Jimmer; I'm not opposed either.
    - He's a better back-up PG than Garrett or Lucas.
    - Can't pair him with Burke very often; they're both small.
    - He'd thrive when paired with ball-handling SGs like Hayward or Burks; especially Hayward who penetrates kicks out for 3PFGs.
    - He's a weak 1-on-1 defensive player but a decent team defensive player. At BYU, because of Emery, he was free to roam into passing lanes and picked up a few steals.
    - A good coach would surround Jimmer with solid defensive players to leverage Jimmer's "roaming" style.
    - Kanter is probably a weaker defender than Jimmer. Avoic playing them together very often.

    I think there are better fits in the NBA but I don't think he would hurt the Jazz as a back-up PG. Let Burke have 30-33 minutes and Jimmer can have 15-18. The consistent minutes with a defined role would show if he is NBA quality or not. If the Jazz are interested, I say sign him for $10M over 3 years or maybe $14M over 4 years. It may end up a real bargain.

  • BlacksburgCoug Blacksburg, VA
    Feb. 26, 2014 7:04 a.m.

    I think that the telling line in this article is, "Fredette scored 24 points, making six 3-pointers two weeks ago, but as of Tuesday morning had played only four minutes since." So, you get (percentage-wise) the best shooter in the league, he gets hot and has a great game, and then you sit him on the bench. Brilliant!

    Yes, he's a step slow in the NBA. Yes, he's not a good defender. But neither was Eddie House. or Jeff Hornacek. Or Steve Kerr. Or NBA MVP Steve Nash. I could publish a telephone directory with NBA players who were not good defenders. These people make it sound like he's the worst defensive liability to ever put on an NBA uniform.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 25, 2014 10:53 p.m.

    @idablu
    So why all the bias against him? Is it all the attention he got coming out of college? His whiteness?
    His Mormonism?

    -----------

    His Mormonism? Isn't Jabri Parker Mormon? He's one of the best players in the draft this year. Nope, nothing to do with Mormonism more to do with lack of Athleticism.

    I think he'll get another chance, because he is a good shooter. The question is can he improve other parts of his game to stick around?

  • MWCandUtahFan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 10:32 p.m.

    Just an FYI, the Jazz with Jimmer and the Jazz without Jimmer, the playoff result is the same. The Jazz as a team and championship non-contender Jimmer would add some local support and plenty of excitement, the excitement we saw recently against NY. In NY he couldn't be stopped in the lane or from long-range. It seems as though NY was trying to win that game and couldn't no matter how athletic he isn't and how slow he is and how he can't create his own shot, he just kept shooting and scoring. Situational player, yes, when the situation is that you want to win a game, Jimmer is a great option. Jimmer is always capable sometimes amazing.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Feb. 25, 2014 9:25 p.m.

    Nice to see so many class guys come out from the U re: Jimmer. I can appreciate that kind of class from any opponent. Keep it up gentlemen!! We will attempt to return the favor.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Feb. 25, 2014 7:49 p.m.

    My NBA Source tells me that Sacramento coaches did not want to draft Fredette for the reasons mentioned in this article. The type of offense the King's run simply doesn't take advantage of Jimmer's strengths and only highlights his weaknesses. My Source also suggests that Fredette will almost certainly be picked up by a team once he clears waivers. My Source thinks he's going to be with a team that runs an up-tempo offense rather than a power offense. It will be interesting to see who is right - My Source or The Source.

  • Riley Mendenhall Provo, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 6:59 p.m.

    Too bad the Utah Flash aren't around.

    Jimmer would thrive there. He is Morris Almond 2.0.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    Feb. 25, 2014 6:59 p.m.

    A few Y fans may call a foul on this post but there is no hate for Jimmer on my end. He was a great college player and an incredible scorer. However he is too short, too slow, and to weak on defense to be a good NBA player. This isn't because of the hype, that he is white, or that he is Mormon. The assessment in the article, is in my opinion, very accurate. His upside could be a Steve Kerr type player but that may never happen either. Not fast enough to play point guard and not tall enough to play SG. Probably can help out the right team because he is a threat to score but only really effective in short burst with the right mix of player on the court.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 6:36 p.m.

