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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 25 2014 5:00 a.m. MST

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LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Try eating slower, and
did you know ---

That today's commercial breads have different yeast than 100 - 5,000 years ago?

In their zeal to increase profits and produce bread faster,
newer yeast cultures are being used,
that shorten the time required for the dough to rise.

Good old fashion sour doughs and neighborhood yeasts like your Grandma and Great Grandma used
did not cause the stomach troubles that have become so common today.

The common denominator is in the yeast.

Try it.

Dr. G
Bountiful, UT

LDS Liberal:

Where do you find the yeast your grandmother used?

Orem, UT

Welcome to the club. I've been diagnosed for 15 years, and have two children diagnosed as well. It gets easier. 15 years ago it was hard because the food industry didn't understand it all, but now they do, and adapting is much easier. Good luck on your diet.

David G Woolley
Bountiful, UT


Here's an awesome Chocolate Cake recipe that WE LOVE. Its flaky, light, moist, tastes great and there's NO FLOUR. We have a recipe for pizza dough (without flour) if you'd like it too. And, Costco just started selling organic Nutiva brand coconut flour for cheap. Yahoo!

Chocolate Cake

Place all the following ingredients in a powerful blender (vita mix), blend really good, pour into a bunt cake pan, bake for 40-45 min. at 350 degrees, cool, remove, serve with whipped cream and raspberries

3 cups whole almonds
1 cup local honey
1/2 cup unsweetened baking chocolate (we use Hershey's)
4 eggs
2 Cups Milk (we use raw milk that is kinder to your gut than pasteurized milk)
1/2 cup sour cream (optional)
4 TBSP lecithin (these little yellow guys make your cake super moist and congeals anything you bake and its a health food that is really good for your gut, you can get it at your local health food store and use it in all your alternative non grain dough and breads and crusts)
4 TBSP Chia Seeds (full of omega 3 oils and super good for your celiac disease)
1 tsp salt
1 tsp baking soda
1 tsp baking powder
1 tsp vanilla


LDS Liberal
Where do you get your nutrition info from?

Interesting article in Time, "Who Has the Guts for Gluten?"

It is important that testing be done correctly. Blood tests followed up with biopsies BEFORE any diet changes.

Medlineplus is a good site to find reliable, peer-reviewed medical info.

1.96 Standard Deviations


There was a letter from the Priesthood Department to various church leaders dated March 1, 2013. The memo/letter is entitled, "Sacrament for Members with Gluten Intolerance."

Here is the entire letter actually:

"Some members of the Church suffer from celiac disease or other serious intolerances
to gluten. In such cases, bishops are authorized to provide an appropriate substitute for
the regular sacrament bread, such as corn- or rice-based bread or crackers."

I don't know how you have the sacrament arranged for your personal situation, but I figured this notice may be of help.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

HealthFood stores,
They all said the same thing -- try natural wild yeast.

Natural wild yeast made from "starts" is how breads have been made for 5,000 years.
[Think the unleaven bread during Moses]

During WWII Fleishmann's devolped dry, fast rising yeast, and epedemic started.

I'm not saying it's going to work for everyone,
but before giving Glutten entirely and popping Big Pharmacuetical pills the rest of your life --
Why not try something less intrusive and more natural and see what happens.

Also, a good probiotic keeps things stable and nonirritated.

My family has a history of intestinal pallups and coloncancer.
Saw Docotrs for YEARS with no good results.
Like washing 7 times in the river --
I don't know all the How it works,
I just know that it does.

I'm fine now.

FYI -- I also noticed during my LDS Mission to Asia,
that eating Asian foods [noodles, vegatables, and NO dairy],
that my stomach settled -- I ate like a horse for 2 years.
Go back home -- sick again.
Back then, I thought it was being "Blessed by the Lord",
but looking back on it, I was blessed via his natural laws.

Clearfield, UT

Many people who started very low carbohydrate diets for weight loss or blood sugar control but had no idea what gluten was or whether they might have a problem with it, have had digestive problems that they had been taking for granted for years suddenly and magically fade away. This was my experience. If you have heartburn, flatulence, or intestinal pain problems try a no grain low carb diet for a month and see what happens.

