Of course they're going to move the prison, the companies the legislators
own need more money. It WILL cost a lot more than they're saying it will
but they don't care. There are canals and hot springs running through the
property, I really hope that once the current buildings come down that there are
lawsuits to stop construction of any new buildings.
Where did this $102 million come from? The report estimated the prison move
would be close to $1 billion. Something is rotten in Denmark, ahem...Draper.
Once again Utah is focused on the wrong thing- remediation and not prevention.
Just think how much less important a prison would be if we invested $100 million
- $1 billion in education. The majority of inmates in Utah did not graduate
highschool. Why are we not investing in Prevention through our schools? Spending
money on helping kids develop self-worth while young will make a big difference
in their future and lead to Utah not needing such a large prison. Still
confused why raising taxes for a prison is a great conservative idea, but
raising taxes for education is never a good idea.
Wish the article had mentioned how the move will benefit the Department of
Corrections and the inmates. Maybe Rep.Brad Wilson didn't mention the hows,
so that is why the article doesn't include them. Shouldn't benefiting
the prison system be the prime concern, if not the only one? Why move it, if it
takes away from the quality of the prison? Another site is not likely to be
found so close to the courts and lawyers and medical needs. More importantly,
when we consider location, another site so close to volunteers is not likely to
be found (or even pursued). The prison does have some reputation for having good
volunteers. One of the greatest needs for rehabilitating a person is to have
good influences, people who will come and be role models and teach and help and
direct them aright. The Point of the Mountain location is convenient for people
to visit the prisoners. Why, in the name of letting someone make a dollar, would
we move it to another location?
The $102 million is how much they can sell the land for, the $1 billion is the
amount the state will borrow to give to the developers to rebuild on it and
welfare labor cost to incoming industry.Of course the GOP will sell
the land at a loss and developer it at a loss and call it a profit and job
makers paying below minimum wages for a couple hundred poverty jobs. Its an
ordained event, the welfare of the environment, air quality, and health issues
are irrelevant since we will have Obama care insurance that won't help the
sick or working class or poor people.How are the poor going to buy
Obama care when they don't make any money? How will 1.5 million workers in
Utah fund the health care of the 3 million citizens and undocumented foreign
nationals? The Utah exchange will never see any of the $500 million dollars from
medicaid, its all earmarked to fund the prison relocation and UTA expansion and
people will die to fund it. That's the beauty of Utah financial system,
there is no designated use requirements therefore redistribution is at the will
of the governor.
Of course they endorse moving the State prison!It's an election
year, and since most of the Legislators are Land Devolpoers anyway, they need their other Land Devolper buddies to pay for their re-elections!It's like a Good 'ol Boy's Club, for elitists.
In my not so humble opinion, this is not a good idea for the prison or those who
provided services, both paid and volunteers. The ancillary costs of
transportation to courts, medical care, families who visit inmates will be
higher. I think the legislature is short sighted on this one. I do
not want a full-time legislature, and accept that part-time amateurs are often
challenged by full-time jobs and conflict of interests in much of their law
making but this just smells bad from the start.I give them credit
for a well planned PR program of broaching the topic, conducting a
"study" and allegedly seeking input. It has been a good "Dog and
Pony Show" to watch.Can anyone cite information that the
national economy is poised to invest millions of dollars in a new site for
expansion of any business that could conceivably occupy the proposed
developments on the prison site. I doubt it.The next show to watch
will be who is left holding the bag for this fiasco, and how fast the
legislators who sponsor this deal run and hide from responsibility.To paraphrase HotRod "Utah Legislature, you gotta love it, baby!"
Let's see...We can't afford to give our children a better
education, and we can't afford to fix our filthy air.[#1
and #2 on citizens' request]but, We ALWAYS have
enough money to move prisons and help developers!Yep, We must
be in Utah -- and not in Zion.
The rendering accompanying this article showing the development potential of the
state prison property once the prison is relocated is absolutely rediculous. It
is a pure pipe dream. It reminds me of the rendering for two 50 story buildings
in downtown Salt Lake proposed years ago by the Saudi Arabian
armsdealer/developer Adnan Khashoggi. He promised it would happen. It never
did. The rendering showing the future of the state prison property tries to
make us believe that this will be bigger than downtown Salt Lake City which has
taken over 100 years to get to the point where it is today. If anyone really
believes the state prison property will be developed in such a fashion I have
that proverbial land in Florida to sell to you.