    I am glad Jazz got Alec Burks instead.
    Best of luck to Jimmer.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 25, 2014 5:42 p.m.

    RE: Chris B.

    "The best player at byu in 30 years, and one of the top 2-3 players at byu EVER isn't good enough to even be a starter in the NBA."

    "Yes, he's the best player at byu in 30 years. But that doesn't mean much."

    I guess it's hard to "move on" when your rival's best player in 30 years torches your team for 47 points, never loses to your team, and you're stuck as the worst team in your new conference. And to amend your statement for better accuracy: Jimmer was also the best college player IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY while he was destroying your team. Sour grapes? Yep, that would lead to obsessive posting.

  • MountainMan25 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 5:22 p.m.

    As a Ute fan, I don't get the hate directed towards these young men, especially after they have left our rival school. To be honest, Ute basketball hasn't been anything to write home about as of late. And I really don't want to look up Jimmer's W/L record against the Utes, but I know it was pretty good. I was happy to see him graduate!!!

    Now if we can just fire Chris Hill and work towards a winning PAC 12 season...

  • Jason R Sandy, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 4:54 p.m.

    I think Chris B. is still upset about Jimmer dropping 47pts on his Utes a few years back. Bro, let it go. You obviously haven't been doing your research bc other teams are interested. He'll be in the league for 10+ years.

  • pak12thdurmaatt Salt Lake City , UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 4:34 p.m.

    Chris b remember the time Jimmer dropped 47 on us. You sound still hurt from it.
    Jimmer already made more money than you will make in 10 life time. Sorry Chris.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 4:25 p.m.

    @ Chris B.
    Why all the hating on BYU?

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 3:46 p.m.

    There are alot of "situational players" making millions in the NBA.

    Ya, looked real situational the other night in Madison Square Garden as he rained down 3's from looooong range.

    There are plenty of teams that could use some of that situational shooting.

    Granted, I agree he is pretty short (for what he does) and his defense is poor but so what. The list is long of players that meet that criteria especially when it comes to defense.

    Kanter plays like he is about as tall as Jimmer on the defensive end but somehow we tolerate that.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 25, 2014 3:28 p.m.

    Pretty fair analysis, Rock, but I still say his defensive deficiency is overstated..
    Having watched a number of Kings games, he is far from worst on his team, defensively. And from my years of watching the NBA, there really aren't that many skilled defensive players. It is just not a high priority in the NBA, especially during the regular season. The NBA wants scorers. Jimmer can do that. Jimmer is a proven producer offensively. And his character titer is off the scale. So why all the bias against him? Is it all the attention he got coming out of college? His whiteness?
    His Mormonism?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 3:11 p.m.

    Jimmer isn't a horrible player, he just isn't very good.

    I have nothing against him. He just isn't athletic, just like most of us Utah fans have been telling you guys.

    Yes, he's the best player at byu in 30 years. But that doesn't mean much.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 3:05 p.m.

    byu fans were right, they called it years ago.

    There is a player from a Utah college dominating the NBA, winning the rookie of the year, playing in the all star game, and one of the best 30 or so players in the league.

    It just wasn't the specific player they thought it would be.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2014 3:04 p.m.

    It was reported the Kings had been trying for quite some time to get just a second round pick in exchange for lottery pick Jimmer.

    Number of interested parties: 0

    The best player at byu in 30 years, and one of the top 2-3 players at byu EVER isn't good enough to even be a starter in the NBA.

    My guess is he'll get one more chance with another team in the NBA. He'll continue to sit the bench and within another year or two will finally be free; free to go anywhere in Europe that he wishes.

    Jimmer, I hear the Germany Buffalo in the Division II German league has you in their plans as STARTING point guard!