Dr. G
Bountiful, UT

If you read the word of wisdom, you'll notice that grains have the same restrictions/prohibitions and does meat. Grains probably shouldn't be part of a regular diet. In our home we eat grains once every 3 to 6 months. Or less. But we have lots of grains in our food storage just in case of famine.

Autoimmune diseases occur when the body loses the ability to distinguish invading proteins from self-proteins that make up the body. The loss results in destruction of self-tissues by the immune system. Dietary cereal grains are noted to be causative agents for celiac disease and dermatitis herpetiformis, both autoimmune diseases. There are a number of diseases that may occur either simultaneously with celiac disease or on their won, including Addison's disease, asthma, autoimmune thyroid disease, dental enamel defects, epilepsy, liver disease, and rheumatoid arthritis. Withdrawal of gluten-containing cereals from the diet can ameliorate symptoms of celiac disease and herpetiformis.

Other autoimmune diseases may be related to a high intake of cereal grains, including insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (IDDM), rheumatoid arthritis, nephropathy, aphthous stomatitis (canker sores), and even multiple sclerosis.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

Pancreas, liver and kidneys are filters get slower and slower as we get older and older. That means we have to chew the food longer and longer giving time for the pancreas, liver and kidneys.



"HealthFood stores,
They all said the same thing -- try natural wild yeast."

That's where I thought you were getting your information.
Health Food stores are not a reliable source for nutritional science information.

Health food stores are not all bad--for example, they carry specialty items most grocery stores don't have. But I would no more use them as a factual source of info than I would my mechanic for medical advice.

Anchorage, AK

Jason, I'd like to add to 1.96 Standard Deviations comments.

There is a sister in my ward who is allergic to everything it seems. Anyway, she provides that which she is able to partake (Bishop approved I assume) and it's placed on the tray when bread is broken. The deacon makes sure she is served first to ensure someone else doesn't accidentally consume it.

Duncan, OK

My wife just finished reviewing the recent medical conference on Celiac Disease. Celiac is incurable, though somewhat treatable, and means a lifetime without gluten.

The real surprise is how this wheat-triggered disease relates to the Word of Wisdom. Most members think wheat as the "staff of life" (verse 14) means that wheat is man's best year round food and should be eaten often. And many members, and priesthood leaders, believe that challenging wheat consumption is theologically improper.

In reality, that is not what is implied by "staff of life." Take a look at verse 15. Focus on the pronoun "these." What does it refer to? Grain. And based on verse 15, when should we eat grain? Only in times of famines and excess of hunger! Now think about a staff. When do we need a staff? When we are physically weak.

Thus, according to this reading of the WoW, grain, (wheat), should be consumed basically when we need extra energy, like in winter. Not continuously at every meal and the major component of all snacks. Continuous wheat consumption will cause a leaky gut followed by degenerative and autoimmune diseases, including Celiac.

Health does begin in the navel. Wise nutrition is critical.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00


Health Food stores are not a reliable source for nutritional science information.
I would no more use them as a factual source of info than I would my mechanic for medical advice.

2:55 p.m. Feb. 25, 2014


OK, fine.

Go ahead and believe everything Doctors, and Big Pharm corporations tell you.
They want to "cure" people, just "treat" them. $$$

I know what I know,
and I know that I have been "cured" of a supposed "incurable disease" by making one simple little change.

I also know that 2.4 BILLION people in Asia Major and Asia Minor do not suffer as we do,
and their dietary sources have not changed in over 2,000 years.

[If you are LDS, trying reading D&C 89 about the Word of Wisdom. The very reason it is given in the first place is to warn of "conspiring men" who will seek to make us sick for profit.

Sad, good LDS believe it is ONLY about Tobacco, Alcohol, and coffee it much, much more than that...]

BTW -- I could careless if it was a mechanic who made me well, the medical doctors could not.


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