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Published: Friday, Feb. 21 2014 8:05 p.m. MST

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M. Matchette
Syracuse, Utah

As long as they have voting machines where the vote is counted in a foreign country, or not counted manually within my district from paper vote cards, I don't want any part in the establishments voter fraud scheme. You can have it!

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

The belief that primaries are better is a false belief. In many states people win primaries with well under 50% of the votes cast. Nor have I yet been convinced that participation in primaries is actually higher.

windsor
City, Ut

I think people would be willing to "waste their time" if they felt any good came from it.

ksampow
Farr West, Utah

DN Subscriber: Contrary to what some extremely conservative elites argue, "count my vote" is about increasing participation. This statement from the LDS church is also about increasing participation. So your comment is misguided. I am a precinct chair, leading caucus meetings regularly, and I also attend party conventions regularly. But I find it offensive that many who benefit from the current caucus system always talk like they are better at choosing candidates than the general public because they are "more committed." Family, jobs, military service, and many other reasons keep people away from caucuses - people who deserve the right to have their votes counted.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

l.cee
Ridgefield, WA
Did you get that? "...church facilities and meetings are not to be used for political purposes or discussions."

No more political jabs, pleadings and snickers will go on in Gospel Doctrine classes any more.

One can only hope.

11:42 a.m. Feb. 22, 2014

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Agreed.
I've walked out of Church 2 weeks in a row now from comments being in Gospel doctrine and High Priest Group.

On another note --

Funny to listen to people complain about "Count My Vote",
and do NOTHING about "Citizens United" - leaving elections to be run and fixed by Corporations.

It's like citizens can't even see our Democrotic Republic dying and being replaced by;

Oligarchy,
Plutocracy,
Corporatocracy,

The Governments of Gadiatons.

Lilly Munster
netherlands, 00

This is how it always works. First, they "suggest" that you attend. Then they "suggest" who's platform you should vote for. But under no circumstances, do they tell you "how" to vote. Could this Coercion be any more apparent?

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

After so many low information voters showed up in 2012 I think that most of them learned their lesson, that politics is not for the faint in heart. Most even with LDS Church encouragement will not show up again. They just don't want to put that much effort into the political process.

The push for caucus attendance last time was more about getting Sen Hatch re-elected than anything else. The Church didn't want Sen Hatch ending up on the political ash heap along with Sen Bennett.

The LDS Church leadership along with the wealthy and political elite don't want the unwashed masses dumping their guys in Washington. This is also the motivation behind the cynical Count My Vote ballot initiative.

Utah's caucus, convention, primary is one of the best systems in the nation for selecting candidates. It allows candidates to be selected that may not be the choice of the wealthy and political elite.

In a direct primary the candidates are vetted by the wealthy and political elite. They are not vetted by the people because their direct contact with regular voters is limited.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

I think I could fairly say that there are many here that don't understand the difference between a democracy and a republic! Count my vote is the equivalent of mob rule, something that power hungry men love because they can now manipulate the electorate with there money! The count my vote people are the establishment republicans, the patronizes, who just want the power! The people are just a hindrance to their "lofty"plans in office. They are still ticked off that the new upstart Mike Lee got in and is making a difference! Count my vote thrives on ignorance, but not here! Voice your opinion and educate yourself!

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