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Published: Sunday, Feb. 16 2014 10:36 p.m. MST

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RichardB
Murray, UT

It seems that Republicans are the only party listening to the American worker. If it was up the Democrats the toxic senate bill would be depressing wages and raising unemployment for at least 10 years, according to the Congressional budget office.

Amnesty is failed policy, if passed, it just kicks the can down the road, and next time it will be 30 million.

Why do the business lobbyists keep telling us the border is secure?

"The statistics are actually a little deceptive," Obama said last month (sept 2011) during a discussion with Hispanic journalists. There has been "a much greater emphasis on criminals than non-criminals." And "with stronger border enforcement, we've been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as a deportation even though they may have only been held for a day or 48 hours."

It's not just the border, but interior enforcement, e-verify, more judges and a visa entry-exit system that must be in place and enforced.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Using typically veiled language, Will opens with the long-disproven notion that illegal immigration is good for the economy. Not only is it flagrantly false, it also incorrectly puts "economy" before a nation's basic integrity.

On that weak basis, Will digs himself in still deeper by rejecting the well-demonstrated "Democratic votes" truism. He fails to recognize the value set of the typical illegal alien.

Will demonstrates a kindergartener's understanding of the word "assimilation," which again is about values -- not the passage of time in invasion of and disrespect for a sovereign nation.

The push for legalization ("reform") is not merely a "distraction." It would benefit greedy businessman campaign donors who want cheap labor but would harm the rest of the country and everyone knows it which is why the Republicans rightly will not be forgiven for it if they persist. (That, George Will, will lead to a "small" Party.)

It is an open secret Obama systematically cooks net immigration numbers. Apparently it remains an utter secret for George Will. Either that or he knowingly is implying Obama is being faithful to his constitutional duty to enforce immigration law when he spectacularly is not.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

And Will should know that the nation should not have to compromise immigration-law enforcement in the first place, in the form of going along with legalization (amnesty, euphemistically known as "reform") -- "future president" or not. Will should know that it is the President's constitutional duty period.

Such a compromise is inconsistent with itself and ultimately is self-defeating: legalization is not a complement to enforcement. It is the very opposite of enforcement. Legalization (amnesty, or "reform") is nothing less than a formal refusal to enforce U.S. immigration law. The one cancels out the other.

"Immigration is the entrepreneurial act of taking the risk..."

And ILLEGAL immigration is an act of hostility toward a nation's sovereignty, its constitution, and its citizenry. The oft-repeated "illegal aliens are the ultimate U.S. citizens, just not on paper," and, "they're all valedictorians" (Dreamers), is malarkey, and is getting old.

Again, George Will, it is about VALUES, a point you miss altogether.

And your "limiting immigration is defeatism" argument is a bunch of hot air and nothing more.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Once again the pro immigration advocates blur the line between legal and illegal immigration.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Though I've often disagreed with George Will, I've always respected his intellect.

Many Tea-Party Republicans will reject this well thought out column on a few simple points:

1. Immigration Reform will legitimize the invasion of people whose first language is Spanish.

2. George Will is part of the GOP Establishment, which is viewed as being integral and complicit to the big problems facing the nation, particularly the deficit and debt.

3. Will also turns off a lot of people because he uses big words, and there is a kind of anti-intellectualist vein on the right: People who appear to be smarter than you simply can't be trusted, to many. By his words, Will is one of the reviled "Elitists".

Beyond those issues - which are enough to render Will's opinion as worthless - I think he makes really good points that Republicans should heed, but as Democrat I can rest assured George Will's opinion will amount to almost no impact among Republicans.

Owen
Heber City, UT

"Will demonstrates a kindergartener's understanding ..." Love this. As long as conservatives keep dismissing their most respected thinkers in the name of (racial?) purity , their ranks will continue to shrink. "Small" will be too large an adjective to describe a non-existent political party. It seems strange that conservatives complain that immigration bolsters Democratic voting roles, but fail to see that their anti-immigrant rhetoric drives naturally conservative Asian, Middle Eastern and Hispanic voters into the Democratic Party.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Nice points by George but they'll fall on mute ears. Sadly, the Republican party is broken and their infighting has handed over the keys of our goverment to the Democrats. Until they flush themselves of the radical Tea Partiers they'll be a ruderless ship at sea.

