Very misleading and uninformed article. What defines a box office smash???Disney HAS had animated movie successes very recently, even if some have
been from 'acquired' or 'partnered' properties like Pixar.
Ignoring those, "Wreck it Ralph" was quite successful, earning $471
million worldwide, easily clearing it's budget, and it was released less
than 2 years ago. "Tarzan" took in nearly $450 million in 1999. And
"Tangled" should be commended for nearing the $600 million mark just a
few years ago, a definite success for Disney. Most animated films
are considered strong successes if they clear $300-350 million (and subsequently
get a sequel in many cases). Animated movies rarely clear $900 million as
Frozen has done (Lion King was the first, in 1994, which presumably is the last
'box office smash' referred to by the author to originate from
Disney). Only 6 animated films all-time have cleared this mark, and 4 of them
originated from or were distributed by Disney, so the perception that they
aren't having animated 'box office smashes' is highly dubious.
stanfunky,Disney Animation department is a different department than their
Frozen has great music, but the story is pure garbage. The theme is lovely and
the love of sisters is a strong and stirring message, but the way the story
execs arbitrarily destroyed one of the main characters was contrived and
arbitrary. It was not a plot 'twist' it was a lasceration...
Ironically, Disney's best musical and visual efforts are often their worst
in story? And sadly, the story didn't have to go the way it went. Up to the
moment of the twist the story might've been saved and gone a more worthy
Frozen continues the powerful emotive and compassionate element of strong female
roles such as Brave (2012). For two long the male emphasis on competition and
winner at all costs instead of sacrifice and love has been pushed aside,
reflective of what seems to be wrong in today's male power struggle on the
international stage and in the U.S. Congress.
It was good, but I still think Tangled was a much better story.
@stanfunky -- I think you kind of answered your own question. What defines a
"smash"? Well, clearly, it's none of those successful (but not
astronomically successful) films you listed to argue your point. Yes, obviously,
the last "smash" hit, according to the author, is "The Lion
King." No Disney film since then has grossed on that level until
"Frozen."Another issue you seem to be ignoring is the fact
that success is relative to a number of factors. "Most animated films are
considered strong successes if they clear $300-350 million," you say, but
that would certainly not be the case with a film like "Tangled," which
cost $260 million just to make WITHOUT accounting for marketing expenses, which
can sometimes double the total cost of a film. For "The Lion King,"
which had a production budget of $45 million, $300 million would have been
amazing. Not so much for Disney's 3D animated features.You're right, though -- "Tangled" should be commended for earning
$600 million, and it implicitly was, if you were paying attention to the point
of the whole article that, thanks to "Tangled"'s success, Disney
gained the confidence to greenlight another princess movie, and look how that
I remember seeing some marketing and trailers for Frozen, but I must say that I
never felt they jammed it down my throat, and they didn't go over-board to
tell you the entire plot in the trailer itself. They let the movie quality and
word of mouth drive success, and didn't over-advertise. I think they found
a winning pattern on that front as well.
It's my dream to be like Anna
Comparing nominal dollar amounts from different years is irresponsible
journalism. You have to adjust for inflation to have any meaningful
comparison.Finding Nemo's box office gross would be $1.185
billion in 2013 dollars. If Frozen surpasses that it might be worth noting.
Until then, nothing to see here.@Hunam- I was more disappointed by
the ending. "Oh hey, I could have fixed everything magically at the flick of
a wrist long ago, if I had just thought of the word 'love'! Good thing
I had that convenient deus ex machina on hand, because we're at the 100
When we think animated Disney, we think "Princess" "romantic
love" "Happily ever after". Had Anna taken her sister's words
at face value and walked away, they never would have figured out true love
doesn't have to be romantic. True love is what you do for someone without
getting anything in return (Paraphrasing Olaf).Disney did a great job of showing
real love, maybe not the textbook definition of true love.
Depending how technical you want to get, you can argue the pixar vs disney
animation aspect of this. I don't think it's really fair to eliminate
pixar from this conversation, because disney would have likely produced more by
themselves had they not acquired pixar. Also, one could argue that the lion
king was and original story, and would in that case hold that record of frozen.
What I love most about Frozen is what Momastery blogger Glennon pointed out:
that Elsa moved from trapped emotionally and afraid, to free at the expense of
others, to finally being able to use her gifts to help others. Self awareness
and self control both take time so I thought the end where she figures out how
to restore summer by not being a slave to her fears but instead being free
through love makes perfect sense in a real and human way. In this way Frozen is
a more human and real and beautiful movie than any other Disney princess movie.
I am glad to see Disney continue to have success with wholesome family
entertainment suitable for all audiences. It gives hope that the corporate types
haven't yet stifled all of the creative voices within the organization. The
irony is that when CEO's say things like “break with safe and
predictable formulas and push creative boundaries” we know what they are
in fact saying is "can't we press harder to be the first Lemmings to
jump over the cliff?" If you want to see an example of Disney abandoning its
uniqueness and pressing to be just like other run-of-the-mill-Hollywood-B-Movie
factories, go and suffer through "the Lone Ranger."
Some thoughts -- go to Disney theme parks and you'll find Cars, Toy Story
and other Pixar franchises. Pixar = Disney. So there's been no drop-off.
Next -- Brave was pretty good, as was Tangled. Where is the gap? Frog Prince
maybe?Mostly, why do people keep going to theaters to see movies?
Just don't get it. Patience and the movies go to DVD/Blu-Ray where the in
home experience with pause/rewind/captions, your own chair/couch, toilet, food
and schedule is not only superior, but much, much less expensive.No,
haven't seen Frozen yet. But will.
Mighty Mouse -- Not saying Lone Ranger was great or even good, but then it
wasn't that bad. But then (see my other comment about watching ALL movies
at home) didn't waste $10 on a ticket to see it in a theater.
I decided to catch "Frozen", the other night, after seeing the Movie Box
office revenue reports in the Business section of the LA Times. I thought to
myself it must be word of mouth getting people and their $$$ to it. Think,
"My Fat Greek Wedding". Honestly, the movie characters and the basic
story line hooked me. My take away from the movie was: a well-told story where
the audience connects with the story is most often box-office gold.
"Frozen" came together (pin intended) for me and evidently the
World's Audiences. Keep plugging Disney Animation and good luck with your
next release !!!
@Brent Yes, the home theater experience can be great, but there are some movies
that I make it a point to see on the large screen. Can't beat it in my
opinion.@Hunam, @tabuno,et al I don't ever overly analyze
fiction movie plots. I go to just have fun. And "fun" is definitely what
this movie was for me and obviously for lots of others. I teach teenagers and it
is amazing to me how much reach that this movie has on them. The movie is still
playing in theaters, well, shoot, it seemed like even just after the first
weekend, a large percentage of my students already knew all the lyrics and were
coming to class singing the songs! Never seen anything like it.Though music is my profession, I don't pay much attention to a
movie's soundtrack. Like I said, I don't analyze at movies. I just go
to have fun. But from the very first note of the first song (a choir piece) in
the movie, I was hooked. I was thinking, "Hey! This is good music!"A good, fun show. That's all it was. Entertainment. What we need.
The movie "Frozen" was absolutely delightful. I loved it. The music was
wonderful and I love the story. I would go and see it again. Thanks Disney -
another good one.