Comments about ‘LDS Church, other faiths say same-sex marriage opposition not due to bigotry’

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Published: Monday, Feb. 10 2014 8:00 p.m. MST

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A Run
South Jordan, UT

All those people out there who say we are going to lose and know it are probably very right in a legal perspective. The world is slowly turning that way, and even in Utah, where our constitution forbids Same sex marriage, we can see that happening in order to satisfy the National constitution, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Where you are all wrong however, is that as a church we can legally continue to forbid same sex marriage within our buildings, and that will stay true. Go ahead an legalize it, give everyone equality. I realize where you are coming from. But just remember that Legal equality will not always satisfy God's desires, and sometimes the Government is wrong.

Danclrksvll
Erin, TN

The issue here is really about the definition of truth. As an active Latter Day Saint, God and His Word have already pronounced judgment on the gay lifestyle, once and for all time. We are to flee any type of sexual immorality as Christians, period! If we insist on putting on a parade for gay marriage we may as well throw a party for getting drunk, fornication, and adultery, and throw all moral restraint under the bus. No type of sin has a protected status in God's moral universe, and ALL of it leads to spiritual death without Christ atonement.

waikiki_dave
Honolulu, HI

I think I understand Danclrksvll when he says "God has pronounced his judgement on gays and their lifestyle" . . . I don't agree with it, but I understand it. So then, if that is the "definition of truth" to those in opposition to gay people and their expressions of love toward each other, then let them cherish it, believe it and revile in it; but STOP trying to legislate your beliefs on to gay people in their pursuit of a civil right to marriage equality.

No H8 - Celebrate
Salt Lake, UT

"Our nation's uneven but dogged journey toward truer and more meaningful freedoms for our citizens has brought us continually to a deeper understanding of the first three words in our Constitution: we the people. "We the People" have become a broader, more diverse family than once imagined. Justice has often been forged from fires of indignities and prejudices suffered. Our triumphs that celebrate the freedom of choice are hallowed. We have arrived upon another moment in history when We the People becomes more inclusive, and our freedom more perfect."-Judge Arenda Wright Allen

Stormwalker
Cleveland , OH

@Liberty For All
"Hundreds of thousands of people suffering from same-sex attraction have been fixed or improved their condition through psychological counseling, and medical treatments like Depo-Povera (reducing sex drive in males)"

First, I suffered through four marriages - including two temple marriages - while trying to pretend I was straight. I was miserable, the women I was with were miserable. I have been with a wonderful guy for almost five years now, and am happy and content.

Second, over the last few years the groups claiming to "cure" same-sex attraction have one-after-the-other shut down, admitting their "cure" rate was abysmal and most often temporary.

Third, suggesting chemical-castration as a cure is pretty radical. No thanks, I'll take happiness over life as a drone.

MoreMan
San Diego, CA

The church lost ALL credibility with the "polygamy" thing about marriage that the churches 2 original prophets practiced. It's like letting a convicted child molester define "molestation" after "meeting God" in prison.

Crotty Kid
Salt Lake City, UT

It's not necessarily bigotry that drives people to oppose equal rights, but it sure is dogma. Dogma that teaches people not to think for his or herself and not to question authority. How many of these people would automatically change their belief if their authoritative religious figure changed theirs? There are many bigots that oppose equal rights and also there are those that aren't inherently bigots but act as such because of weak minds and a desire to worship and follow authority instead of using love, charity, reason and logic to help them decide.

Also, don't claim that the authority is God just because a religious authority is saying it. With that logic, you can also say that God was speaking through Brigham Young when he said terrible racist things that the church now opposes and clearly states that it was his opinion and not doctrine.

Boy Scout
South Jordan, UT

@moreman, I think that you fail to see what polygamy really was. When the LDS church practiced polygamy, it is not like the FLDS church now. We practiced polygamy because the Lord's law commanded it for a period of time. The people that did practice it, weren't overly thrilled to accept that calling, and they were the people closest to the prophet. There was not Child molestation involved. Polygamy was also to help make certain that all of the women in the church were cared for.

Also I think that you will be surprised that soon after Gay Marriage is legalized, people will begin to want to be able to marry multiple people once again. LGBT stands for Lesbian Gay Bisexual, Transexual. Once LG are satisfied, they will move on to BT.

Utefan60
Salt Lake City, UT

First, there it the higher rates of domestic violence within their relationships. Next, you have the high rate of gay or bisuxuals in positions of authority abusing children.

This statement is so blatantly false. As a mental health care provider, that is not the case statistically, nor in real life. Most abuse and domestic violence comes from heterosexual predators.

Evidence Not Junk Science
Iron, UT

@ David, Standards are set to be sought after, even when they are not always met. This is certainly true in marriage.

Are you suggesting that it's fine to lay out the red carpet inviting convicted felons, drug alcohol and spousal abusers into civil marriage? Then target ONLY same-sex couples with vile anti civil-marriage animus?

You said: "The state should establish and maintain the ideal marriage and family situation for children, even when it is not always attained."

You don’t have a rational or logical argument, it is animus.

Danclrksvll
Erin, TN

Our poor and sick society has reached the point that we call good evil and evil good.Let us stand for traditional marriage and be proud to do so!

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