Published: Friday, Feb. 14 2014 10:35 p.m. MST
I don't think there's any question that some people have addictive
personalities. Some people drink one beer, and they're
alcoholics. Or play a video game for a couple of hours, and then this activity
becomes a problem, disrupting family time, even causing marital problems. Some
people are thrill-seekers, become "addicted" to base jumping, or sky
diving, or surfing big waves, or whatever. I've known people
who've been fired from their jobs because they called in sick too many
times to go surfing. And yet, somehow, we don't have organizations and
churches and sincere individuals lining up to ban surfing.One
government phrase that will remain as useful wisdom for a broad range of life
experiences for generations is "Your Mileage May Vary".
10CC; Pornography addiction is not just a problem that befalls those
with "addictive personalities." It is a problem for those with
"addictive behavior" and "addictive hormonal stimulation." Ask
a smoker who has no intention of quitting, and he will say, "I can stop
anytime I want to." But he doesn't want to, because he loves his
addiction. Ask someone who loves his pornography addiction, and he will tell
you he looks at pornography for recreation, and could easily give it up if he
didn't enjoy it so much. So much, in fact, that he chooses to continue it
while his marriage falls apart, and he loses his job, and he loses his
relationship to his children. Not addictive? Ha! I'm guessing
we have researchers behind this study with a pornography problem of their own.
Ask those who have been there and escaped it. They will tell it like it is.
The religious group in Utah will not like this. They claim it is
addictive. I trust science
Kudos to the DN for presenting research that challenges their favored position
on an issue. I'm glad they are presenting both sides here. I am
a free-thinking progressive but on this issue, I stand with my conservative and
religious friends. It matters little if such a thing as pornography
"addiction" exists. The truth is that pornography, generally speaking,
is harmful to those who consume it, and those who participate in it (as actors).
Even though I personally would not label it a "sin", I can not imagine a
scenario in which a person who watches porn is motivated by noble intentions. We
can find pleasure in more worthwhile activities such as cultivating mindfulness,
compassion, loving-kindness, etc. Instead of watching porn for 30 minutes a day,
call a friend in need. Go for a hike or a run. Water your plants. Read
scriptures. Meditate. Write in a gratitude journal. I guarantee any of this
activities will do more to improve your long-term happiness that porn ever
could. Furthermore, each of these activities promote connection with others,
connection with nature, or connection with God. These are ends worth perusing.
Porn is so highly destructive and it contributes to crime. FBI statistics show
that in 80% of cases of violent sex crimes, they find porn either at the scene
or at the home of the offenders. More than 50% of all divorces are because one
spouse uses porn. It victimizes everyone involved in it.
One key part of the research being cited is this statement not mentioned by the
Deseret News article, “We need better methods to help people who struggle
with the high frequency use of visual sexual stimuli, without pathologizing them
or their use thereof..." The study is receiving a lot of publicity because
of its headline that porn addiction isn't real but the author merely
renames it as "struggle with the high frequency use of visual sexual
stimuli." That seems to be the only valid point of the research article.The research article discredits itself by not acknowledging the real
negative consequences of porn use. Apparently the author was very selective in
the research he used for his review article. The negative consequences of porn
use are well-documented (see www.poweroverpornography.com/ consequences for a
list of consequences and their references). It's unfortunate that the
headline of this study and its poorly drawn conclusions are receiving so much
publicity. Porn addiction, whatever you want to call it, is real and is ruining
the lives of viewers and their families.
I highly recommend a book by Sally Satel (a psychiatrist who specializes in
addiction) and Scott Lilienfeld, Brainwashed: The Seductive Appeal of Mindless
Neuroscience. This book exposes some of the myths about brain scans and
neuroscientific findings, including the fact that just because someone's
brain lights up when viewing something, it doesn't mean that we can draw
conclusions about addiction. Even the claims of drug addiction and brain scans
are highly controversial and although popular, have very little scientific
evidence and even less so for pornography addiction.
The Sydney study said that 47% of respondents watched porn from 30 minutes to 3
hours every day..seriously. I'm sorry that would be nearly impossible to
do and at the same time carry on any kind of a normal life. Yet they want you
to believe that half of the population behaves like this.I'm
sorry I laughed out loud when the one woman said her marriage was destroyed by
her husbands porn addiction, that caused him to objectify women. Hey..look
around you. The world objectifies women. Sometimes/many times sexually.
Sometimes women are raised to be the objects of a mans authority (religion).
Females are the objects of gender roles. The list goes on and on.
