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Published: Monday, Feb. 10 2014 9:15 p.m. MST

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Sal
Provo, UT

Why not have a one-time tax for all of us to pay to fund the bullet-proof windshields? I would gladly pay for that.

across the sea
Topeno, Finland

The protection in the vehicles is an item that is/has been neglected ..and should not be. There should be a comprehensive new policy on this beginning from judicial procedures of an automatic ATTEMPTED MURDER charge for anyone who even points a gun at an officer on duty, or assists in the process!
What the patrol car needs is windshield driver's side bulletproofing AND the driver's side door also! Why the door? Because it gives the officer protection and room to protect actively.
If this would be part of national standard the big automakers would soon be able to cut the price down to an acceptable figure! Good luck! You are doing what should have been done YEARS ago!

manuretruck
St. George, UT

I feel for this lady, but I don't think she fully understands that bullet"proof" glass is not bullet"proof" in all situations. At best it can be called bullet-resistant. The category of glass they would be forced to put on these cars can and does fail, especially against high-caliber firearms.

The category of glass necessary to protect against all calibers is extremely expensive, and most importantly, THICK and HEAVY, and requires extensive custom re-working of the vehicle. The only glass they would be able to get that wouldn't impact the performance of the vehicles would only protected against low-caliber handguns.

I think more training would have been suitable. If Wride had kept his eyes on the truck, only glancing away very shortly when necessary, he would have easily seen the driver moving about in an disturbing way and opening the rear window.

I think that many Utah patrol officers, after years go by where nothing severe happens, get too comfortable with traffic stops and let basic situational-awareness escape them.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

Praise the Lord for his recovery and good fortune. Now, the sociological questions must be asked. This ravaging of the country in general and police officers in particular, is an induced cancer. It would appear that clever politicians and law enforcement personnel in DC have "loosed the dogs of war".

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

Before we spend money to switch to armored patrol vehicles for officers, we would do well to consider all of the costs, as well as the risks of reenforcing the "siege mentality" that permeates many police departments these days -- the feeling that it's "us against them"; the "them" being civilians in general. It presumes that being shot at is a frequent occurrence for the average officer and that they should never leave the car unless absolutely necessary. (To quote Apocalypse Now, "Never get out of the boat.")

In addition to the high costs for buying armored vehicles, which have to be custom built, the additional weight means higher fuel consumption, faster wear and tear on the vehicle, changes in high-speed handling and performance, and a shorter usable life for the vehicle. It would also mean that patrol cars couldn't be resold when they're replaced, as they might fall into the wrong hands, so add that reduced revenue to the cost of buying them. We may, however, have to just pay the extra millions as the cost of living in a state where everyone is encouraged to be armed at all times.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

A question that I have that has never been addressed is, accoring to news reports, Sgt. Wride was hit in the chest. Was he wearing a bullet proof vest? In Sherwood's case it would not have mattered, but in Wride's case, if the reports are correct, was he wearing a vest.

Utefan60
Salt Lake City, UT

I want to thank this officer and his family for the amazing support that they have given our community and State. We need to help them out any way we can.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

There has got to be a way to manufacture balistic glass or Lexan along with ballistic plastic films that could stop or impede most caliber bullets and still be thin enough for a windshield. As for the doors? Kevlar or its equivalent in the door panels. That could be done fairly inexpensively.

BostonLDS
Salt lake City, UT

Maybe we could raise the taxes on guns to pay for the glass for the cop cars, seeing as it's guns we're protecting the officers against... oh and crazy people. Can't really tax crazy people though.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

bullet resistant windshields and side windows sounds good to me. Hard to believe they must cost $15,000. $3,000 seems reasonable.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "BostonLDS" if we are going to enact weird taxes, how about we raise taxes on anybody convicted of violent crimes since they are the ones that commit the crimes. What about knife manufacturers too. When criminals can't get guns they get knives. Do we tax that next. Do we go the route of Japan and require that knives and swords over a few inches in length be registered with the police?

When do stop? Do we turn the police over to the military?

BostonLDS
Salt lake City, UT

"RedShirt" I actually agree with you - my comment was meant to be a satire on the tendency to blame guns for things like this, when in reality it's the people who use guns, not the guns themselves. Apparently tone is hard to portray in comments!

DEW
Sandy, UT

Which is espensive protection on patrol cars or Life Insurance. I rather live than seeing my wife suffer the loss for the rest of her life as well to many other spouses.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Before we spend money to switch to armored patrol vehicles . . . blah, blah."

Cynically grinding a hackneyed, discredited, poorly-reasoned axe, by blaming this incident on the police, on armed good citizens, or on anyone but the vicious criminal perpetrator is childish and particularly distasteful, in view of the sacrifice of the officers involved.

Shame.

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