Published: Friday, Feb. 14 2014 12:00 a.m. MST
Setting aside this article's slew of horrendous factual inaccuracies, the
letter writer seems to unintentionally make a case for complete amnesty of
undocumented workers. Were undocumented immigrants given a pathway
to citizenship they would no longer be subject to poor treatment and low wages
at the hands of their employers. Indeed, the companies that currently hire them
would be forced to actually pay their workers in accordance with our laws,
etc... - no more "under-the-table" employees. Then, perhaps the letter
writer's fictitious "coming-of-age" job market for teens would come
back to life b/c those teenagers would be able to compete w/ immigrants since
wages would be comparable.
It is disgusting the way the true and holy principle of Compassion is being
hijacked, perverted and used as a masquerade for pure, unadulterated GREED. If it really were about compassion, businessmen wouldn't be doing
all in their power to circumvent paying their fellow American the wage he justly
has earned and deserves. Instead they would have a little
compassion for the American citizen right under their noses who do suffer
greatly in a wide variety of ways as a result of illegal immigration and illegal
employment of illegal aliens. Nor is there true compassion in
rewarding dishonesty and illegality.
Its hypocritical that liberals embrace and support illegal immigrants being here
and being able to take law abiding Americans' jobs but then get upset if a
company sends jobs overseas. In either case, the result is jobs moving from
Americans to others. There is no difference. Except for the fact one is
illegal and one is notEnforce the laws and don't reward illegal
aliens for their illegal decisions
"Unemployment is over 10 perecent" have you ever heard the saying that
if you need to lie to make your point maybe you don't have one to make?
Liberal leaders don't acknowledge those who don't have jobs due to
illegal aliens. The income inequality, they persist in talking about and claim
they want to fix, is made worse by illegal labor taking jobs at substandard
wages undercutting citizens ability to work. I suspect the liberal
masses are really ignorant of the damage their policies heap on citizens
(themselves and their children), and the leaders don't care because they
know it is the big businesses that fund their campaigns. The average
citizen is not a person to democrat leaders, they are just dehumanized votes,
and they feel the same way about illegals. The deomcrats'
'compassion' is just a ruse, totally fake, to get reelected.
This job thing is a ruse and the illegality issue largely an excuse. Both are
cover for deeper motives. I wonder what those might be.
I generally eschew simple answers but this is one case where the harder you look
the more simple the answer is. It seems there are only two answers.
First; Americans are too lazy to do manual labor and therefore we need to
import folks who will, and lucky us they will do the work for cheap. Second the wages are so cheap that you can't live on them therefore
Americans won't take back breaking work for wages that don't provide a
life. Regardless of how you combine the problems either Americans
are lazy or wages are too low to attract Americans. You choose
conservatives. Personally I fall on the side of if wages were
livable you would see a lot more American citizens framing houses.
@ajaxYou are right and the problem is they are far more transparent
then they woudl like to think. At the same time they want a severe crackdown on
illegal immigration they are also fighting to do away with welfare and the
minimum wage. Its not to hard to see through the claims of compassion.
The forces of anarchy have brought about a situation in which there is no
enforcement of a uniform code of legal residency. We are surrounded by tens of
millions of those who have illegally entered, and do continue to work, drive,
trade and receive benefits, at the expense of legal residents, and Congress
seems to want "post ipso facto" laws legitimizing existing illegality.
Isn't that what it amounts to?What is the source of this evil?
The love of money is, we read, the root of ALL evil, including the evil of
rampant lawlessness. Come on Congress! We need a majority of you do something
useful and honest in your lives.
When Alabama drove out the migrant workers a few years ago, the crops rotted in
the fields because "real Americans" wouldn't take the harvesting
jobs. The premise of this letter is a fantasy.
I'd bet you couldn't get a 'real american' to pick lettuce
at twice the wage of those who do.
