@joeschmoe (Part II on Collinsworth)The other glaring weakness is
Kyle's Assists to TOs ratio... He leads the team in Assists at
4.9 against 2nd place Carlino at 4.7 p/gm But he has the most TOs at 2.8 p/gm to
Carlino's 2.1... Kyle's Ball handling efficiency is 13% worse than
Carlinos. That means for every 10 assists that Kyle gets he will turn the ball
over 1.3 times more than Carlino will for his 10 assists.Don't
get me wrong, I am glad that we have Kyle dressed in blue and I do agree that he
is a net-net positive contributer... Heck, I'll even go as far as agreeing
with you that he helped us stay in the SF game in the first half (although he
could have won the Portland game for us and he didn't... He also could have
iced the games against Iowa State and Oregon with made free throws or a made
lay-in)... Stuff like that happens...However, if he wants to play at
the next level... His shooting, FT percentages and Assist/TO ratios have got to
improve. Sorry, but it's the truth.
@joeschmoeJust reporting the facts... If you reread my
post you will see that I believe he is the best defender on this team which
means he usually gets the toughest defensive assignment (and that includes
players from the #1 through the #4 positions)... I also said that he was an
excellent Rebounder for his size (he averages 8 a game which is what he got
against SF... that puts him at second best on the team behind Austin but ahead
of Mika (However, on a Reb/p/min played basis he is #4 on the team behind
Austin, Sharp, and Mika)... He's second on the team in steals behind
Carlino.His big weaknesses are FT Shooting and Assists vs TOs... He
hit 25% of his FTs against SF and is 59.3% on the year (105-177) He has the
second most attempts behind Haws but has the 3rd worst avg on the team (ahead of
Bartley and Sharp)... A starting Division I PG on a competitive team should hit
between 75% and 80% of his FTA... Had Kyle hit 75% up to this point the Cougs
would have 28 more points... How many "L's would that have turned into
Nevadacoug might be on to something. Rose has some tired starters.
One comment for Kyle. They are gunning for you when you finish at the rim.
The way to stop that is to pull up abruptly at the rim, duck down, wait for the
impact and let them fall over the top of you. They end up getting hurt
instead of you. Next time they think of jumping onto you, they will be thinking
about the last disaster.
This game was really revealing for a number of reasons. Yes, it's good that
BYU won when Haws didn't get at least 30 points. Yes, it was good that
Austin really came thru. Yes, it was good that the Cougs are in 2nd place.However, the biggest thing we saw was that BYU will have to play better in the
WCC tourney than they ever have if they have any chance of winning it, which
will be their only chance chance of going to the NCAAs. Basically, conference
tourney time is about who can prepare better and which coaches can adapt better.
After the teams have played each other twice during the season, they
know each other really well. So, the Cougs can't expect any of their
opponents who they beat during the season to play the way they did while losing.
In previous years, the team has done poorly. Hopefully, this year they will
adapt better.However, playing a couple of home games in the NIT
won't be so bad.
It's nice to be able to win a game against a very good team even when you
aren't playing your best.
I'm a baseball fan. Angels. Sometimes a guy can't buy a hit. Sometimes
the pitcher can't find his slot. But when that happens, the team has to
suck it up. Better defense. Take more walks. But when you win a pitcher's
duel, or rob a home run in the 9th, or when you just can't get it done,
that's sports. You gotta get ready for the next game.Lots of
gnashing of teeth, guys. Dissecting poor shooting (SF had something to do with
that). Not hitting free throws (pressure?). So this time the defense came
through. BYU sucked it up and got 'er done.Excellent, tough
game. Good win. Now they have to get ready for the next game.
I hope the lights are on in the Marriott Center late into the night this week
with the Cougars (all of them) inside practicing free throws.
Nate Austin was the MVP on this game. He played well the entire game, but his
two back-to-back plays down the stretch, at a critical point, were the turning
point. On the defensive end, he drew the charge, negating a San Francisco
bucket. And moments later, he got another offensive rebound, after a Mika miss,
and slammed it home.I also credit Carlino who hit two back-to-back
three's mid-way through the second half when SF was getting some momentum
and had started to pull away.Great game Cougs!
I am EMBARRASSED for the Cougar coaches and players for their horrible free
throw efforts.Good high school teams shoot 65-70%....even 50 years
ago. If today's decent players are expected to make most of their
"open looks" from any range, how can they not make 67% (or more) from
the FREE (no hands near their faces; no threat of a block) throw line? They should also worry about mental mistakes....1 on three defenders while
driving for transition bucket; bigs attempting more than two dribbles deep in
the key; guards pushing the ball recklessly in transition. Where is the
Only in the comments on a BYU story will you read about a player that scored 19
pts as having a "horrible game".Poyman, did you see the
first half when Collinsworth was the only one keeping us in the game on offense?
How about the rebounds he got? Steals? Yes he choked on those last free
throws but other than that he had a solid night.A win is a win no
matter how you get there.Finish Strong!
Really great game in every way but one: free throw shooting. Under 50
percent?? My church team does better than that. Even Haws had a tough night at
the line. Looking back over the decades, this is not your typical BYU team in
that regard. That being said, THANKS Cougars, for another great show.One minor reporting error. The Dons DID lead in the first half, once, at
Congrats Cougs! Didn't play your best game, but still managed to win. Get
some rest and come out ready for next week's road trip!
@idablu, Your 100% right about Carlino, I don't know what coach is
thinking. BYU is definatly better with Carlino on the floor, Halford has one
great game and Rose acts like they can't do without him. Meanwhile Halford
just bricks one 3 pointer after another and never passes one up. I also
don't get why he continues to leave Collinsworth in the game at the end
when the other team is committing intentional fouls.
