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Published: Monday, Feb. 10 2014 9:00 p.m. MST

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Idaho Falls, ID

Utah did had a top 10 recruiting class....in the pac 12!

Malad City, ID

The only good in the star system is how many of these prospectively good athletes are called stars in their senior season.

Las Vegas Aggie
Logan, Utah

This is all nice but who are the Aggies top five signees?

El Chango Supremo
Rexburg, ID

Chris B is right, although 5 stars don't always pan out, they do succeed at a statistically higher rate than 4 star recruits... and 4 star recruits succeed at a higher rate than 3 star recruits, etc.

There are always exceptions of course, Dennis Pitta & Eric Weddle are two exceptions. But, they are exceptions, not the norm.

The star rating system isn't perfect, but it is pretty good.

Highland, UT

chris b is right that higher stars increase the probability of a kid being better but the great flaw in his argument is that utah will almost never get a 5 star athlete, they never have gotten one even once, and gets very few 4 stars. Ditto for BYU although BYU has gotten 5 star kids and gets 4 star kids more often than utah does, LDS affiliation will do that for you.

So the vast majority of kids both schools get are 3 star, or lower, and that is a far more subjective class of kids than the far less abundant 5 star and 4 stars.

If the vast majority of recruits are rated 2 star or 3 star then there is a far wider spread of ability within the kids in those groups. That means one school could sign ten 3 stars and five 2 stars while the other could sign eight 3 stars and seven 2 stars and there really is no difference in them. In fact it wouldn't be a bit of a surprise if the school that signed less 3 stars wound up with a better group of players in the end.


"utah will almost never get a 5 star athlete, they never have gotten one even once, and gets very few 4 stars. Ditto for BYU although BYU has gotten 5 star kids and gets 4 star kids more often than utah does"

Fact check: last ten recruiting classes (tenure of Mendenhall/Whittingham), per Rivals
BYU-13 4 star, 0 5 star
Utah- 18 4 star, 1 5 star

Per Scout
BYU- 21 4 star, 1 5 star
Utah- 18 4 star, 2 5 star

Per 24/7 since 2011 (when they started rating)
BYU- 2 4 star, 0 5 star
Utah- 9 4 star, 0 5 star

So that's interesting.

Cheyenne, WY

I recommend you recheck your information
247sports has ratings post for over a decade. and have more 4 star recruits than what you stated since 2011 (2 in 1 year alone)
ESPN is another source that is good.


BeSmart, I recommend your recheck your own. They list composite ratings (averages of scores acquired from the other services), and they have their own ratings. Some of each school's recruits make a "composite" 4 star listing for them, but what I posted as THEIR ratings is accurate.

Cheyenne, WY

@ StGtoSLC
"The 247Composite rating is a proprietary algorithm that compiles prospect "rankings" and "ratings" listed in the public domain by the major media recruiting services. It converts average industry ranks and ratings into a linear composite index. The 247Composite Rating is the industry's most comprehensive and unbiased prospect ranking and is also used to generate 247Sports' Team Recruiting Rankings."
The 247 sports ranking is a composite. It takes rankings from other sites and make them composites. They actually state that they use rivals and scout.com sources. They DO NOT have their own ranking. read about it on their website.


BeSmart, they do in fact use their own rating system. That's why next to every recruit, they have two different ratings: one is their own rating, the other is the composite. If this is incorrect, then please tell me what the other rating on each recruit is.

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