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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 12 2014 12:00 p.m. MST

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TilleySue
South Weber, UT

Small victory, but hopefully it will lead to a greater one. My children will not be taking these tests unless I have access to them, maybe not even then....

birder
Salt Lake City, UT

I can hardly wait to have my salary partially based on test scores. It sounds so good except to those who work with children who can be really flaky at taking tests, even if they have been taught the material. Our Legislature and State School Board have spent too much time in the Ivory Tower.

forget-me-not
West Valley City, UT

As a retired teacher and program director, I am amazed if any quality educator would bother to administer a test that parents feel the need to scrutinize before it is administered to their children. The validity of the test would be compromised to the point of being useless. Are some parents convinced their children will be brainwashed or otherwise corrupted by taking a test developed within our own state?

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

As a teacher I never looked at the test only the administration booklet before giving the standardized tests required by the government. Now that the tests are the most unstandardized tests in the history of K-12 tests I do think it much less likely someone could find a way to cheat the system without anyone noticing. Still giving the tests to everybody to review seems unethical especially if these tests actually were supposed to measure actual learning.

Frankly, the whole bit of going to computer adaptive testing was a foolish thing to do in the first place since the tests cannot be compared, lack validity and waste valuable classroom time to administer. When creating such a test, they are written to change complexity based on language and vocabulary. A child can fully demonstrate mastery of a concept on-grade level but will be unable to access it simply because they do not have a strong enough grasp of the English language. Do we want tests that may not measure what it is we are specifically trying to measure? That is what SAGE is.

Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

I love how our legislature spends its time!

I have a few ideas too.

How about this one: we could pass a law that would require any Utah politician to take an IQ test before they run for office. But only if their spouses, or campaign managers (if single or a part of an unoffical same-sex marriage) get to review the questions first.

Come on people! Get busy! Make a real difference!

souptwins
Lindon, UT

There are way too many ways the tests would be invalidated. If that happens, we've wasted a whole lot of money on nothing. I've seen parents who would do anything so their child could have an advantage and this would be no different. Also-- basing a teacher's salary on test results is like paying your doctor less because you are overweight and develop heart disease. Too many factors go into a child's performance that are completely unrelated to teaching. Such a bad idea and is nothing more than parents' distrust and need for total control.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

So parents can see what their kids will be tested on, but teachers, who are going to be graded and judged by this test cannot see what their students will be tested on. Interesting concept.

birder
Salt Lake City, UT

I still think that anyone who is involved in education policy-making should be required to put in a stint in a public school classroom - say a couple of weeks, at least. They should have to plan, handle all of the discipline, give tests, wade through our ridiculous math Common Core materials, see how fun it is to keep 24 computers all working without help - the whole nine yards. They can come and try teaching my class, which is stacked with two elementary grade levels and behavior problems galore. Then let's judge their effectiveness and pay them accordingly. Oh, I forgot to mention my student that comes 2-3 hours late every day, if at all. But it will be my fault when he fails the SAGE test.

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