I don't say any of this to belittle the trouble some people
have in their lives. I simply think a lot of it is as Holden Caulfield would
say, is phony .
See Jay Evensen, Feb 13, 2014. He is right. Let us giggle and mock
as anyone dares call porn an addiction, as people struggle (and fail) to stay
away from it, and leave their spouses and children for it. It is
just pictures, right? People willingly choose to lose their families and jobs
for this? Any sensible person can see otherwise. Porn clearly
damages the ability to choose, and there is nothing funny about it.
I'm also glad to see that the DN is willing to broaden their coverage on
this topic. One of my biggest gripes about porn is the black/white stance that
ignores some realities, such as what qualifies as "porn" in the first
place. Lingerie ads? Topless selfies? Art in museums? In our quest
for modesty we have turned the naked human form into something taboo, which is
where pornography gets its foothold. Modesty isn't about how much skin is
showing but about the intent of the person. Just look at women's sports
teams at BYU and you can see that swimmers, runners and VB players etc are
showing a lot more skin than the Honor Code allows. If the naked
form is something to be hidden then people will be titillated by its exposure,
intended or not. Ideally we would have a mature society that wasn't alarmed
by the naked form but trained the brain that one's erotic responses were
only connected to their spouse. Please note the 30 minute time frame
used in the study. Your average guy looking at erotic material will have
finished his business before then and have moved on.
Linus said: "I'm guessing we have researchers behind this study with a
pornography problem of their own."Yup-- purveyors and proponents
of porn always tell on themselves.....
- Chris B. - Three things:1)I hate byu too, but if you
trust science then you realize this is hocus pocus.2) Everything you
read on the internet isn't exactly true!3) Admitting you have a
problem is the first step to recovery!! "Trust science" is just an
Addiction is defined by continued use of something despite adverse effects. How
often do we hear of people being fired from their job because of compulsory use
of porn while on the the job? Or people who lose their marriages, because they
simply can't stop using porn? His basis for his research is to
debunk the "large, lucrative industry [that's] promised treatments for
pornography addiction". Really!?! Porn is a multibillion dollar industry.
The Anti-porn industry is orders of magnitued smaller and much less lucrative.
In looking at David Ley's website, he's a clinical
psychologist who appears to have built a practice around normalizing much of
what society would term as deviant sexual behavior. Consistent with his apparent
inability to assess who has what bias and incentives, it's funny how this
"research" only confirms his prior beliefs and helps expand his clinical
practice, as well as gets him a good amount of public attention.His website
only provides links to news stations that have covered his "research" or
books that he's written. Where's his list of prior peer reviewed
articles? This isn't science.
@ Chris BAnd I will choose to believe the results that i have seen
firsthand from family members that have gotten involved with pornography. The
endless lies, dropping out of school, lost jobs, marrital strife, infediltiy,
divorce and families torn apart. Pornogrpahy is destructive and that is a fact
no matter how you or "science" puts lipstick on that big, ugly pig
I can only say that pornography has led to a job loss with a good company,
severely damaged my wifes self esteem, isolated me from my kids, lots of lost
productive time while looking at porn and going to 12 step meetings, and in
general destroying my self confidence. I strongly disagree with this study
based on my own experience. I met about 250 other men in my meetings that would
agree with me.
Ridculous who funded this study?and Chris many studies show it is
addicitve. This study is the complete minority kind of like only one guy out of
step in a marching band claiming he is the only one in step and everyone else is
This research is debatable. Porn is an addiction in the same spectrum as video
games. It is not a physical substance like drugs, alcohol...it is a visual
substance. In fact, it is more potent than any physical substance. I have
personal experience of drinking and smoking in high school, yet I can not
remember a great deal about it nor have the desire to try again. However, after
watching something at a friends at the age of 12, the images come back readily
and if I do not move on to something else, the desire to watch porn again is
formed. I have to fight that impulse every time. That is called an addiction.
@10CC:"I don't think there's any question that some people
have addictive personalities."I'll tell you where the real
addition is... the people who make porn. Who are mostly the female gender."I've known people who've been fired from their jobs
because they called in sick too many times to go surfing."You do
surfing in Bountiful, Utah?"And yet, somehow, we don't have
organizations and churches and sincere individuals lining up to ban
surfing."Perhaps that's because the leaders of the
organizations and churches and sincere individuals like surfing. It's easy
to criticize activities you don't like and tough to criticize activities
that you like.
Sex is addicting so therefore porn is addicting. If it completely controls
your life, then it is a bad thing.
Studies are about as reliable as the weather forecast.
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