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Published: Sunday, Feb. 23 2014 9:20 p.m. MST

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UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"Yet Obama seems so fixated on it that he will not risk annoying Putin by voicing full-throated support for the Ukrainian protesters."

And there in lies the problem with George, and many others. This is a Ukrainian problem. It is a problem being solved by Ukrainians, for Ukrainians. If the US got its dog into the fight, it would then be seen as a puppet war between the US and its interest, and Russia and its interest... and regardless of who won, the other side would see it as illegitimate.

There are times when the most supportive thing the US can do is to stay out of it. The Taliban will never back off in Afghanistan, because they see the current government as something the US installed, for its own benefit. There are like issues in Iraq. The only way to achieve lasting peace is for the locals to decide for themselves their own representative government, not something a foreign country mandated or dictated to them. The middle east is a mess largely because our friends the Brits left unnatural shaped and governed nations behind.

So lets stay out of it.. and let Ukrainians decide.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Obama is out of his league when he tries to out think Putin as we have seen from Syria, who incidentally still has not surrendered nearly any of their chemical weapons and probably never will. They don't have any respect for the paper tiger who warned them not to "cross the line".

Fyodor Mikhailovich
Salt Lake City, UT

An interesting article where Will makes partial statements of truth but leave out a great deal. First the defeat of an internationalist Marxism happened long before this--and by Lenin himself who in 1921 created a "socialism in one country" mantra (and to be expanded and intensified by Stalin in 1928) and actually defeated any world wide Marxist revolution (Trotsky remained a true believer however). And second, there are as many Ukrainians who want to stay with Russia as there are who want to break away. There is no unified agreement in Ukraine and while Yanukovich (who was corrupt as was every other Ukrainian leader since time immemorial) is gone, there is no one leading (the head of the parliament has been declared leader and he has no clue what to do). So in picking sides here, there is no one side to pick. I quite agree that the Ukrainians will need to decide this for themselves and how it will come out is completely up in the air. Will just likes to bloviate about things he knows practically anything about.

SEY
Sandy, UT

Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland spilled the beans that the Obama administration is somehow involved in Ukranian affairs. To assume that our government has a hands-off policy there is to believe in fairy tales. I'd be more interested to find out what few places are left where our government is NOT involved. Is there such a place?

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Mountainman.... Putin lost in the Ukraine, and he is loosing in Syria. When the president of Ukraine is stripped of his powers... how can you even begin to conjure that up as a win for Putin?

Jack
Aurora, CO

@ UtahBlueDevil,
Do you really think that Putin will just tuck his tail and go home, never to meddle in Ukraine again? If you do, I have a swamp in Arizona for sale. This is just the start of the attempt to "consolidate" the former Soviet states back into the fold. This isn't just a Ukraine problem, this affects the whole region, and reaches far into area of foreign policy that our current administration seems unable to grasp. We certainly don't want to sit on our thumbs until it gets to be a shooting war that sucks the US in. We need to be actively engaged diplomatically, ensuring that our interests and those of the region and world are respected. We must be adamant that Mr Putin keeps his fingers out of that situation so the Ukrainians can decide for themselves what they want, without interference. As for Syria....where do you think they got their chemical weapons? Iraq maybe?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Mountanman
Uh... the pro-Putin leader of Ukraine was booted out.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

alt134 Actually Putin already is running Ukraine!

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

@Jack.... this is a Ukrainian problem first, a European problem second. If that isn't clear, we have other issues. Any US involvement that overtly directly pushes a political solution will back fire. No one wants to be seen as a US puppet - just like they don't want to been seen as a Russian puppet.

As to Syria... got any proof... or is that just conjecture? Could have been North Korea. Could have been Russia. Could have been self made.

Mr. Putin has seen a couple of geopolitical set backs in the last 12 months. Will he storm in there like he did Georgia, time will tell. But is a European issue. Jack... what cost are you willing to pay to settle this dispute with Putin - how many lives are you willing to back the bluster up with? You need to be really clear about this. We have done a good job not getting into a proxy war with Russia in Syria... lets not get into one in Ukraine. Poland who has great links to both parties (EU & Russia) is doing a good job here mediating this. This isn't about US ego thumping or partisan politics.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Smog hurts everyone

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

Great synopsis of the situation in Ukraine and Obama's ineffective leadership, in this and many other important matters.

When Hillary came up with the ad questioning who we would want answering the White house phone at 3 A.M. she was, of course, suggesting that Obama wouldn't be as capable as she to handle whatever crisis such a call implied.

While I think she would have been no better (remember Benghazi!) I definitely agree that few would be worse than Obama. We need better, more honest, more capable people at every level of government, but no more so than as President. I sure hope we do better at choosing next time we get the chance.

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