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

To "Owen" in Heber City who talks about "anti-immigrant rhetoric" from conservatives, I ask, "What anti-immigrant rhetoric?"

The only "anti" rhetoric I've ever seen from conservatives regarding immigration is directed toward the problem of **illegal** immigration. You know? The sort that any law-abiding person should be against.

There may be "anti-immigrant rhetoric" of a general sort from some conservatives, but I've never seen it. Consequently, it appears to me that you are simply making a broad brush (as in, bigoted) indictment that isn't based in fact.

Can you offer us some examples and explain why they should be considered indicative of conservatives in general?

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

There is only one reason that Democrats want immigration reform: They view illegal immigrants as Democrat voters. Does anyone really believe that the Democrats would support this if they expected illegal aliens to become Republicans?

Mr. Will is a brilliant man, but this is one example where his opinion and the facts are at variance.

RRB
SLC, UT

With 20 million people still looking for full time work, I think it's the Democrats that will pay this election.

We are talking about adding the populations of Utah, Nevada, Montana, Wyoming and Idaho to our country. All bypassed our laws, and came here illegally, ignoring our quotas, and replacing the American worker. I can't believe the Democrats approve of this.

Owen
Heber City, UT

@ samhill, I can't tell if you're serious, but one example would be to search an Ann Coulter story from the last few days where she specifically talks about the problems with LEGAL immigration. I think she identifies herself as conservative even in her most recent book title. i think millions of books she's sold indicate that more than "some" conservatives are engaged in this conversation in a less than constructive way. For the Republican Party anyway. Unless Ann, Rush, Levin, etc., are somehow not reflective of their fans on this subject.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

@Owen

"As long as conservatives keep dismissing their most respected thinkers in the name of (racial?) purity..."

Typical, false insinuation of racism against persons who believe in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law. No one -- except you, Owen -- has said anything about race.

Rather, it is about respect for this nation and its sovereignty and laws. "Illegal" is not a race; it is a CRIME.

And true Conservatives can think for themselves, thank you very much.

LGJHERE
LOS ANGELES/USA, CA

Let’s face it, this immigration thing is a 20th century issue that has slopped over into the 21st century. The time has come to finally resolve it in an intelligent fashion, as three-fourths of Americans favor and Obama confronts head-on. A new award-winning worldwide book/ebook by ex-Salt Laker Lance Johnson that helps explain the role, struggles, and contributions of immigrants and minorities is "What Foreigners Need To Know About America From A To Z: How to Understand Crazy American Culture, People, Government, Business, Language and More.” It paints a revealing picture of America for anyone who will benefit from a better understanding. Endorsed by ambassadors, educators, and editors, it also informs those who want to learn more about the last remaining superpower and how we compare to other nations on many issues.
They come to improve their lives and create a foundation of success for their children to build upon, as did the author’s grandparents when they landed at Ellis Island in 1899 after losing 2 children to disease on a cramped cattle car-like sailing from Europe to the Land of Opportunity then on to Zion.

SLars
Provo, UT

LGJHERE, you have been plugging the book for a couple of years now. How do you get away with spamming so many sites?

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

What is the GOP? The elected officials? George Will? The Chamber? The Marriott chain?
How about the delegates from around the nation?
Read the platform to know the GOP position on legalization, interior enforcement, border security...
The GOP officially respects immigrants who come here legally to work. Illegal aliens? Not so much.
George Will represents the elites, not the GOP.

Yorkshire
City, Ut

"The Economist tartly notes, "a mass murder committed by mostly Saudi terrorists resulted in an almost limitless amount of money being made available for the deportation of Mexican house-painters."

Oh thats a good one.

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