BYU is working their way into the NCAA tournament, good for them. A win over
Gonzaga would be huge. I look forward to that game, Zags are a little down this
year but still a solid team!
Missed FREE THROWS are killing this team. Maybe they should hire Eddy to teach
some shooting skills from the stripe. Eddy Palubinskas came from Australia to
play at Ricks College about 1969 or '70. He then followed Pete Maravich as
the point guard at LSU and later became a high school coach in Idaho. As a
sportscaster for well over 45 years, I had several conversations with Eddy about
free throw shooting. He set a Guinness book of world record for free throw
shooting that still might stand today. His approach to shooting foul shots is
simple and would help anyone improve. He even tutored "Shaq" and
improved his shooting tremendously. My advice to BYU coaches is to have their
players "study" the shooting technique and then have them go out and
Well, if you can't make free throws, offensive rebounding is a good way to
compensate. Better free-throw shooting, however, would have made the difference
in more than half of BYU's losses so far, and the Santa Clara game on
Thursday showed how good the Cougs can be when they knock 'em down.
Games against San Francisco are always nail-biters. Glad to see that BYU was
able to pull this one out to secure sole possession of 2nd in the WCC.
Keep it up Cougs! You're peaking at a critical time. Everybody seems to be
playing better and everyone is gelling. Haws and Collinsworth are becoming a
more dangerous 1-2 punch than Haws and Carlino. Collinsworth has been a big
surprise and he's very crafty similar to Manu Ginobili in the NBA (minus
the free shooting). We'll see how they do on the road this week at Pacific
and at St. Mary's. BYU has been an excellent home team this year but on the
road with the exception of a couple good road and neutral site games has been
dismal. Go Cougars!!
Sorry - 14 of 29 just isn't going to cut it.
Great job on the boards but still woeful from the stripes! Even Haws was
struggling and had an off night I thought. Their energy was awesome but their
shots were just not falling thus the Dons were still hanging around and even led
most of the time in the 2nd half. Glad they pulled out the win though.
It'll be interesting to see how they fare against the Zags who lost last
night to Memphis the next time around. Can't wait to see!Go
Tough game... One the Cougs could have easily lost... In fact, had Tollefson
avoided foul trouble it could have gone the other way. I hate to be
critical but...Collinsworth had a horrible game (even with his 19 points)...
He's always strong on Defense (in fact the best we have) and he rebounds
extremely well for a 6'6" guy but that's where it ends... His
Offensive skills need a ton of work... He has no confidence in his 3 balls or
midrange shots and as a result his defender sags on him and clogs up the middle
and/or double teams Mika... He drives well, but his speed is average and so
it's difficult for him to beat his man... When he does get to the rim he
can usually finish but he also has a lot of TOs (usually about the same amount
as assists)... And his FT shooting is possibly the worst that I've seen
from a college Small Forward or Guard... If no improvement look for "hack a
Kyle" styrategies from opponents. I've heard he has aspirations of
playing at the next level but that won't happen unless he dramatically
improves his "O"...
For the reporter's headline to say the Cougs "...squeak out" a
victory, he misled the readers by failing to report the real significance and
importance of the win to the readers. How sbout: "Cougars tough out key
victory over San Francisco!"
Good win, not a great one. I was impressed with out rebounding and defensive.
Hoping we can beat St. Mary's on the road and Gonzaga at home to wrap up a
NCAA berth.....go cougars
It was great to watch the game on BYUtv. Austin was a beast. Great to see him
come on tonight in defense, rebounds and in scoring. Great crowd,
that came to life and fed the Cougs down the stretch when they needed it. I
wish I could have been there!These Dons are for real. I hope they
do well from here on out (unless we face them in Vegas).Goooo
It's a good thing BYU won the rebounding battle because the shooting was
horrible tonight. 48% on free throws! Yikes! They've got to fix that.
Nice to have a close gut it out kind of win at this point in the season. Hope
the shooting gets better heading into this road trip, especially against St.
It was an ugly win but it was a WIN. Second place. The Cougars will have to
finish strong but the big dance is still in sight. Austin and Mika
were incredible on the boards tonight!
Rebounding (Austin) won this game for BYU. HORRIFIC free throw shooting almost
lost it. Mika was a beast with a double double..Poor 3 pt shooting (except
Carlino) was also a thorn.I think it's time to give Carlino his
starting job back. The team plays better with him on the court and he was 1
assist shy of a double double himself on limited minutes. Halford just
isn't contributing much lately in any category.
Any win at this point in the season is a good win but that was NOT pretty! What
is it going to take to get this team to hit their free throws? The good
rebounding is the only thing that won the game. At least they got it done at
the end. Got to keep it going through the end!
It was definitely the edge on the glass that got BYU this win. They
couldn't buy a shot for most of the game. Yes, SF played some pretty good
D, but even when they were wide open the Cougars couldn't hit anything for
much of the night. Meanwhile, SF seemed to get every roll.Free
throw shooting: just plain ugly. It looked a lot like fatigue to me. Too few
guys have played too many minutes. But what can Rose do? Once again, other
than Carlino, the bench came up empty. Other than Matty, only one other bench
player even recorded a positive statistic. That was Worthington with 3
rebounds. Bench needs to do more.Ugly game. BYU played horribly,
but still managed to win. Breath a sigh of relief and move on to the next one
(and hope they don't have to play SF again in the WCC Tournament.)
FG%: 41.7FT%: 48.3OREB: 20DREB: 27Offensive rebounding saved the game for the Cougs tonight; otherwise a
terrible night for the offense.
Good win. Free throws haunt this team again. 2-8 for Collinsworth, and 5-8 for
Haws. Not impressive from the line, but we take it as a win.