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Published: Friday, Feb. 28 2014 9:40 p.m. MST

Updated: Saturday, March 1 2014 5:51 a.m. MST

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ADIDAS
Tooele County, UT

Looking at the UHSAA brackets for 3A shows no consolation, so no games besides just the winners?

Just Me
Richfield, UT

Re: ADIDAS

Nice call! I was going to post the same thing.

USHSAA are you SERIOUS? I thought this was about the student athletes.

The state experience is something many of these kids look forward to for their entire life. I have a feeling SUU may be the culprit. They want the "cream" of money the tourney brings in, however, do not want to be annoyed with anything beyond the "winners." Last year in 2A the teams had to play all consolation games @ local high schools. It was terrible because as a fan you wanted to see some teams play that had kids you knew and liked, but it wasn't feasible to drive all around Cedar City trying to find this game and that game.

Let's hold it in a place that can provide an entire tourney. One loss and go home after a potential 200 mile PLUS drive?

Give me a break.

Cowboys29
Grantsville, UT

Agree! I often wonder why 3A is the only classification to play home first round games? Don't they earn the right to go to the actual tournament site? Play 20 something games and then have to play one game to earn the right to go to tourney. And now this year no consolation games? Talk about waste of travel costs!! Teams will travel large distances for first round to play ONE game! And THEN the next week have to drive AGAIN to SUU. UHSAA is once again not concerned with lower classifications. Can anyone explain the reasoning of this??

carver
Enterprise, UT

What's wrong with 2A having the sixteen team tourney that 1A has. There are twenty four teams in 2A now. So the tourney would not be watered down that much. Plus, every team would get to play at least two games. The one and done is not a great reward for post season play. And, the girls tourney could be played the same week as the play in games and the boys the week it has always been scheduled. Plus, two weekends would generate more money for all involved.

true observer
Cedar, Utah

SUU has nothing to do with not having a consolation bracket. The decision was made by the state to no longer have consolation games. Whether the games are played at Weber, Utah, or BYU the gym is the same size and there is only one gym to play in. The high school gyms were used last year because the smaller classifications want to take so many teams to the State tournament. The University facility cannot handle all the games due to time not size. I do believe that for a few years now neither the 4A or 5A teams have played consolation games either. Who wants to play a consolation game after your dream to win a State Championship is gone?

football43
Morgan, UT

Wow, no consolation games? That is a long way to drive to potentially watch just one game. I really like the consolation bracket as it allows you to make an entire basketball weekend. Now, not so sure I would spend the weekend if my team is not playing. I am sure the host city would like more teams staying and spending dollars. Oh well, hope my teams can make it until the last day.

Just Me
Richfield, UT

Re: True Observer

Give me a break. There was as many teams last year as there has been in past years and SUU handled it just fine. It was a time issue, you are correct. SUU wanted to host the tourney to get the money AND still have their scheduled college game. If ya can't do it right...don't do it!!!

As for your "dream to win a championship" I find that a funny statement considering they were telling parents and players last year to hurry up and get off the floor because they had "a college game that night." Wow. you get your dream and get told "NEXT!!!" Good facility; poorly ran and scheduled.

Also, have 4A & 5A play in Cedar and see the backlash. You hold it on the Wasatch Front and all the teams basically sleep at home anyway. Total different experience for the lower classifications. Two boo's. One to UHSAA and SUU.

Just Me
Richfield, UT

And if it's a time issues, HOW did Weber State handle it last year in 3A with the exact same amount of teams?

Howard Wilkin
SLC, UT

Just Me--you are looking in the wrong place. It all starts with the Principals and the Executive Committee. UHSAA and SUU have nothing to do with the decision.

Just Me
Richfield, UT

The Executive committee? What do you mean?

Howard Wilkin
SLC, UT

Just Me-The Executive Committee is who oversees all of HS sports in Utah. They are made up of principals and ADs from all of the regions across the state. They are who tell UHSAA what to do.

JD Books
Sulphurdale, UT

The only facility that has no college or conference affiliation that has to be worked around is the Sevier Valley Center in Richfield. All the brackets and all of the games can be played there. UVU had to send the state wrestling tournament to the Maverik Center last week because of their conference affiliation with the Wac and playing one game. At least 1A thru 3A could have been hosted at the Sevier Valley Center.
With SUU and UVU becoming more involved in their conference affiliations they will be able to host less and less.

Dcwatcher1
Btfl, UT

It says Layton won the coin toss... The DeNews presumed that, but actually Fremont won the flip and chose to be seeded #2 so they'd be in opposite bracket as Riverton.. I think maybe AF is better than Lehi at this point in the season... interesting.

KPED
Hurricane, UT

As a former executive committee member, allow me to add this correction--

The executive committee is made up of principals only (no ADs) plus 3 other reps..their recommendations go to the Board of Trustees which is made up of School Board Members from each region. The executive committee reps get feedback from their regions and hold several meetings prior to putting any decision to a vote and advanced to the Board of Trustees.

There has been a trend to move away from loser-bracket games for a number of reasons. Time is a big factor as it is difficult to schedule all the layers of a full elimination tournament when the 3A, 4A, and 5A schools often share the same venue. Cost is also a factor as the local university faciliities are expensive. Availability is a factor as some institutions are already booked for other events. There is much pressure from the state school board and legisilators to keep students in school as much as possible. The current format does reduce the days out of school for students, teachers, and administrators. It also reduces the costs for hotels and some transportation.

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