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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 18 2014 10:25 a.m. MST

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Bifftacular
Spanish Fork, Ut

I too have done dangerous things in the name of religion. Why just last night I had to tell the Relief Society that the gym was reserved for Deacon's basketball. Talk about dangerous!

Neanderthal
Phoenix, AZ

@wjutjck:
"... therefore, we cannot fast for 40 days and 40 nights as Christ did and expect to live."

If Jesus can fast for 40 days and nights without dying, He could do it for 140 days and nights as well... In fact, He could live and never take a bite of food, ever. No mortal or even semi-mortal can live for 40 days and nights without food and water. Sorry.

Demosthenes
Rexburg, ID

The preacher must not have been faithful. Right?

LadyMoon
Crestucky, FL

I expect Coots... knew what it was before he picked it up~

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

The Economist,

"If I'm not mistaken, I think I read where the scriptural passage in Matthew 16:17-18 wasn't in the early manuscripts of the Bible, but were added later...."
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The cited passage is from Mark but you're right that it was probably not part of the original text. Later scribes played a key role in development of the Gospels which show the influences of cultures in early Christianity's non-Jewish convert communities. Snake charming in Biblical times dates back into ancient Egypt and was practiced by magicians of the gods. The Old Testament treats it as a practice of idolatrous worship.

Area 52
Tooele, UT

Chris B,

Actually, there is "medical research" that fasting is good for the body (which includes not drinking water). Also, fasting is not an everyday occurrence because of course you would die without consuming water. You have to remember, those guidelines of drinking 8 glasses of water are "guidelines" and not everybody needs 8 glasses of water a day. We can get most of our water intake from foods like fruit and vegies. I've eaten strictly vegan before and I never had to drink water. The best indicator is the color of your urine.

Next time, before you lecture us on how much water we should drink a day please do your homework.

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

@ Bifftacular Thank you for the laughter.

@ Mountanman

A miracle came out of all this. For the first time I am in agreement with you.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Area 52,

Please point me to specific medical research that says not drinking water for 24 hours straight on a regular basis every so often is good for health.

You said it, now back it up.

You will also note I never said every person has to drink 8 glasses of water a day. I said that is the general recommendation from all medical information I can find.

Next time you want to lecture me on my comments, read(and understand) my comments.

I'll look forward to your evidence on not drinking water for 24 hours straight being recommended.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Chris B,

Actually, the 8 glasses a day thing is widely reputed to be false. Slate has a few articles on this. Snopes as well.

As to fasting - a quick search comes up with several options (though not specific to water fasting). Scientific American had an article in 2012 that might help. Note that these are health not dieting benefits (just to be clear).

Area 52
Tooele, UT

Chris B.,

Keep in mind this is about what "Fasting" is and not. I’m not suggesting that a person should go without water for 24 hours after they ran a marathon, as an example. Fasting should be a planned event not some random thing. Below are a few medical studies or research about the benefits of fasting which does include abstaining from drinking water or liquids as well.

Mayo Clinic- Healthy Heart for Life!; Routine periodic fasting is good for your health, and your heart, study suggests." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 20 May 2011; Fasting and Eating for Health: Dr. Joel Fuhrman; Muliar LA, Mishchenko VP, Loban GA, Goncharenko LL, Bobyrev VN. Effect of complete fasting on the coagulative and antioxidative properties of blood. Voprosy Pitaniya 1984;4:20–23.

I just think it’s hypocritical for non-believers that do only things on the evidence of science only. Fasting has been around for thousands of years and not just Christians fast. Muslims, Jews, and other eastern religions have practiced fasting before modern science says it’s a good practice. Science will always change but God does not.

I just think you like to argue for the sake of arguing against anything with Utah religions.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Area,

"God doesn't change"? You mean, except when he does? Prohibitions on pork? Wine usage? Polygamy? Not sure what point you're trying to make by saying God doesn't change, but showing that people in Biblical times fasted hardly proves anything. It certainly doesn't prove whether fasting is healthy or not. More to follow...

Area 52
Tooele, UT

Chris B.,

You got to be kidding yourself... there are so many medical articles/studies/journals on the benefits of fasting. Let's change this around a little, why don't you prove to me that fasting is not healthy or there is no benefit from it. Have you ever fasted? I certainly have, and it definitely works both spiritually and physically, Can't wait to read what you provide.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Area

Your study from the Mayo clinic says that the reason fasting may be linked to better health is that people who fast on occasion tend to make better eating choices when they are not fasting. It also mentions something about regulating blood sugar levels, but that relates to food, not abstaining from water.

You still have yet to prove that not drinking water for 24 hours regularly has any health benefits.

Want to try again?

As for your spiritual benefits - this guy probably felt the same.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

Area 52

There are also studies that prove that drinking a moderate amount of alcohol can have health benefits... But I doubt you will follow those studies because alcohol is against the word of wisdom and god knows better then the studies, right?

CBAX
Provo, UT

Chris B,

Christianity flies in the face of science.

CBAX
Provo, UT

Chris B,

Could you please prove that Jesus came down from the heaven to save man from sin?

While you're at it, I want to know that when the pope speaks Ex Cathedra that it REALLY is from God.

I just don't know, some people vote for the pope (most), others vote for ellen G White, others for joseph Smith... Please prove to me who is right.

perhaps we can start with cletus clement and Linus... idk, then prove to me jesus

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

CBX,

Reference science. Your concept would not fly with some of the fathers of science - including Newton.

football43
Morgan, UT

My 2 cents.....

32 years ago in a Health class at Weber State university I answered a test question about how much water we should drink on a daily basis. Not sure what I answered, but the correct answer was "slightly beyond excess". Our memories are weird......

Here
Sandy, UT

I think the point for me is that we would be wise to not tempt God. That's it in a nutshell.

However, regarding Christianity "flying in the face of science", please remember that science hasn't always been right on. Scientists two-three hundred years ago who contributed a lot of truth were also making lots of mistakes (i.e. blood-letting, the make-up of the atom), and the process continues today.

Reconciling science and faith can be one of the most crucial and interesting endeavors of life. But don't attribute to science infallibility over faith. There is so much we still DON'T know scientifically about the human body, the ocean, the universe, etc. We're making strides, but the more we see, the more we see we have still yet to learn.

I believe faith makes us wake up in the morning and moves us along during the day. It has a lot to do with our feelings when we see a newborn baby. Sure, science has something to say about those things too, but so does faith. I believe we'll someday come to understand and reconcile the benefits of both faith and science.

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