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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 19 2014 12:00 a.m. MST

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Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

Bush looks better every day

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Agreed!
Yet another great, well-balanced article by Richard Davis.

I for one will admit -- I go off on Gerge W Bush far to often,
but I could never hold a candle to the critics of Pres. Obama.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

By following the Bush/Cheney administration President Obama has had a tough row to hoe, but he has performed admirably. He has steadily improved the extremely weak economy he inherited, he has slowly extricated us from the Bush wars, and he has fought conservatives every step of the way to improve our countries healthcare.

If he had had ANY help from the virulently anti Obama conservative right, he could have been one of the very best presidents ever.

Despite the hysterical opposition, history will rate Obama as a very good leader!

LiberalEastCoastMember
Parkesburg, PA

Excellent point. Some say we shouldn't look to past administrations as a yardstick to measure this one. That this president should be judged wholly on the merits of what he has or has not done.

This of course is wrong headed! Barack Obama is president precisely because of the shortcomings, mistakes and failures of previous administrations. His success (or failure) in office will be determined largely by his ability to 1) clean up the messes left by previous administrations and reestablish the economic cultural and economic underpinnings of the country.

While he is in office my hopes and prayers are with him as they've been with every president before him.

Mark l
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

OK, there are many critics of President Obama. But you wound't know there was anything to criticize about this President from the dominant, liberal, establishment, mass media.

Invisible Hand
Provo, UT

Davis cherry picks a few instances in which the critics were wrong. What about all the times when the critics were right? It's tough to be objective when we are in the heat of the moment but even the left-wingers who post on this board should admit that Obama hasn't lived up to his pre-presidential rhetoric. He promised to work with the other side and then promptly froze Republicans out of any discussion, dismissing them with the phrase "elections have consequences". He promised to unite, and have transparency but his actions have been the opposite.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Yawn, another Davis BO apology column

BO does not belong in the conversation with ANY of the men mentioned; Carter, Harding, and Buchanan, maybe.

Davis said he was not trying to draw comparisons, but then the whole point of the article is to draw comparisons, so Davis contradicts himself.

Let's talk about those presidents he mentions.

Jefferson WAS a coward. The British invaded the VA capital while Jefferson was governor. Did he help organize the defenses? Help with an evacuation? Remove government documents? No, he ran away. Sounds like cowardice to me.

AND an adulterer. Ever hear of Maria Cosway?

Jackson ranked among the top 10? Not to the Seminole. And he either caused or exacerbated the banking crisis of the 1830s.

Truman ending strikes. He sent the navy into Coalwood, WV to occupy the town in support of the UMW, cutting the population off from the town (company) doctor and the navy doctor had orders to treat only military personnel. Yup, Truman did a great job there.

Just because there have been attacks and criticisms of past presidents does not mean they were not warranted. And BO is certainly worthy of criticism, more so than any prior president.

Esquire
Springville, UT

The haters will hate, and nothing will dissuade them. I will say, I've never known a President since FDR who has had to deal with such a deep hole to lead us out of, at the same time having the opposition swear to ensure his failure before he even took the oath of office. Under the circumstances, this President has performed admirably.

Here is some reality. The rapid rise and success of President Obama, who was a junior Senator and quickly became President, has led to enormous jealousy by Washington politicians - in both parties (but mostly in the GOP). There are other Washington insiders who are angry because they were denied positions when Obama tightened up the revolving door. There is, in fact, racism involved with some, overt and not (mostly not overt, but it's there). In the end, the people elected President Obama by goodly margins, not once but twice. The venom should cease, for the good of the country. A few bumps, yes, every adminstration has them. But considering where things were in 2008, we are doing pretty darn good.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Very good, objective article. BO will be a very historical President. First Black, followed one of the worst administrations in our history, oversaw a dramatic shift in healthcare, restored touhger financial regulations and was a very partisan, polarizing leader.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

If the measure of a president's worth is his ability to dig us out of the hole the previous administration left us in, then our next president has the best chance of being the best president ever.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

The greatest enemy of our nation is from within, not from without.

The sooner Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin and FoxNews are gone - the better.

The Taliban and AlQueda knocked over some buildings,
and we need medai watch-dogs,
but
these guys are snake oil salesmen, charlitans,
and are responsible for tearing this nation apart...and they are being paid very well for it too, I might add...

Batman - Bane, and Bain capital?
The Lego's Movie is anti-business and political -- Ha-Ha, anything for a buck.

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

Actions speak louder than words. What has Obama done?

