People leaving the workforce that were only there for insurance are not causing
job loss. Maybe we need a single payer system that would free the concept of
employment from health care provision entirely. That would free employers and
employees up from servitude due to health insurance.
Conservatives tout having a stay at home parent (well, usually a mom when they
advocate it), and this would allow more families to get by with one working
parent...but they consider that a bad thing. People in their lower
60s who have declining health and aren't yet old enough for Medicare, some
of them have to work just to afford their diabetes medication or whatever they
need...conservatives consider this a good thing. Can you imagine
what the GOP reaction would be if Obama's healthcare bill was said to need
2 million more people to enter the workforce (or 2 million more jobs added,
perhaps some people would need second jobs) to get by? Would that be considered
a good thing because it's the reverse of this effect they call harmful?
So Charles did get the memo that Obamacare is the message in 2014.Small problem Charles. Your rant here is about a prediction at best, a
benefit to those who do choose the option, and lastly it's about a very,
very small number.This contrasted to the successes of the ACA that
are starting to rapidly pile up. The rant will have the desired
effect of the believers in 2014, but the effect on independents is yet to be
seen, and by 2016 it well be a major negative for the Republicans.
So easy to see. Even simple minded (sarcastic) republicans could see it coming 5
years ago. So hard for enlightened (sarcastic) Obama worshippers to
see and understand even as it is happening live before our eyes.This
issue is so plain and simple I actually think writing on this is a waste of
Charles superior intellect, but he writes of politics and it is the issue of the
Krauthammer as usual hits the mark. Senator P also hit the mark when she
declared that we needed to pass the so called 'Affordable Health Care
Act'(Obamacare) in order to know what it contained. Now we know - it was/is
a disaster. We now have art time work in full bloom; 50+ employees losing their
long held jobs who now send resume after resume hoping to be re-employed. Mitt
Romney had it right! The AHCA is a heavy burden TAX on the American people that
needs to be repealed.
So a man that "hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in
the evening, criticize after diner," is now considered unproductive and
living of other labor? This complete misrepresentation of marx illustrates why
the far right is so afraid of him. They are tariffed of those that would dare
work outside the corporate structure and have control over their own labor. It
is also why they are deliberately misrepresenting the comments of the democrats.
this is not about forcing others to subsidize your health its about having
access to the resources to affordable healthcare so you can step out from the
thumb of corporate america and actually pursue the American dream something we
have been denied to long.
Well, as the first three comments to Mr. Krauthammer's excellent treatise
on some of the perfectly predictable (and predicted) downsides to Obamacare
amply demonstrate, there is none so blind as he who will not see.Little wonder such absurdities are possible when so many are able to deceive
themselves so thoroughly.If nothing else, hope it helps the rest of
us prepare for the inevitable day when the house of cards being constructed by
these fairy-tale believers comes crashing down on us all.
The president's actions around the ACA implementation are reminiscent of
someone tumbling down a hill trying to regain his balance and grabbing for
anything in sight. The act is not affordable nor does it provide universal
health care. It is riddled with faults, deception and smothered in political
allowances for his party favorites. Now he blames those he excluded from the
health care reform process. Taken together, they are acts of desperation and
certainly inappropriate for a US president.
Kraftyhammer aways sings the same tune. He never saw a free trade
deal he didn't like that has been sending jobs overseas for 20 years
though. Bring those jobs back and we'd have many more jobs than people.I've known 3 people that retired early because they can now get
health insurance on the "free" market that used to tell them they were
uninsurable unless they continued to work for a large corporation.
So this is what is meant by helping small business, making sure that no small
business can ever get bigger than 49 employees. Government assuring that small
businesses must remain small. That isn't the kind of help that
How much of this mess is being caused by employers and others who are so anxious
to see ACA fail that they will sacrifice their workers and other Americans to
their cause of extremist greed?
@samhillWhile my eyesight is pretty bad, I am sure you all would destroy
Obama if he proposed something that left Americans so poorly off that they
needed to take on 2 million more jobs just to get by due to medical expenses.
Instead it's Republicans who proposed that (the repeal of Obamacare).
So as I've been predicting for months, ever since Obama delayed the
employer mandate from 2013 to 2014, he's now delayed it by presidential
fiat until after the 2014 election. It wouldn't do for tens of millions to
learn they were going to lose the doctors and medical plans they liked, despite
Obama lies to the contrary, just before this fall's election!Of
course Obama has no authority to actually DO this! Unfortunately it
wouldn't help the Republicans to insist that he actually FOLLOW the law and
cause those tens of millions of Americans to lose their current insurance in
2015. Why the Republicans haven't gone to court to stop the avalanche of
executive orders that violate the law is beyond me.Well Nancy, you
passed the law so we could find out what's in it, and it's more
unemployment and less affordable insurance - and yes, it has the equivalent of
death panels. I'm sure we'll learn lots more about it in the future!
Predictable are anti administration spins making this guy a lot of money.
Six million more people insured under the ACA. That is amazing and no matter
the what the naysayers complain about, those six million are lucky to have
health care now! Just try taking it away.......then you'll see a disaster!
Utefan60:Since most of those six million people (BTW: I think your
estimates are way too high) already had insurance they liked before the ACA took
it away from them...then you are right...we are seeing a disaster!The ones who were lucky enough to navigate through the bureaucratic maze of
the Obamacare website; pay much more for their insurance than they did before;
have higher deductables; be willing to switch doctors in many cases; and sign up
for coverage for things they will never use; now have insurance once again.The several million more people who also lost their insurance, but still
haven't successfully gone through the gauntlet yet, are still waiting to
find out if they have any coverage.If all that is progress in your
book, then I guess you are happy. I'm sure you can find several people that
have actually been helped by this law, but for every one of those there are at
several others who have been hurt by it.