I'm not anti-immigrant, but I have to state the obvious.Currently teenagers are the ones affected (because they traditionally did the
"jobs Americans won't do"). Jobs now reserved for immigrants. So
teenagers are having a hard time finding a job at a decent wage (because other
people will do the same jobs for less).People who came to America
illegally to do the jobs Americans won't do rather than starve... Naturally
will stay in the shadows and do those jobs. They were desperate, and willing to
take the jobs Americans won't do. But their children (who are educated in
American Schools, grew up watching MTV, shopping the malls, and living the
American lifestyle)... will they be willing to do the jobs Americans won't
do? I don't think so.They will be competing for the jobs
Americans WANT to do.The children will be our engineers, layers,
managers, politicians, etc. That's OK. They are citizens. But that
generation will drive down the wage of SKILLED workers (not McDonalds workers).
And that generation's population will be at least double todays (if each
couple has 2 children).
Bubble: "...have you ever heard the saying that if you need to lie to make
your point maybe you don't have one to make?"I don't
believe that saying unemployment is over 10% is a lie. I guess it depends on
your definition of "unemployed".If you define it as the
number of people who would start working tomorrow if a job became available that
matched their skills, then it is definitely over 10%.If you define
it as that number published each month by the government that doesn't
include those who no longer qualify for unemployment insurance or those who have
given up hope, then you can say it is under 10%.
@hutterite,I'll glady watch my lettuce(and fast food and hotel)
prices increase while we watch education, healthcare, and a variety of other
costs decrease. Illegal immigrants should go back to their country and show
they are law abiding people.Where are your similar feelings when
jobs are sent because others are willing to do the work for a quarter of the
price and "real americans" wont do it for twice the wages of those in
other countries? Flip, flop, flip, flop
The problem with immigration reform is that few have any solution, left or
right. Should we start with lawbreakers, such as employers who skirt the law for
cheap labor? Who does it benefit to ignore the immigration laws for the past 35
plus years? How will name calling Chris B enforce the law on 11 million plus
immigrants and will he enforce it on all nationalities or just one particular
segment? Will he pass laws to profile legal citizens just because they resemble
the undocumented? Remember that employed immigrants, legal or illegal, pay
taxes, social security, and do contribute so think of this when you come up with
your great solutions. If wages for the middle class keep getting suppressed
we'll all be immigrating to Canada, Australia, or Europe to send funds back
to our families.
ugottabkidnRe: "Remember that employed immigrants, legal or illegal,
pay taxes, social security"...How can an ILLEGAL immigrant pay
taxes (you need a SS# to pay taxes). How can they pay Social Security taxes (you
need a SS# to pay social security taxes). You need a SS# to get insurance. You
need a SS# to register for school....How do you do all these things
without a SS#??You have to adopt one (from the black market). And
that is illegal to the max. It's not a victimless crime (like coming here
illegally). That... is a REAL crime (punishable by time in prison IF you're
a US Citizen).
"Why not some compassion for American workers who've been displaced by
illegal labor..."There is compassion for the American worker put
out of work by an illegal worker... It's call 'unemployment
benefits.' The Unemployed American can get up to 115 months (over two
years) of benefits while they sit home watching the illegal do the work.
@joethe number "the government publishes" is he same official
unemployment number we have used since they stared recording unemployment, to
claim other numbers is at best suspect.
intervention:You mean that number that was deliberately manipulated
to show a dramatic drop in unemployment a month before the last election to help
Obama win back the presidency?Just like the latest Obamacare
enrollee numbers coming out of this administration, we can't trust any
number reported by Washington these days.
intervention,RE: "the number the government publishes is he same
official unemployment number we have used since they stared recording
unemployment"...Truth is... the calculation has changed 3 times
in the last 30 years.In 1994, the Bureau of Labor Statistics
redefined "the workforce" to include only that small percentage of the
discouraged who had been seeking work for less than a year.USA Today
(12/28/10)"Citing what it calls "an unprecedented rise" in
long-term unemployment, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), beginning
Saturday, will raise from two years to five years the upper limit on how long
someone can be listed as having been jobless".===When unemployment is measured according to the formula that was used when
President Bill Clinton took office, it is actually around 20%. ===formula aside.Google "Unemployment Rate -
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data"...The graph is very revealing.
Compare the Obama years with the rest of the graph... there's no denying
it's not good.
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