If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.
Families will save on their premiums.
Shovel ready jobs.
We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime.
We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight years.
I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office.
We’ve got to spend some money now to pull us out of this recession. But as soon as we’re out of this recession, we’ve got to get serious about starting to live within our means, instead of leaving debt for our children and our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren.
We reject sweeping claims of ‘inherent’ presidential power.

Has he kept his promises? NO!

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

To those defending the critics.
Do you ask those critical of the mormon church, their opinion when the LDS church makes a policy change or public statement?
Do you think that opinion would be biased or valid and an important part of the discussion?

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

In the first place, the economic damage that Obama inherited was caused by the federal government meddling in the housing and banking market causing over inflated housing prices, which busted, as these things always do. America's social and economic problems are mostly the consequences of the federal government spending money we don't have and over reaching and over regulating the very elements that create prosperity; the private sector. If you think the government is capable of fixing our problems you will always be disappointed in any President, regardless of party. The more the government taxes the private sector the higher unemployment will become. The more welfare the government issues that rewards personal failure and poor individual choices the more poor people there will be. The more the government punishes success and achievement, the less we will have of it in every level of our nation. The government is the problem, not the solution.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Since they started doing presidential approval polls there has only been one president who never had a negative rating throughout his term. That was JFK.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:Esquire

So the criticism should cease for the good of the country huh? It would take alot more than 200 words to detail the scandals (Fast n Furious, Benghazi cover up, IRS Intimidation) as well as the compounded and repeated lies about "if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance and your doctor...period". All of these disgusting scandals and lies have hurt families all across America and continue to do so. Your beloved Socialist leader would have never been re-elected had he been truthful about Obamacare and had he not ordered his attack dog IRS to intimidate conservative groups prior to the 2012 election. Barack is THE most corrupt man to ever hold the office of president and perhaps the saddest thing of all are his clueless disciples who would NEVER ignore similar corruption from a Republican president.... nor should they. America is in sharp decline BECAUSE of Barack Obama. I think of the tens of thousands of high paying jobs that would be produced if we simply took advantage of the energy on our own public lands ....as is happening on private lands in the Dakotas ...but I guess welfare checks are better than jobs ...right?

E Sam
Provo, UT

A nicely researched, well reasoned article. Greeted by some with the usual conservative vitriol. But history will render its own verdict.

Esquire
Springville, UT

"patriot", you prove my point. The hate overrides rational and objective assessment of the President. The facts, not right wing hate rhetoric, will be the measure of this or any other President. I accept that you are among those who will never accept a rational and objective assessment of where we were and where we are 5 years later, who will never acknowledge the mess we were in BEFORE he took office, when McCain suspended his campaign. People forget the dire circumstances we faced in 2008. And even in those times, the GOP leadership swore to make the new President a failure. They put power and privilege above the interests of the people. I have no interest in gong back to those times. If the GOP had a vision, showed even a hint of putting us first, I would consider them. But they have nothing to offer. Lest you think I am a left winger, that's not so. The GOP has convinced me that they are morally bankrupt and should not lead the country with their current dearth of ideas and policies. They are purely tools of wealthy interests, not servants of the people.

LiberalEastCoastMember
Parkesburg, PA

You're right Invisible Hand, BO hasn't lived up to his promises but neither has any other president or politician before him. Thus, the view of history.

That said, please, please before you go making statements like "He promised to work with the other side and then promptly froze Republicans out of any discussion, dismissing them with the phrase "elections have consequences". He promised to unite, and have transparency but his actions have been the opposite., you would be well served and your arguments would be sounder if you would research what really happened.

Older Than I Once Was
South Jordan, UT

I find it interesting that Richard Davis, in his endless worship of all things liberal, suggests that Obama's low approval ratings are irrelvant. Just recently, he was using approval ratings as a measure for Congress (Jan. 8 - "Are the Two Major Parties in Trouble?"). It is unclear why he has now changed his mind, other than the fact that Obama can do nothing wrong according to Davis.

Davis also argued (see DNews article "Obama is Right to Move Deliberately Against Syria") that Bush rushed into war in a "go it alone" approach (conveniently forgetting the 39 countries that joined us--including such little known countries as Great Britain, Australia, Italy...etc.) In fact, he has been so deliberate that hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions displaced and we have done...nothing.

Of course, Obama would never use a "go it alone" approach with...say, executive orders. Critics will point out that he is not the first to use such tactics. True, but please don't insist that he isn't a "go it alone" guy. Perhaps that has something to do with his approval ratings. Oh, wait, I forgot--those measurements are irrelevant.

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