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Draper teen charged as adult makes first court appearance Monday

Published: Monday, Feb. 24 2014 10:55 a.m. MST

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cjb
Bountiful, UT

Is there real evidence she assented to the murder of the officer? If not she ought to be acquitted.

Gosh-DUH
Burlington, CT

Meagan Grunwald was an active participant in the death of Utah County Sheriff's Sgt. Cory Wride. My recommendation would be that she be eligible for parole after a time to ponder the consequences of her choices. I’m thinking about 70 years to ponder, then she could be considered for parole.

pleblian
salt lake city, utah

Life without parole would be tragic. My opinion is that life without parole, or even 40 years, would be a tremendous waste. Better to have this child for up to 50 or 60 years, with incentives which would allow her to be eligible for parole in 15-20.

Tragic still, is that in their rage, many would wish life in prison upon her.

The deputy is dead. It was very wrong. It is all so incomprehensibly sad.

wYo8
Rock Springs, WY

cruel and unusual punishment went out of the window with the bullets that killed or injured the officers.

Instereo
Eureka, UT

This is sad on so many levels. If she had sex with her boyfriend, the fact that he was 27 would condemned him because of the age difference. We do not know the power he had over her, what they did, and how it affected her. We are all angry at her boyfriend and can't take it out on him because he's dead but if he were alive and there wasn't a deputy shot and it was just about sex, she would be a victim and we'd be working to help her rehabilitate from her ordeal.

I hope over time we'll see the tragedy of this crime is layered with complications and not take it out on a victim who both happened to be there. The true perpetrator is dead.

I know it. I Live it. I Love it.
Provo, UT

Calling a teenager an adult isn't honest. Calling her a child isn't honest.

As it stands, I don't support charging teens as adults, mainly because unlike some I am fully willing to admit how stupid I was as a teenager. But at the same time, our current law is inadequate to help many youth. We definitely need a better system, but we don't need to forget that this girl is a human being.

The worth of every soul is great, including this girl. She needs our help. That's hard, especially for those she's hurt immeasurably. But through giving up hatred and helping her we can find a peace that an imperfect justice system will never provide. Cory Wride cared about the people he locked up and was a great man for it. We simply need to continue that example and serve justice the right way... in service of our fellow man.

Again, this girl needs our help... not our hate.

Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

From what I have read, this "Child" was at odds with her family and insisted her 27 year old boyfriend to live with them.
This insinuates the "Child" had a sexual relationship with the 27 year old and the "Child" was more than likely drinking and doing drugs.
The "Child" did prevail in getting her way.

donquixote84721
Cedar City, UT

From all reports, this child has NEVER known Mercy, and maybe it is time to temple Justice with Mercy.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

This was not some innocent "child" plucked from her crib in the dark of night. This was a 17 year old who was living in her parents' home with the killer, 10 years her senior, previously deported seven times, a felon who did time for attempted murder. And, reportedly she is pregnant by him.

There was ample opportunity for her to reject the killer's companionship, and to escape the vehicle after the crime rampage began, but she stayed with him. Pretty adult decisions, even if very bad ones.

If you cannot do the time, then don't do the crime.

Her lawyer is just doing what lawyers do, and we need to focus on the facts, not the heart tugging stories he will tell about how she was a good little girl.

The parents "got some explaining to do" about their acceptance of this inappropriate relationship. And, they should be charged with harboring a fugitive as well as complicity in statutory rape for tolerating their sexual relationship.

She is an adult who has made a lot of bad choices, and needs to be punished (if found guilty). Life is good, 70 years before parole would be adequate..

Lobotech
Grantsville, UT

Child? I was active duty at her age. Yes, I made mistakes then. But, I paid for them as well.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Unless there is clear evidence that she assented to this murder, charges should never have been filed and she should not be convicted.

luv1another
riverton, UT

This is so sad. I am sad for the young lady, but I am mostly sad about the children who lost their father from this terrible shooting. How many years of their life will they not have their wonderful father with them.

As to calling this young lady a "Child" I have no knowledge of her mental age. However, when I was seventeen I was in boot camp in Fort Ord, California being prepared to go to Vietnam. I never considered my self a child then.

God bless the family of this slain officer and God bless this young lady.

Northern
Logan, UT

It don't know the right anwser here but what I do know is that when a 17 yr old has sex with a 20 year old they are a child child child and are not at fault.

When a 15, 16, 17, year attacks someone all of a sudden they are tried as adults.

I wish neither of these incidents happened but it seems like a dbl standard and seems wrong.
Either treat both incidents as adults or neither.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

What is the Deseret News' policy of publishing names and photos of minors in the paper? No matter what she did, she is under the age of 18.

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

Without diminishing the seriousness of what she did, I would nevertheless reserve life without parole for those criminals who have been through the system repeatedly and demonstrated that they cannot and will not be rehabilitated. If she can be rehabilitated and demonstrates it, releasing her down the road would free up one more costly prison cell for someone else who needs to be locked up to protect us. It's entirely possible that she won't change, and that she'll be a danger to society forever. If so, she wouldn't be able to obtain early release and would do a lengthy sentence. That's why we spend good money to maintain a parole board that will review the case from time to time and make that determination. Right now, though, it's too soon to decide if she can and will ever change.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Zabriski says, "Her experiences, except for this last horrendous experience, have been that of a child. So being locked up in an adult environment with these charges, I would guess, is traumatizing for her."

So how traumatizing for Wride's family was this whole instance? They got their husband and farther killed. How about the trauma to the other deputies family?

Sounds like this girl practiced cruel and unusual punishment on these two cops. She deserves everything that she gets. And I hope it is a long prison sentance.

If she's still pregnant, the courts ought to immediately terminate her parental rights prior to the child being born and give it up for adoption right after birth.

GreatScot
Eagle Mountain, UT

I would be interested to know if this was a "control" relationship where she felt an obligation to comply. That doesn't excuse the crime, but in the case of a teenager would be a mitigating circumstance, in my opinion. Putting emotions aside, 20 years is a long, long, long time to spend in jail for driving the car while someone else is committing a crime. A very expensive solution to a problem that could probably be solved with a lesser sentence and some therapy. If she was holding a gun, or shooting at someone, that's a different story.

Jack-P
West Valley, UT

Many people seem to know that Megan Grunwald was an "active participant" when no evidence has been presented yet. It's the, guilty until proven innocent, principle of law enforcement at work.

roberto
Moses Lake, WA

Adult crime adult time. We're not teaching her or anybody else the proper lesson if she isn't treated as an adult. Her boyfriend was on the right side of justice.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

I think we are confusing chronological age and the magic number of 18 as a hard and fast dividing line for culpability of actions. One day you are a child, turn 18 and you are an adult. This may not be the best way to go about the matter.

I think we are confusing age with attitude. Behavior betrays or demonstrates attitude toward the law and society. We also do not know what evidence or how the prosecution will proceed with their case. We do know that the defense is playing the sympathy card early and I suspect the “mom to be” card will be forthcoming as well.

IMO the 18 years old and now an adult in all aspects is foolish. Majority was, in my youth, 21. This idea from the founding fathers was that a person was more mature and capable as functioning as an independent person at 21. Some countries have a higher age.

It is the law of unintended consequences at work. Politically correct laws, reducing age of majority to 18 places emerging youth into an adult world ill-prepared to deal with it.

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